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Old 02/18/13, 05:09 PM
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The problem isn't the heating of the water, it's the purchasing of the water. 15 pounds of wood containing 5 pounds of water has fewer BTUs than 20 pounds of wood.
Id say it was both. You dont want to pay for water and the more water in the wood the more heat needed to get rid of it.

Even when buying wood by the cord its a good Idea to check the moisture. Well protected well seasoned wood will still have about 15% moisture If its out in the open and wet that can rise to 40% pretty quick.
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While the moisture is easily checked.
Really ? How many wood sellers and buyers have a 100 buck moisture meter ? Would you check each piece ?

The reason a cord is a legal requirement to sell wood most places is that it is NOT "easy" to check moisture content. You can check the volume in a stack with a 5 buck tape measure.
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Old 02/18/13, 05:27 PM
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Really ? How many wood sellers and buyers have a 100 buck moisture meter ? Would you check each piece ?

The reason a cord is a legal requirement to sell wood most places is that it is NOT "easy" to check moisture content. You can check the volume in a stack with a 5 buck tape measure.
I suppose the same ones that haul it home in their $40,000 pickups?
I gotta tell you that tape wont tell you a thing about the volume of the wood just the volume of the stack.
I made a living selling wood for a few years and I guarantee you I can build a one cord stack of fire wood then take it apart and build TWO one cord stacks!

And you can pick this one up for $40 delivered.

http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=C...moisture+meter

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I suppose the same ones that haul it home in their $40,000 pickups?
I gotta tell you that tape wont tell you a thing about the volume of the wood just the volume of the stack.
I made a living selling wood for a few years and I guarantee you I can build a one cord stack of fire wood then take it apart and build TWO one cord stacks!

And you can pick this one up for $40 delivered.

http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=C...moisture+meter
Well i got a $40.00 dollar pickup and i an't stupid enough to buy a stack of wood from someone i can throw a cat threw the stack without it catching on something
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I just bought a stacked pile of hardwood firewood that measures about 12 ft. wide by 6 ft high by 20 ft long. Paid $250 for it. Was that a fair price?

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I'd say you stole it for that price. Firewood here goes for as much as $110 for stove length 4x8.
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Where are you in NE? We are in the western part of the NE panhandle and there IS no hardwood in these parts. We burn what we have around here which is mostly cottonwood (oh well...) and elm. We cut some of our own stuff and buy some. It keeps the house warm, so no complaints, but I'd be ecstatic to be burning hardwoods. My niece and hubby live in northern AR and they burn all hardwoods. They get a lot more mileage out of a cord of wood than we do.
We paid $210 recently for a cord plus a PU load, cut, delivered and stacked. I'm with everybody that says you got a steal. Fair price for firewood? - Homesteading Questions
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Old 02/25/13, 08:08 AM
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there IS no hardwood in these parts. We burn what we have around here which is mostly cottonwood (oh well...) and elm. .......I'd be ecstatic to be burning hardwoods.

Um You ARE burning hardwoods...........
Its just soft and light.
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I just bought a car for $1,000. It had 4 wheels. Did I get a good deal?

Just like firewood, the devil is in the details.
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Wish some of you guys were closer to Texas. I have over 300 huge oaks that died last year because of the drought that are already dry and need to come down. Wish have to bulldoze them this summer and push up in a pile to burn if more people don't come cut. Just too much wood here.
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Um You ARE burning hardwoods...........
Its just soft and light.
Well, perhaps it's a technicality (denotation vs connotation...?) Around here "hardwoods" means oak, maple, etc., which isn't found here unless someone has a couple specimen trees planted ornamentally in their yard, you know? Elm is definitely harder so preferred in the shed to cottonwood, which takes the same amt of space (naturally) but burns awfully hot and fast compared to harder stuff. There IS a bit of Russian olive out here, which is harder and burns nice; most of what is left though is what landowners tore out on incentive from the gov several years ago, b/c it had been designated invasive and too water-consumptive.
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Since firewood is only getting more expensive i thought i would mention this..

In England I read of a farmer who was cultivating willow for bio-mass.. he decided to do a test patch of 1 hectare of coppiced willow.. here are his results... http://www.thewillowbank.com/willow.firewood.facts.htm
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Where are you in NE? We are in the western part of the NE panhandle and there IS no hardwood in these parts. We burn what we have around here which is mostly cottonwood (oh well...) and elm. We cut some of our own stuff and buy some. It keeps the house warm, so no complaints, but I'd be ecstatic to be burning hardwoods. My niece and hubby live in northern AR and they burn all hardwoods. They get a lot more mileage out of a cord of wood than we do.
We paid $210 recently for a cord plus a PU load, cut, delivered and stacked. I'm with everybody that says you got a steal. Fair price for firewood? - Homesteading Questions
I'm in the northeast part of the state. Quite a lot of hardwoods here, but mostly on private land.
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I just bought a car for $1,000. It had 4 wheels. Did I get a good deal?

Just like firewood, the devil is in the details.
Bad comparison. I'm not going to drive my firewood, just burn it.
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