Renters - Why are some idiots!?!?!

Al lot of bad renters out there... A lot of bad property owners out there, too.

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I should add that we credited him a full mon'th's rent for the inconvenience we caused him when we completely replaced the roof and reinsulated the house. We also credited him more than enough for the electricity we used during the construction.

There is a point when you need to stop being taken advantage of by the people in your life. My moment is now with this renter.

Yep!!

We're renters and always pay on time, keep our house in better shape than it was when we take occupancy, and follow every rule... a landlord is lucky to have us as tenants. However, every place we've lived, most of our neighbors are grubs who leave the outdoor common areas littered with trash, dog poop, and cigarette buts... They are loud and inconsiderate... and I'd be surprised if their other bills are actually paid on time. TV and internet normally let people get a couple months behind before shutting them off.

We've had a lot of neighbors over the years and I would never rent a property... 95% of the people we've lived near, I would not want living in a home I owned. Even the people who were friendly (2 different families) had kids that wrote on everything with Sharpies. Why don't renting parents hide the Sharpies? The world may never know. O.o

Yeah, you actually do pay it.....it's part of the rent.

Good for you for being a responsible tenant. I had a very few like you when I had rental properties, but the majority were of the type you'd like to beat with a stick.....late on rent, tear up the place, etc.

We've had nothing but good renters the nearly 30 yrs we've rented a previous home. Well, except the lady w/"HUNDREDS" of cats. Left the cat urine smell that was impossible to remove entirely.

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People who have their act together generally manage to buy and begin building equity as early in the game as possible.

The rest become renters.

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At one time we had 15 rentals and have sold all of them except one that a lady rented from us in 1988 and has always paid her rent by the 5th of each month. The rentals helped at tax time but will bite your back side when you sell them

I was trying to stay out of this conversation, but I find this comment very offensive. My husband and I have been married for 30 years and, you know what? LIFE HAPPENS and some of us have to rent rather than buy! We rent, and we ALWAYS leave the properties we lease in much better shape than when we moved in. We pay rent on time (even if nothing else were to be paid, the rent would always be), keep grass cut, make repairs, landscape the property, etc. For you to say that renters don't have their "act together" is insulting.

Sadly, there are many renters who have the feeling "it's not mine, so why do I care." However, that's not us. We treat a place as our own and respect the property and the rules. To lump every renter into one category is ludicrous.

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I wonder how many of you would be happy with your employer paying you late for 3 straight months.
I would offer to work with him and get a written plan as to when they can and will pay. I would be set up to take Visa, MC, tell them to get a loan against any tax refund or from family if they had been there over 3 years. Trade for guns or tools one time only. Tell them to pawn what they need to. Under three years they had better be exceptional renters to offer this. I would also tell them that the eviction process will start with out any action on their part. Enforce any late penalties if they are late, today is the 6th so they are late.

I'm not certain why, but that made me LOL until I snorted!

Renting in this economy is a very good business choice for many many people. I dislike the attitude that renting is to be looked down upon.

That said, we owned rentals in the past and regardless of circumstance, if the rent wasn't paid, they got the 3-day quit letter (eviction). We did a number of evictions on our own in court, no lawyer (and this was in IL!). If you read the relevant law and file the forms yourself you will save the cost of the lawyer and be just as "legal."

Renting a home to someone is a business arrangement. If they don't pay, they have to leave. Matters not a bit where they will go or what their circumstances are, that is not a problem or loss your business is obligated to absorb.

If someone doesn't perform at work, they get fired.
If someone doesn't pay their car note, the repo man comes.
If someone writes bad checks, they get sued, or arrested.
If someone doesn't license their dog, they get a fine.

This is a business contract like any other. If one side defaults, a good, smart business owner will do what they must to protect their interests. Not doing that makes them an un-smart business owner. Landlords do this to make money, not to provide a public service.

I have noticed since 2005, with the change in prevailing attitude about foreclosure (it's not my fault, it's the economy!), people now worry about paying for their housing LAST. When someone can live in their foreclosed house for several years paying nothing, without getting the boot, that changes society's attitude about things. I know many, many people who pay for their lifestyle first - if there is too much month at the end of the money, they have no mental problem with not paying the rent or the mortgage.

A distressing turnaround.

PS - I would not EVER take a credit card for payment of rent. There is nothing stopping them from instantly filing for a chargeback. The charge back process typically takes 90 days (and can take up to 180 days) to filter through the system, and the consumer almost always "wins" and doesn't have to pay. The CC company can see it's for rent - if a charge back is filed, the CC company looks at it and says "Well, they are trying to get out of paying, do WE want to be left holding the bag, or should we punt the loss back to the LANDLORD..." Easy decision for the CC company, and completely legal.

Renters are like any othe group you care to name, there are some idiots in it. There may be a higher proportion of idiots or unresponsible people in the group "renters" than in the general population because you are more likely to be a renter if you are an idiot or unresponsible person.

Your renter has shown himself to be either an unresponsible person or someone that is having job problems. You have to decide if you are a social worker or a landlord.

I would evict them before you get in any deeper. There is a thread on Families by CommonTator that you should read. Do hire a lawyer to evict the tenant. Ask questions and learn how to do it and what's leagle. You can do it yourself the next time. In the mean time this is the advice I gave to CT.

Give her notice that you are going to inspect the apartment. I think you said 24 hour notice. Go in and take pictures to document the condition of the apartment on that date.

Give her notice in writing, with witnesses, that she has 61 days to vacate the apartment. In MN you have to give 31 days notice. The extra day is so there can be no argument that the notice wasn't long enough.

Do not give any reason why she is being evicted. You are not required to and if there is no reason given, she can not argue that the reason is false.

At the same time you give her the notice to vacate, inform her that if there is any damage to the property, other than normal wear and tear, and you will prosecute her in criminal court. Here it's called criminal damage to property. When convicted she will have a criminal rercord that will follow her through the rest of her life.

If she doesn't pay rent for the rest of her stay you inform her that you will file for the rent in small claims court. When you win a judjement against her she will be unable to obtain a loan for a car or a mortage on a house until the judgement has been satisfied.

OK, I am only going to say this once. God made good folks and God made not so good folks. Some were smart others not so much. God did not make rentors- man made those and we trained them to be just the way we are. If we dont like it we must untrain them or stop being land lords. The end

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We have a tenant whose been about a month behind for almost a year. She keps saying next month it wll be on time. In December her excuse was she couldn't pay on time because she needed the money for Christmas.

If you can't pay the rent, there IS no money for Christmas.

Boy neither can I as I have rented this place for 14 years and not once have I been late. I even rented a house once for college girls, they even paid on time.
Now if things got real bad for some unknown reason my landlord has a working farm I would go to him and say I am a little short can you find something for me to do to 'work it off", something like that.
And for 10 years while in AZ I lived on a horse boarding stable and DID WORK off my rent for all those years. Cool eh?
But I was really "living in" a portion of the barn and had to share my bathroom with the folks that boarded their horses. But after a time I did "build in" a shower in my area that I lived in, but still had to share the toilet.
So it really would not have been to expensive rent, but then again we ARE talking about Tempe, AZ. LOL

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My Ex and I rented a house from one of her family friends... One morning about 5:30 in the morning as I'm getting ready for work there's a knock on the door.

It's the Sherrif for a notice of foreclosure... We had just sent the owners a check 4 days before... As soon as the bank opened that morning we placed a stop payment on the check and started packing that night after work... We were out in a week and a half. The home was sold a couple months later by the bank...

Yeah.. it's not always renters that are the problem...

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Yep. We had to leave our last home because the owner was losing it to foreclosure, and we have to leave this one because the owner decided to put it on the market this spring, even though she assured us it was going to be "long-term" when we signed the lease in October 2011. Why can't people just be honest?

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