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Old 01/28/13, 09:16 PM
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The other posts above have already cleared that up.
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Old 01/28/13, 09:34 PM
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but humans have eaten wheat for thousands of years. The ancient egyptians raised a mighty empire up from wheat and other cereal grains. where those people ill from wheat back then?

I am not challanging you all. just discussing.

Thousands of years ago people didn't live as long as we do & if they didn't feel very good they most likely never related it to diet.
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I have had worsening joint pain in the last few years with hips hurting at night and knees feeling like they took 10 minutes to warm up if I had been sitting..
I would get in the hottub twice a day just to get relief.

My Dr tested me for allergies because I could tell that the joint pain came & went some ..The allergy tests were negative but he asked me to do a
2 to 3 week trial of no wheat. He said some people have intolerance to wheat
gluten that is different than celiac.

I eliminated wheat and knew within 3 to 4 days that I felt better than I had in years. Now months later my joint pain is all gone, and even my brain feels clearer...I am now exercising because I have the energy & my joints feel so much better.. I have found that I can get away with a wheat serving occasionally, but that is all.

I think its just certain people that don't do well with the wheat, but if you have joint pain I would give it a try for 2 to 3 weeks.. You will know if it
makes a difference... I can bounce up the stairs now like I did when I was
in my 20s, before I walked up the stairs like an 80 year old person.
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Old 01/29/13, 11:24 AM
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I read this book last night. It makes complete sense to me. I already eat low carbs, so barely ever have wheat unless I go off it (which I have been known to do). But when I do, I feel horrible.

Many people do not want to stop eating sugar, processed foods or wheat, until they face a serious health issue. Then they will try it. So why not do it before you get that far? Don't put this way of eating down, unless you have tried it.

I know it appears to many homesteaders, that it goes against what we like to do.........bake bread, and make sweet jams and jellies to put on it. We get really excited about buying wheat berries and grinding our own flour. But at what cost? Our health? Our families' health? Are we all fit and healthy because we live this lifestyle? If not, why? If we are doing all this physical work and growing and making our own food, shouldn't we be in top physical condition? I no longer buy or store those types of foods. Now my food is better tasting and more satisfying. I am working on my health issues, and I have a more positive attitude, because I feel so much better.
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This wheat belly diet makes sense and the scientific explanation makes sense, the problem is many other diets and the science make sense.
Medical studies will show cutting red meat consumption improves health.
atkins shows cutting out carbs improves health.

Who and what research do you believe? I don't know.

My mantra All things in moderation. If your grandmother would not recognize an ingredient as food don't eat it. Get active, move.
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I would be interested in seeing some of those sourdough recipes. I have been considering growing some grains. I am not sure if I can find seed for emmer or einkorn.

I didnt mean to be contradictory. Just trying to understand. I wasnt sure if the heirloom variesties were still considered "modern."
I've found emmer and blue tinge ethopian wheat seeds available at Sustainable Seed, einkorn seed at Bountiful Garden, and both at Salt Spring Seed. No matter what a company calls the seed, just make sure it's not Triticum aestivum (which is modern common wheat).

Here's the recipe I use for my sourdough rye, I just substitute "bread flour" with fresh milled emmer or durum and let the final ferment go for 24 hours instead of only 12-14. It comes out a bit denser than theirs, but it's not a doorstop.

Here's the recipe I use for sourdough garlic bread, again I substitute emmer or durum for the bread flour and double the final fermentation. This one also does really well with amaranth and quinoa flours, either substituting the barley flour or a portion of the wheat flour.

Here's the recipe I started from for low gluten bagels. I substitute durum for the tapioca flour or corn starch, and use flax seed instead of the xantham gum as a binder. I normally add about 1/2 cup more water, so the dough is sticky, and let this ferment overnight.

Here's the recipe for my favorite low/no gluten flatbread. I've found you can subsitute nearly any grain of equal proportion into this recipe and it's still delicious.
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but humans have eaten wheat for thousands of years
And in the range of the millions of years that people have existed, the few thousand that we've eaten wheat are a mere blip on the radar...
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Old 01/29/13, 02:21 PM
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but humans have eaten wheat for thousands of years. The ancient Egyptians raised a mighty empire up from wheat and other cereal grains. where those people ill from wheat back then?

I am not challenging you all. just discussing.
Yes, at least some of them were. Celiac disease has always existed. There is a description that exists from ancient Rome from a physician named Aretaeus. He refers to a chronic diarrhea condition consisting of undigested food, lasting an extended period, and a debilitation of the whole body.

Who knows how much illness can be attributed to general gluten intolerance?

I'm not sure what I think about losing weight by being gluten free. If one isn't eating bread with butter, sandwiches with mayonnaise, cakes, cookies, pies, noodles, etc., then caloric intake is reduced. Replacing the grain starch with salad greens greatly lowers calories, resulting in weight loss. Sugar intake is probably reduced also, as it is in almost all baked goods, further reducing calories.
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We are all different. I am quite allergic to celery. Someone without a food intolerance or allergy just cannot understand.

Who ever heard of someone from Maine being allergic to white potatoes and herring? People roll their eyes.

Eat what works for you. I will take a placebo if it works...
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Old 01/29/13, 03:20 PM
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Thank you plicketycat! Got anymore gluten free recipes we should know about?
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Flawed logic.....sorry.

I'm replacing bread with bacon, sausage, and more steak. LOL You aren't lowering your calorie intake necessarily.

More recipes:
http://primalkitchen.blogspot.com/p/recipes-index.html

Your *brain* functions on good fats, not carbs.
http://www.brainawakening.ca/blog/bi...ain-needs-fats
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Old 01/29/13, 09:22 PM
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*sigh* So, in ya'lls opinion, is taking an EFA supplement good enough? I don't like fish. Not for lack of trying. My boyfriend is Asian. I try fish every time he makes/orders it. Just can't do it unless it's in sushi....
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What if you love things like pizza, macaroni and cheese, lasagne , spaghetti, etc? And homemade bread , I think it would be hard to give up wheat altogether

I have no idea what might be OK to eat on the Wheat Belly diet, but we are gluten free in my house and that means no wheat.

Pizza I make with the crust made from french fries or tater tots. It's delicious. I just bought a box of gluten free pizza crust and I will make that and see if we like it. If so, I will work to copycat the recipe (it's expensive)

Mac and Cheese, use gluten free pasta.

Lasagna, use gluten free lasagna sheets or else layer it with sliced potatoes instead of noodles.

Bread is a tough one. I can make gluten free rolls that are good but so far, no bread. The bread is not all that wonderful for sandwiches as it starts to dissolve the second it gets wet.

Spaghetti: your favorite sauce over oriental rice noodles.

Shygal, if you can't give up those things then maybe you have an addiction issue with wheat.
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You don't HAVE to eat fish.
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Made the cauliflower crust pizza last night and it was terrific! Thank you Alice, for posting the recipe.
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but humans have eaten wheat for thousands of years. The ancient egyptians raised a mighty empire up from wheat and other cereal grains. where those people ill from wheat back then?

I am not challanging you all. just discussing.
Dr. Michael Eades, Protein Power

The ancient Egyptians consumed a diet that would be considered optimal by many people today. Both wealthy and poor Egyptians consumed primarily bread and a type of cloudy, almost gruel-like beer. To these staples were added a variety of vegetables (mainly onions), and a small selection of game, fish and meat. The bread was made from coarse ground, whole grain emmer wheat, a primitive, high-protein wheat. Sugar didn’t come on the scene until about 1000 AD, so the Egyptians used honey sparingly (it was expensive) as a sweetener along with figs. In short, these people consumed a diet the vast majority of modern nutritionists would prescribe to people to prevent obesity, heart disease, high blood pressure and the rest of the diseases associated with the Western diet.

But, as their mummified remains and their contemporary artwork demonstrate, the ancient Egyptians were often fat and were riddled with heart disease, dental caries, bad periodontal disease and no doubt diabetes and hypertension. Many people have argued that since only the wealthy were mummified, the mummy data applies only to them, and since the wealthy ate more red meat, the rates of obesity, heart disease and the other disorders common to them didn’t apply to the rest of the population. Even the common man, however, was often portrayed as obese in Egyptian artwork, and despite greater consumption of meat, the main staple of even the wealthy was bread and beer. And it didn’t do them a lot of good.


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Dr. Greg Thomas, a cardiologist states "Atherosclerosis is endemic to humans in civilization," he said. It's "been around since before the time of Moses. It's part of being human." Or at least for wheat eating humans.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2009..._hardened.html
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I was diagnosed with diabetes a month ago. Last Monday I started the Paleo diet, which is quite similar to the wheat belly diet. One exception I have is dairy. Dairy is forbidden in most paleo plans but I believe the nutrition profile of milk is fairly in line with paleo. Before I started paleo my blood sugar was stuck in the 220 to 280 range (80 to 110 is considered optimal). In the last few days my blood sugar has dropped like a rock. Tonight I am at 113! I'm still adapting. I usually get a little crash at 11:00 pm when I start work so I have a piece of string cheese and a clementine and it straightens me out.
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I was diagnosed with diabetes a month ago. Last Monday I started the Paleo diet, which is quite similar to the wheat belly diet. One exception I have is dairy. Dairy is forbidden in most paleo plans but I believe the nutrition profile of milk is fairly in line with paleo. Before I started paleo my blood sugar was stuck in the 220 to 280 range (80 to 110 is considered optimal). In the last few days my blood sugar has dropped like a rock. Tonight I am at 113! I'm still adapting. I usually get a little crash at 11:00 pm when I start work so I have a piece of string cheese and a clementine and it straightens me out.
There are some subtle differences, but Primal and Paleo are closely related. With Primal, milk products are OK but they should be raw milk. Just something for you to consider.

A brief overview of the differences. I am practicing Primal not Paleo but consider them cousins.

Regardless, congradulations on the changes. My "crash snack" is a banana with almond butter.
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A much better overview of the differences
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