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01/21/13, 07:58 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Arkansas
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I always liked Ponca City, nice area and friendly folks. They are big enough to have most all your services.
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01/21/13, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cherokee Nation, Oklahoma
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We do have killer summers, and the worst part is the drought, it seems to just go on and on. You really should check the rainfall in the Ponca area, they are way deficient. I love my state, but, these last couple of years have been rough. I have a live creek on my place but it floods in the spring then dries up in the summer. I hire a dozer to clean out the bed so that I can irragate to keep my pasture alive. All our long range forcast say the drought isn't over  Everyone around here has sold their cattle because they can't get any hay for the winter. I have Dexters, and havn't added to my herd for two years, it's all I can do to feed what I have.
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01/21/13, 08:56 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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I was under the understanding that a LIVE creek was one that NEVER dried up.
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01/21/13, 09:00 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Arkansas
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Heck the Mississippi is trying to dry up this year.
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01/21/13, 10:37 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Live in Tennessee but born and raised and forever an Okie!
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We are from NE okla. Around the Westville area. We are in Tennessee now and the "plan" is to move back when wife retires in two-three years! I am ready now! I keep telling her that by the time she decides to retire we won't be physically able to move back and do anyting with our 6 acres back there. She just really doesn't want to move back and away from her daughter,but I know the feeling because my daughter still lives back there!!We recently had to move to be closer to her job and put our house up for sale. Hopefully if and when it ever sells she will reconcider and try and find work out there that will hold her till she retires. Iam already retired on disability.Its really putting a strain on us now,trying to keep up two homes(one for sale,one we are renting)I am so homesick It hurts ! But I'm glad to see there are so many on HT that are from back there! I didn't realize there were so many Okies on here! You all hold the place down so it doesn't blow away till I get there!lol
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01/21/13, 11:19 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by calliemoonbeam
I guess I'll be the lone dissenter here, lol. I absolutely hate Oklahoma, as all the long-time posters already know. Right now I live about 40 miles southwest of Tulsa, but lived many years in Tulsa, and a few northward between Owasso and Collinsville, which I will admit was better but also much more expensive.
We really only have TWO seasons, a way too-hot and steamy summer and a way too cold and icy winter...with about a week each of spring and fall, if we're lucky. We have weeks and weeks on end of 100+ temps (some up to 120) with high humidity usually, although right now we're headed into our third year of drought, which is predicted to stay the same and/or worsen and to last at least 10 years. Gardens have been a total loss for the past two years.
We get very little snow, but many ice storms which take down massive trees like matchsticks and power lines for weeks at a time almost every winter. We've also just had almost 10 days of temps at night below 20, and this has been a very mild winter for us.
Speaking of not liking wind...have you ever heard the song "Oklahoma" where the "winds come sweeping down the plain"? We have plenty of wind year round, but especially in spring, which brings along with it roaring, fast-moving prairie grass fires that burn thousands of acres almost every summer. Tornadoes are also frequent and sometimes catastrophic, and no you don't always have warning, especially rurally. Of course, living with them all my life, I've learned what to watch for and how to read the signs, but still no picnic, although I'd pefer them to earthquakes, which we've also been having for the past few years. A small one a little over a year ago was enough to damage buildings, including my house 35 miles from the epicenter.
Land is really cheap here, I'll give you that, but as someone else said you've really got to pay attention to what you're getting. It ranges from nothing but sand to huge rocks to thick clay that won't grow anything until you spend a fortune amending it or building raised beds, especially south and west of Tulsa. East and north are better, until you get into the foothills area. There are a lot of trees and greenery, as well as a lot of lakes (they say we have more shoreline than the East and Gulf coasts combined), but with that comes a lot of bugs and snakes and the never-ending maintenance to keep all that greenery in check.
The crime rate is really bad in Tulsa with lots of gangs and drugs. Even rurally there are lots of meth labs, thefts and break-ins, but I guess those are common pretty much anywhere any more. And I don't know where all these open, friendly people are. I've found people here to be very closed-minded, judgmental and standoffish, especially on trying to move into a small community where everyone has known everyone forever, unless of course they want something from you, lol.
So, I just thought I should point out that everything is not as rosy as some might paint it, although I do readily admit I hate Oklahoma and have health problems that make living here extremely miserable. In fact, I'm dreaming, scheming and praying to find a way to move out of here within the next year or so.
Out of the four states you mentioned, I'd probably go with Missouri. It's a very pretty state with a lot of good qualities (though still too hot and humid to suit me personally, lol). Texas is even worse temp and drought-wise than Oklahoma, and Kansas has even more wind, possibly more tornadoes (though it's pretty close I think) and more big snow storms.
Good luck with your decision! There will be ups and downs to any place and I'm sure some will think I'm too negative, but personally I want to know ALL the facts about a place I'm planning to uproot my entire life for, not just the good stuff. 
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I'm with Callie, I've been here most of my life but have traveled enough with former jobs that I HATE Oklahoma. The weather regularly goes from 40 during the night to 85 in the day. (and that's in January). Then, for the last 3 years we've been in a record setting drought. Some parts of the state had over 60 days last summer with 100+ temps. Then, when you factor in the red clay, the dopeheads, the methlabs, ticks, chiggers, copperheads, and did I mention red clay!!!!
If my wife didn't have family members to take care of and tie her down here I would move in a heartbeat!!!
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01/22/13, 11:10 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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Originally Posted by francismilker
I'm with Callie, I've been here most of my life but have traveled enough with former jobs that I HATE Oklahoma. The weather regularly goes from 40 during the night to 85 in the day. (and that's in January). Then, for the last 3 years we've been in a record setting drought. Some parts of the state had over 60 days last summer with 100+ temps. Then, when you factor in the red clay, the dopeheads, the methlabs, ticks, chiggers, copperheads, and did I mention red clay!!!!
If my wife didn't have family members to take care of and tie her down here I would move in a heartbeat!!!
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01/22/13, 12:01 PM
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Ive known there were around/over 2 doz okies in here for several years. Ive tried to get an Okie get together around 3 times with no success.
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01/22/13, 06:26 PM
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Udderly Happy!
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Oklahoma
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Where?
I would make my choice from one of the following:
NW Missouri, Alaska, Northern Montana, Southern Illinois, or Eastern Nebraska.
My ONLY reason for these places are from excellent experience while at these places for extended amounts of time while traveling for work.
I liked the weather they happened to be having while there for months at a time. However, I'm not silly enough to not take into account that they too have bad years without rain and extreme temps. I also know that grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.
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01/22/13, 07:15 PM
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I was born ion St Joe, and lived there a time or 2. Was raised in the nown next to it in Kansas, or 14 miles from it. Hated the winters. Hate the summers here, But like them more than the winters there.
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01/22/13, 08:31 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Indiana
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Vanet: it sounds like you're really looking for a place in Indiana
Temps are more moderate - although not quite as much so as NC, but we aren't as far east. Our growing season is long enough to get in a second planting of green beans and beets, etc.
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01/22/13, 10:17 PM
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Buck in Supulpa, I live on Slick Rd
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01/23/13, 12:18 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by FarmboyBill
Ive known there were around/over 2 doz okies in here for several years. Ive tried to get an Okie get together around 3 times with no success.
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Go for it! I would participate. We should at least keep up with an Okie check in thread. I live 55 miles south of Tulsa near Henryetta but work in Okmulgee, which is just 30 miles south of Tulsa. I work at the conservation district and am willing to help whomever I can with farming, ranching, land and conservation related questions.
Just for the record: I LOVE Oklahoma! I have lived all over and even over seas but I have never regretted returning to this area.
Hot? Heck yeah. But it gets hot all through the south. I prefer a hot summer over a cccold winter. But we get all 4 seasons here, and I like that.
Nice people. OMG! the nicest people in the world live here. Oh yes, there are some grouches. Just smile at them! (They will wonder what you are up to!)
Crime? is bad everywhere. Anytime you get a large population, you are going to have the criminal element.
I could go on.
Belle
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01/23/13, 01:48 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by francismilker
Where?
I would make my choice from one of the following:
NW Missouri, Alaska, Northern Montana, Southern Illinois, or Eastern Nebraska.
My ONLY reason for these places are from excellent experience while at these places for extended amounts of time while traveling for work.
I liked the weather they happened to be having while there for months at a time. However, I'm not silly enough to not take into account that they too have bad years without rain and extreme temps. I also know that grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.
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I guess you didnt read the initial post. We are looking for some place that DOESNT have extreme winter temps. Every place you listed, (except maybe SI) has temps way below 0 for extended periods of time. Thanks though.
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01/23/13, 04:40 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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I think you asked FM where HE would move to givin the chance, I dont think he thought that that would be necessarily where he would recommend you move to.
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01/23/13, 06:16 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Oklahoma
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Another vote for OK. I like it a lot. No, I don't like the prolonged summer heatwaves or droughts. No, I don't really like the humidity either. But the people are very friendly in my experience.
I have often managed to garden from March till the end of October/early November. I regularly manage to put up enough vegetables from my garden to last us through winter and at least help out if we have a bad summer and I am not a good gardener.
I am currently just north of Muskogee and will at some point get moved to my new place west of Bristow.
Mary
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01/23/13, 07:51 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Moving from NM to TX, & back to NM.
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I think you should check out Silver City, NM.
http://www.silvercity.org/weather.shtml
I considered moving there, but ended up in the mountains instead.
No tornados! or ticks or chiggers.
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01/23/13, 09:12 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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CW U between Bristow and Milfay?
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01/24/13, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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We only live about 120 miles from silver city. No work, high crime, less than 10 in rainfall, very hot in summer. They have most of the problems we have here in N. AZ as well as heat and crime. Not at all what we are looking for, but thanks for the suggestion.
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01/24/13, 12:50 PM
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"Slick"
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Moving from NM to TX, & back to NM.
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Well, OK & KS are always on average going to be hotter than Silver City in the summer. And with the humidity, it will be even more uncomfortable.
Now on precip, yes OK/KS/MO are certainly going to be better than anywhere in NM or AZ.
About crime, I did not realize SC was high crime.
Anyway, it sounds like a preference for something other than the high desert type country is what it really matters.
In that case, you ought to consider the TX hill country. Kerrville, Fredericksburg, Mason, Llano etc. They do get hot, but are marginally drier/cooler than most of central TX & have good rain. [except now during the drought]. Plus they don't get the cold weather that OK/KS/MO get.
Just be aware of Cedar Fever.! Allergens are high.
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