gun posing question.

and btw, I carry a 9mm Ruger... Always... I wouldn't honestly attempt to shoot at anyone with anything less. I'd rather cower and hide or even try jumping through the freezer section if it wasn't on me

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If I choose to go n actively fight crime I'd first need to get cape mask an some tights. Also I'd get a REAL handgun that would fit on my utility belt with my other gadgets. I'd have a cool nickname like "pellet gun vigalante". There's lots of what if senerios u can use an prepare for. I do know that when I plan a job out to a t that it never goes that way. I don't think subduing three armed villains or henchman with a pellet gun is a likely senerio for a average citizen. Good luck with the crime fighting

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I claim the last post that offended u

And here I thought that being prepared and being proactive meant carrying something that will do the job.

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This is the government the Founding Fathers warned us about.....

...............What I don't understand is , WHY , don't you simply take the class and obtain your CCLicense , buy a 9mm auto and beable too actually protect yourself instead of messing around with BB guns ? What you're doing makes Absolutely NO sense to me at all ! , fordy

I don't know why but this post reminds me of the Chinese stars we bought as kids.

Really if someone nailed you with one of these would you run in Ninja fear for your life or charge them down like Wind in Hair and beat the mess out of them and make a really cool X-ray for a doctor showing a star up someone's rear end.

Smartes thing i have heard not putting the hacksaw to that shotgun .Any sawing on it can get you 10 in the pen .

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Check it Out O added another Plank With O care
http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist...to-Planks.html

could try this Bill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=262mQJOi94U

guy up the line from us.

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"Don't raise your voice, improve your argument."

cruachan

Carrying a concealed pellet gun in your car can get you in just as much trouble as carrying a real gun.. If you're gonna break the law, might as well do it right and get a real gun.... Why not just be legal about it and get a CC permit at the same time..

What if questions really are kinda pointless...

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Kein Mitleid für die Mehrheit

Fordy asked why not take the course and get the carry permit, THEN get the open carry, THEN buy a 9M pistol.

Im 65. I live on $1350 a month. By the last week im stone broke. I DONT HAVE THE MONEY TO TAKE THE COURSE, GET THE CARRY LICENSE AND THEN BUY A 9M PISTOL.. at 65, iM NOT LIKELY TO EVER BE IN A CONFRONTATION WITH ANYBODY. I have handled and quick drawed my Colt Navy for over 40yrs. To what use has it ever done me. NONE. IF I could go out every Fri night and dance the night away, and then do it again Sat also for over 20yrs, and not get into trouble, I doubt if im going to get in any now,

When I got into the SCA, I already had the Navy. I heard many stories of fighters who had to carry their weapons and armour in duffle bags and walk to catch a bus, or stand at a store waiting to be picked up, or whatever, and way over a doz cases where these guys pulled their swords or rattan and fought off people with knives, if not guns. Things they ---uld have NEVER done if they hadnt spent the day learning and practicing an hounerable and militant lifestyle. They/I ;ived by what weas called, The Old Code

............Fair enough , thanks for taking the time to respond ! , fordy

THE OLD CODE

My Life is filled with valour
My Heart knows only virtue
My strength upholds the weak
My blade defends the helpless
my word speaks ever truth
My WRATH undoes the wicked

A tough code to live by for 33yrs To tough to try to hide in the rest room behind a stool somebody is useing. OR worm my way past the glass doors in the food and drink wall.

To tell the absolute truth. IF I WAS in that situation and had nothing but a homemade knife that my SIL made for me which I do carry in those places at those times of night. I would find any can or bottle that could be thrown, and work myself up towards the front. I wouldnt/couldnt do anything, But id have to see if I could TRY to do anything.
Doing anything, is doing something. Doing nothing, is just that.
As for getting shot/killed. Hey, im 65. My best/worst years are behind me. Ive read my script. I know how it ends. Ive watched a few news shows about the way V Hospitals take care of their vets here in Okla, My kids are grown, And when my grandkids get into their 30s, they wont know, NOR want to know a thing about me OR my life. NOR I theres.
Id much rather my kids remembered me tryi ng to be a hero, Than remember me with altzhimers, which im likely prone to, my mom and her 3 sistersd, my aunts all dying from it, along with their mom, my grandmother

Bill, when you got grey hair you got a big "V" for "victim" engraved on your forehead.

That aside...you want a 9mm handgun? I'll GIVE you one. Keep me from having to buy flowers for your funeral.

Mon

Never, ever, under any circumstances, leave the house, without serious equalizers.... God created man, Samuel Colt made them equal.

I have turned around and went back to the house, the few times that I've left home without at least a hog leg. Picked it up, turned around, and went about my business...

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Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. Seneca
Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival. W. Edwards Deming

I have not carried in 33yrs. They got dusty in the pk so I quit carrying them.

NO I dont want a pistol.

Up till I turned 60, I felt I could impose my will on anybody I wanted to. One way or the other. Not that I would ever do that, I just had the thought that either with ax handles or anything else OR a gun I could do anything I wanted to. If I had them uncocked, I felt like I was equal to anybody else. Drawing them cocked, Which I learned to do as Ive always had trouble cocking a colt in quick draw, the Rem is easier, but heavier. Drawing cocked I felt like I was superior to anybody else. Now that im 65, I feel like I could still stop anybody from imposing their will onto me. At 70, I imagine people will kick me around about any ole way they want LOL.

thats a fine code to live by! Just remember while your acting the hero you are taking responsibility for lives not your own by that I mean th clerk and any other customers, your scenario's seem to put them in danger.

Right there is justification for firing as many pellets as possible into the perpetrator. I've always felt that if one witnesses a wrongdoing and does nothing about it, he's as guilty as the wrongdoer. First hit anywhere would cause him to turn and face the shooter and expose the face and eyes. Second shot should go for an eye. Automatic reaction to an eye injury is to close and shield both of them. Allows ample time to reach for something to crack the perps skull even it's only the pistol. Will admit that I'd prefer to have my Gamo 1000 fps rifle in hand if having to rely on one shot. Half that will still give decent penetration into unprotected flesh with a hunting pellet. I figure that I'd go that route instead of being killed with my hands in my pocket.

Martin

ok bill are you writing a story and wanted some input?

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This guy was shot point blank, in the face, without a mask on, and wasn't even hurt.

http://lutz.patch.com/articles/hate-...oting-2fa91623

When the thugs entered the QT the people were in danger.

#1 Guy at the register is boosted on drugs. got the shakes, shakes his gun once too oftern. Has to kill the rest
#2 Somebody trys to run out of the other door that wasnt guarded. Thug back shoots him.
#3 A patron thinks theres just the one and thinks he has an advantage, and picks something off the shelf and gets killed.

There was a chicken place. A guy who had worked there but got fired told some thugs about the money there, the layout, ect. 4 of them went and hit the place. The people in recognized the guy who used to work there. When they got the money, they put them in the freezer, and on there knees, and shot them all.

Doing nothing can get someone killed just as quick, if not quicker than doing something.

I dont think I could live with myself, IF I were in the situation I described and hid in a back corner, while they killed every few that might be in there at 1 in the morning, till they ran into me with 2 guns and decided it wasnt worth any of them dying for and left.

Ive found out, for a LONG time, that a thug of any calabre will only fight back if they see they have the advantage. Make it even or better on your side, in there minds, and there gone.

Bill, looks like if you walked into such a situation with just about anyone else on this thread, they'd quickly forget that they ever knew you. Their main concern would be that nobody would recognize them when they ran. Seems that there's been enough mention how those things aren't weapons. The facts do seem to say otherwise.

www.bing.com/search?q=deaths+by+pellet+guns&src=IE-SearchBox&FORM=IE&SRC

Martin