Monsanto and my opinions/impressions

PrettyPaisley · #81 01/01/13, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

America is the "Bread Basket" of the World. And it is done this through companies like Monsanto, and many others that are developing crops and allowing farmers to grow more on every acre they plant. Period!

And as more countries are learning about GMOs they are beginning to refuse our bread

billooo2 · #82 01/01/13, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

America is the "Bread Basket" of the World. And it is done this through companies like Monsanto, and many others that are developing crops and allowing farmers to grow more on every acre they plant. Period!

Are you saying that safety is of no concern????

PrettyPaisley · #83 01/01/13, 12:31 PM

Someone seems to think safety should be of concern. The gov't is under the microscope for "breach of ethics" with the GMO salmon.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentin...salmon-fiasco/

rambler · #84 01/02/13, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PrettyPaisley

Someone seems to think safety should be of concern. The gov't is under the microscope for "breach of ethics" with the GMO salmon.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentin...salmon-fiasco/

Just curious if you actually read your link?

I mostly read that the release of the ok to go ahead with the salmon was held up for 7 months or more for political only reasons, not for any scientific reasons nor for questioning and of the data?

I read the article to say the salmon should be released quicker, only politicians from Alaska trying to preserve Alaskan fishing jobs are against it - politics, not a good scientific reason?

I stated earlier, I'm much more on the fence on this fish issue than I am on the crops we grow. I am concerned about such a fish breeding with natives and altering a native fish.

It appears they have been studying these fish for 17 years now, would be close to 20 years before they are allowed, if at all.

Paul

Judy in IN · #85 01/03/13, 05:32 PM

Bill, did you see this? It was down in the pig forum, but it's about cows too.. Shoot, it's about US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtiWG03FbOc

haypoint · #86 01/03/13, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Judy in IN

Bill, did you see this? It was down in the pig forum, but it's about cows too.. Shoot, it's about US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtiWG03FbOc

Yes, it is on youtube, so it must be factual.

Judy in IN · #87 01/03/13, 06:23 PM

Haypoint, I feel sorry for you, but the video was for Bill.

billooo2 · #88 01/03/13, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Judy in IN

Bill, did you see this? It was down in the pig forum, but it's about cows too.. Shoot, it's about US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtiWG03FbOc

I don't have time to watch the entire video right now....

A few months ago I heard someone from Monsanto being interviewed about the pig issue in Europe.

He was trying to argue that these genetics had been stolen from Monanto, and that Monsanto is the 'injured party' in this situation.

He was also saying that Monsanto believed that they could lay claim to 75% of the pigs in Europe!!!! Yes, he was saying that approx. 75% of the pigs should actually belong to Monsanto...

menagerie momma · #89 01/03/13, 06:53 PM

You know, I haven't seen on any of these threads so far where someone has just flat out said, in the words of Yukon Cornelius: "You eat what you like, aand I'll eat what I like!!! AAYAAARGH!" Would some Monsanto fan please explain to me, in plain English, just *why* it is so bad to LABEL the darn food? Why should we not be given a choice? Is it so frightening or upsetting to think that given the choice, people would choose non-GMO over GMO based foodstuffs? I can tell you I would certainly choose non-GMO and I would pay. Cheap food is not enough of an enticement.

Jessie

J.T.M. · #90 01/03/13, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Judy in IN

Bill, did you see this? It was down in the pig forum, but it's about cows too.. Shoot, it's about US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtiWG03FbOc

That video creeps me out ...
~ shudder ~

rambler · #91 01/03/13, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by menagerie momma

You know, I haven't seen on any of these threads so far where someone has just flat out said, in the words of Yukon Cornelius: "You eat what you like, aand I'll eat what I like!!! AAYAAARGH!" Would some Monsanto fan please explain to me, in plain English, just *why* it is so bad to LABEL the darn food? Why should we not be given a choice? Is it so frightening or upsetting to think that given the choice, people would choose non-GMO over GMO based foodstuffs? I can tell you I would certainly choose non-GMO and I would pay. Cheap food is not enough of an enticement.

Jessie

I agree and support that you have that choice, and am glad that we all do have those choices available to us.

Food is already labeled, we have food which is inspected and approved by the USA in one way or another, then we have organic labeled food which has govt and private certifictions and programs, and then there are private orginizations that offer various levels of certification for organic, or gmo-free labeling.

I'm glad you & I have these options available to us. As more people demand one or the other level of these food types, they will appear in stores near you and me.

One of the 3 grociery stores in town has a organic/natural section. It's perhaps 1/50th of the floor space of the store, but it has been there for several years now and offers people choices, it must sell enough to continue that size of floor space.

Small college town down the road a ways has a coop food store, they just expanded into a bigger space, offer all sorts of organic and natural foods. They make a terrific southwest turkey sandwitch, I stop there every time I need to go tot he courthouse!

Very good we have these choices.

Paul

haypoint · #92 01/03/13, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Judy in IN

Haypoint, I feel sorry for you, but the video was for Bill.

Then send him a PM.

arabian knight · #93 01/03/13, 07:21 PM

Talk about tin foil heaven now there is one, and of course slamming a huge company again, nothing but laughter.

haypoint · #94 01/03/13, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by menagerie momma

You know, I haven't seen on any of these threads so far where someone has just flat out said, in the words of Yukon Cornelius: "You eat what you like, aand I'll eat what I like!!! AAYAAARGH!" Would some Monsanto fan please explain to me, in plain English, just *why* it is so bad to LABEL the darn food? Why should we not be given a choice? Is it so frightening or upsetting to think that given the choice, people would choose non-GMO over GMO based foodstuffs? I can tell you I would certainly choose non-GMO and I would pay. Cheap food is not enough of an enticement.

Jessie

While Rambler did a great job of explaining your non-GMO choices, I’d like to explain a bit.
The crops that are grown that are both GMO and non-GMO are mostly corn and soybeans. They are grown in giant fields, harvested by giant combines and transported in semi-trucks to be stored in huge grain storage bins. From there they often go into semi-truck and then rail road hoppers. They will go into storage bins at the place where the raw product is processed into food then packaged.
Keeping GMO and non-GMO separate would require a vacuuming of the combine at each separation from a GMO field and a non-GMO field, sweeping out each semi load, separate grain bins, separate railroad hopper cars, and separate semi-trailers. The processing places would need separate bins for GMO and non-GMO. Then there is the paper trail that would need to be kept along each step of the transportation.
This would add costs to every product made with either GMO or non-GMO. Most people don’t care and they certainly don’t want to pay extra for it.
The segment that do care can be satisfied by simply buying Organic.
It is interesting that people will pay extra for Organic Oatmeal, when I’ve never heard of oat crops being sprayed with anything.
So, in short, labeling one safe product from another safe product adds a cost to both products that the public isn’t willing to pay.

haypoint · #95 01/03/13, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sidepasser

While people here criticize those who do comment on a controversial post, why read it? Why not just skip it?

I am not interested in cows, but there is a post about cows here - specifically what do you call your cow? Since I am not interested, I did not post.

BTW - I am not a member of HuffPo nor am I a bleeding heart liberal, I really do get tired though of people ignoring facts in favor of "what feels good at the moment".

That is the only reason I posted and I was not arguing whether or not anyone else should use herbicides or not..I really could care less. I do think that people have FORGOTTEN our veterans of Vietnam and most could probably care less what happens to those that are still around. However I am NOT one of those people and I WILL and HAVE spoken up time and time again for those that suffer ill effects from Agent Orange.

It's the least I can do since I watched my father DIE of cancer which the Government finally did acknowledge was cause by Agent Orange.

You folks can do as you wish, I will continue to inform people of WHO is responsible for this and continue to help veterans get the benefits they need to address their illnesses. If that makes me a bleeding heart Huffpo liberal, then so be it.

I am sorry for your loss. I have had friends and neighbors die of cancer, likely as a result of their exposure in Vietnam. It is not my intent to discount your personal tragedy, but I would like to bring clearer focus to your statement about Agent Orange. The two chemical compounds in agent Orange are unlikely the cause of your father's cancer. The contaminate, unknown at the time, dioxin is a highly toxic compound. That is the likely cause of cancers in our Vietnam era servicemen. Several companies provided Agent Orange under contract of the US Government. It all had various trace amounts of dioxin.

Judy in IN · #96 01/03/13, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by j.t.m.

that video creeps me out ...
~ shudder ~

me too!

billooo2 · #97 01/03/13, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by haypoint

Then send him a PM.

Gee....I was not aware of this "rule".............

billooo2 · #98 01/03/13, 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=arabian knight;6356133]America is the "Bread Basket" of the World. And it is done this through companies like Monsanto, and many others that are developing crops and allowing farmers to grow more on every acre they plant. Period![/QUOTE

GM crops produce more/acre

The farmers that I know are using GM because they say that they actually need to spray fewer chemikcals.......;shrug:

I thought that I read recently that GMO crops did not produce more/acreut , but I do not remember where it was.,,,,,

haypoint · #99 01/03/13, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by billooo2

Gee....I was not aware of this "rule".............

:h ysterical:

:hys terical:

haypoint · #**100** 01/03/13, 10:10 PM

[quote=billooo2;6362372]

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

America is the "Bread Basket" of the World. And it is done this through companies like Monsanto, and many others that are developing crops and allowing farmers to grow more on every acre they plant. Period![/QUOTE

GM crops produce more/acre

The farmers that I know are using GM because they say that they actually need to spray fewer chemikcals.......;shrug:

I thought that I read recently that GMO crops did not produce more/acreut , but I do not remember where it was.,,,,,

Yes, GMO crops need fewer chemicals and fewer tractor hours and allow for no-till that reduces soil erosion. At one time, 20 years ago, Roundup Ready crops had lower yeilds. Today, they set crop production records.