Monsanto and my opinions/impressions

By the way, do you have a retirement plan with money in mutual funds? If so you yourself may hold monsanto stock.

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Wikipedia??????............even wikipedia says th8at this reference lacks documentation.......

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"When you are having dinner with someone and they are nice to you, but rude to the waiter, then this is not a nice person.".....Dave Barry

The only way you could show validity to claim that I am associated with ELF and greenpeace would be if everything I posted extold the virtues of both of these organizations. If I then came in with 3 or 4 other posters and flamed anyone with a differing opinion then you would be validated.

The fact that you chose my post, call me paranoid and offensive shows a lack of civility on your part. Stupping to name calling is the first line of defence for someone with no decent argument. Perhaps you should "knock it off"

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Think ya used enough dynomite there Butch?

People demand things, get them and when they find out they are bad they sue. Look at medications, many worse than the illness that people thought they had, yet people use them all the time, but when the problem gets worse than the disease they yell that the company is evil. Watch what you wish for. I don't like what Monsanto did, same as a lot of other companies, but I still use roundup. I don't/won't grow roundup ready crops or GMO crops but I don't think the companies are evil. I pick what I am willing to live with and avoid the rest. Many people here want it all, cheap food without paying for the product they want AND then complain about the cost of what they want. Walmart, case in point. Don't like how they do business, then don't buy from them, but don't try and make everyone else tow your line. I don't/won't buy at Walmart but I won't tell someone else they can't....James

And that is so true. What's laughable at times is that Monsanto isn't even the biggest player in this game. If you really looked, you'd find lots of bad things to say about DuPont. Think of the hundreds of thousands of people who were killed as a direct result of their gunpowder. They were also a player in the Manhattan Project which ended up 2 Japanese cities being reduced to charred rubble. Somehow they are the good guys here? If defending any part of Monsanto or their products is a sign of having stock in the company, is there not just as much justification to assume that all of those opposing Monsanto are thus DuPont shareholders.

Martin

And I thought that Monsanto was the topic......

What is your point????........since another company produced a bad product, then Monsanto should be exempt from scrutiny????......I am having trouble following your logic......

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Ya there is always scare tactics made up for all sorts of things these days.
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Your logic does not hold water here. Gunpowder and Atomic weapons are a totally different subject then GMO foods. Apples and oranges if you will. If people were posting, defending and flaming and drinking the DuPont koolaid the same as they are Monsanto I would make the same comment about DuPont stock.

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Think ya used enough dynomite there Butch?

That's good of you to share the same opinion. I'd ask your opinions on Bayer but that would only muddy the waters on this Monsanto thread.

Martin

Yes I am sure. I do not take any drugs other than the occasional Aspirin and do not use Firestone tires. I do not drive a GM vehicle, and I make sure that my 401 K is not vested in companies which I feel are a danger to US citizens or for the matter, ANY citizen in ANY country.

I do not boycott companies which make honest mistakes and then correct them.

I do boycott companies which intentionally KILL people and know they are doing and accept money for doing so. If I could boycott the US government I would. As it is I live here so have to make the best of things but I do not trust the government any further than I can throw any US Senator or Representative as I feel that at any given time any of them would sell out their own Grandmother if the price was high enough.

Other than that - yeah I am good.

On the other hand I do NOT defend companies which kill US Troops and knowingly do so. There is too much documentation which states (and Monsanto stated the same fact) that they knew dioxin was in Agent Orange and yet continued to manufacture it and continued to profit from it.

http://books.google.com/books?id=waT...page&q&f=false


http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...-west-virginia

Further stated by a corporate executive at Dow Chemical and documents released under the Freedom of Information Act:

A review of the documents related to the use of Agent Orange –- a dioxin-laden herbicide -– in Vietnam, including decades-old declassified papers from the companies that manufactured it and the government and military that used it, provides compelling evidence that those in charge also concealed evidence of the devastating effects it could have on people.

A declassified letter by V.K. Rowe at Dow’s Biochemical Research Library to Bioproducts Manager Ross Milholland dated June 24, 1965 clearly states that the company knew the dioxin in their products, including Agent Orange, could hurt people.

In reference to 2,4,5-trichlorophenol and 2,3,7,8-tetrachlorodibenzodioxin (components of Agent Orange), Rowe stated:

“This material is exceptionally toxic; it has a tremendous potential for producing chloracne and systemic injury.”

Rowe worried the company would suffer if word got out.

“The whole 2,4,5-T industry would be hard hit and I would expect restrictive legislation, either barring the material or putting very rigid controls upon it.”

So he said the company should keep quiet about the toxicity: “There is no reason why we cannot get this problem under strict control and thereby hopefully avoid restrictive legislation … I trust you will be very judicious in your use of this information. It could be quite embarrassing if it were misinterpreted or misused … P.S. Under no circumstances may this letter be reproduced, shown, or sent to anyone outside of Dow.”

Dow played its cards right, never getting in serious trouble. The spraying of Agent Orange in Vietnam went on for another six years.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/vietnam...t-orange/14720

Though reports point to the fact that chemical companies like Dow and Monsanto knowingly hid evidence of dioxin-related medical problems from the government, the declassified 1990 Zumwalt Report suggests that US military experts knew that Agent Orange was harmful at the time of its use.

The report quotes a 1988 letter from Dr. James R. Clary, a former government scientist with the Chemical Weapons Branch, to Senator Tom Daschle. Dr. Clary was involved in designing tanks that sprayed herbicides and defoliants in Vietnam, according to the report.

Clary told Daschle:

When we (military scientists) initiated the herbicide program in the 1960′s, we were aware of the potential for damage due to dioxin contamination in the herbicide. We were even aware that the ‘military’ formulation had a higher dioxin concentration than the ‘civilian’ version due to the lower cost and speed of manufacture. However, because the material was to be used on the ‘enemy’, none of us were overly concerned. We never considered a scenario in which our own personnel would become contaminated with the herbicide. And, if we had, we would have expected our own government to give assistance to veterans so contaminated.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/vietnam...t-orange/14720


Defend these companies if you wish..it is a proven FACT and one that Monsanto provided evidence of. They knew, and yet continued to manufacture, a very dangerous herbicide which to this day, continues to cause cancer, birth defects and death in people exposed to it.

Those are the FACTS.

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Plenty of companies produce products which cause those problems shall we condemn them as well...
The company produced the stuff and the military continued to buy it and insist that its members risk exposure to it in the course of their jobs. You can complain all you want but the blame lies at the feet of the govt not Monsanto.

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If they did so knowingly, YES!

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Sorry, no pass for Monsanto as far as I am concerned.......I don't understand such thinking.......I see no logic at all in that......seems like totally deficient reasoning......

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Apparently I missed something......

Are you saying that consumers were demanding GMO food????....please
enlighten me.....were these demostrations????.....riots???.....petitions??? I must have missed this......consumers demanding GMO food!?!? When and where????

Are you saying that companies should not take any responsibility for the safety of their products????

Are you saying that consumers should not have any expectations of product being safe??

Are you saying that there will be problems with GMO food.....and no one should complain.....or expect them to be safe???

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"When you are having dinner with someone and they are nice to you, but rude to the waiter, then this is not a nice person.".....Dave Barry

Interesting conversation. Interesting to see how twisted up logic can get.

Hatred can get in the way of clear thinking.

--->Paul

I agree, it's one of the chemicals used in my line of business that puts food on my family's table.

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I wish all you anti everything people would start your own forum so you can bitch and moan to yourself without the rest of us having to listen to you.

I agree.

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