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01/01/13, 12:39 PM
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Hmmm, PP, it seems, according to that article, blocking GMO salmon is pretty much a bi-partisan effort...both Dems and Repubs uniting on not wanting it passed. And they are Dem and Repub from states with a large Salmon industry.
Wonder why the states with a flourishing Salmon industry would not want these GMO salmon released? It's not like there aren't farmed Salmon already, so farming Salmon isn't the issue...these states are simply against the GMO ones.
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01/01/13, 12:46 PM
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Hmmm, PP, it seems, according to that article, blocking GMO salmon is pretty much a bi-partisan effort...both Dems and Repubs uniting on not wanting it passed. And they are Dem and Repub from states with a large Salmon industry.
Wonder why the states with a flourishing Salmon industry would not want these GMO salmon released? It's not like there aren't farmed Salmon already, so farming Salmon isn't the issue...these states are simply against the GMO ones.
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Totally agreed-this isn't a liberal/conservative thing.
I would like to know why they don't want GMO salmon in their waters, too. Think maybe there is a study we could do to find out the potential long term damage before they are released, maybe? Or -hold on a minute- maybe there IS enough evidence that has convinced these folks GMO salmon doesn't belong in their water - and we just haven't been made aware of it. Hmmm....
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01/01/13, 01:48 PM
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I somehow think, because it is government, that they are less concerned about environmental impact and health concerns than they are about current industry impact. Seems there might be an industry impact that we may not be aware of....
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01/01/13, 01:52 PM
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Totally agreed-this isn't a liberal/conservative thing.
I would like to know why they don't want GMO salmon in their waters, too. Think maybe there is a study we could do to find out the potential long term damage before they are released, maybe? Or -hold on a minute- maybe there IS enough evidence that has convinced these folks GMO salmon doesn't belong in their water - and we just haven't been made aware of it. Hmmm.... 
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01/01/13, 02:25 PM
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Totally agreed-this isn't a liberal/conservative thing.
I would like to know why they don't want GMO salmon in their waters, too. Think maybe there is a study we could do to find out the potential long term damage before they are released, maybe? Or -hold on a minute- maybe there IS enough evidence that has convinced these folks GMO salmon doesn't belong in their water - and we just haven't been made aware of it. Hmmm.... 
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Because water is not confined to the United States of America. Neither are fish. If GMO salmon were released into the waters of USA there would be nothing stopping them from contaminating and effecting the overall ecology of the oceans, rivers and lake waters of all of Asia, (Japan, Korea, Taiwan, China, etc.) all of North America, all of the U.K, Europe, Russia, Siberia, etc., and any other places where there are already natural salmonids.
It would be a global food chain disaster. I don't think USA wants to be held responsible for releasing such an ecological disaster on the world.
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01/01/13, 02:52 PM
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Not necessarily related to the release of GMO salmon, but may be of interest to anyone who is generally interested in salmon.
- Largest salmon species in the world edges toward extinction - 19 October 2012 | News story
http://www.iucn.org/?uNewsID=11289
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01/02/13, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PrettyPaisley
Totally agreed-this isn't a liberal/conservative thing.
I would like to know why they don't want GMO salmon in their waters, too. Think maybe there is a study we could do to find out the potential long term damage before they are released, maybe? Or -hold on a minute- maybe there IS enough evidence that has convinced these folks GMO salmon doesn't belong in their water - and we just haven't been made aware of it. Hmmm.... 
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So, you are puzzled why 2 politicians from a state with a strong salmon industry are opposed to a fish innovation that would allow other people in other states to grow large salmon more cheaply, undercutting the value of Alaskan raised salmon and the local economies of Alaska?
Really? You don't see that?
Your link is actually supporting the other side, that there is no reason to hold up the release of these salmon species - the only objections are for political money reasons.
All politics, based on money and greed, is why the Alaskan congress folk are opposed. To put it in your language.
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01/02/13, 10:48 AM
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If these genetically engineered salmon ever got out in natural water ways(which they will) they will reck havock on the ecosystem. These fish eat more and grow faster then regular salmon.
Example: Just look at what happened with asian carp (a fish with a ravenous appetite/which these salmon supposedly have also) They were introduced here many years ago and look at all the devistation they have caused. I know they arent genetically modified, but i believe it would have the same effect (except for the rapid breeding, but what if some of these salmon just happen to be fertile, it would be disastrous).
I would personally never eat any of these salmon
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My DH and I eat wild caught salmon and it is pricey to have it shipped. I would not knowingly eat a GMO salmon and I do not like farmed salmon. I don't buy Tilapia either because it tastes so bland.
I know what has happened with the "grass carp" - that was a disaster and then you have the "walking" catfish - another disaster. I guess people don't know when to leave well enough alone.
And there is no one way I could be convinced that if these "super" salmon got out and about that they would not endanger or drive to extinction the wild native salmon who would not compete.
I also don't buy for a minute that every.single.female would be sterile. Too much can go wrong.
I predict it won't be long before meat will be grown in the petri dishes - if the gov. can figure out how to mass produce protein and hide how it is done..it will be done. No one I know would willingly eat petri dish meat, if they knew that was how it was done.
But if they came out with some sort of "nice sounding label" to hide the fact , then they could get away with it.
Sometimes just because a person CAN do something, does not mean they SHOULD do it.
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