Whats the best use of this land IYO?

300 bales times 85 pounds per acre is 25500 pounds or about 13 ton to the acre........
Thats pretty good here!

Alla our bales was around 50/60lbs.

We got 3 cuttings up home. that would trickle down to the origional 100 an acre, WHICH I still say is dang good a cutting.

Well said.

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When I was in high school I hauled hay for a "alfalfa ranch" in southwestern Mo. The owner had just over 100 acres in alfalfa, and he averaged just over 9 ton per acre the three years I hauled there. These were 60-65 lb. avg. bales. He usually got 3 cuttings a year.
This past year I got just under 7 tons per acre on my fescue clover fields, but I round bale.

So you inherited your farm and think that its impossible for anyone to make it on their own ( you never had to ) I can show you many examples of people who are doing it on their own to prove you wrong...I'm one of them. I bought this place for a good price, built it up with my own two hands, and turn a profit every year for 3 years. I'm not going to waste my time giving you a business lesson, it will only fall on deaf ears. You are a negative force....Go away.

Here I'm on the VT/NY border. 100 per acre per cutting is a good number here as we get plenty of rain. The problem is the usual is only 2 cuttings in a season due to the short season and very wet spring. So for TOTAL season about 200 per is about right. Sometimes you might get 3 cuts in if the stars all line up right. Hay bales in this immediate area running anywhere from 2.50 to 5 dollars a bale. Price goes up in winter. Prices on that property are a bit high at 2000. That is because it is located in the center of town where alot of commerce is happening (they call it the industrial center )...it is also zoned commercial.

My thoughts are that this land might make a good investment property because of its location. I might hold it and sell it in ten years for a bit of a profit anyways. But the issue is what to do with it in the mean time to maximize the income potential.

I won't confuse you with facts--you can't read well anyway.

Go away. Defecate somewhere else.

Dude...really?

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Is there a crop or crops you can grow that have more value per ac. than hay or a grain ?
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Might be sweet corn....but there is a short window for it, might be more potential for loss too.

Really what? Really she keeps posting garbage on my thread and wasting my time? Sometimes this forum can be so useful and there are so many good, knowledgeable people here to give give advice and bounce things off of. Unfortunately there is another element, people who are here for a different reason. I'm tired of those types who just take the opportunity to try and attack and belittle any poster. They shouldn't be here. I'm here to discuss a land investment opportunity with people like myself who are serious, experienced, and have done things on their own. I don't want to deal with small people who want to argue, put you down, or be negative about things they don't know anything about. Sorry if I come across harsh or P.Oed but I'm tired of it.

This is what I was thinking originally. .

I hate it too BUT you need it for balance .Sometimes those that blow sunshine up your but are NOT your friends. IF you cant see the downsides YOU WILL FAIL. See them ,avoid them, ,make use of other peoples misfortunes.

Often in my posts in the other areas of the forum Bearfoot, Cesumpec, Watcher and others jump on me with both feet. They hold my feet to the fire making me think of and find out everything I can. As much as I hate it I LEARN far more from them and their questions than the ones That agree with me.

Be thankful they show up!

I have been bothered by your attitud in this thread. You have a question and being here you are looking for free advice. Your comments are very harsh and mean, your questions show a lot less experience or maturity than you seem to think you possess.

And then you go off belittling people that bother to reply to you.

I've tried to offer replies that would steer you towards more civil discussion, and tried to overlook your back end of a horse attitudes.

But enough is enough, man you are a full load, and full of yourself!

Open forums are full of people of all experiences and opinions, and may be having a good day or bad day so you don't always get the most polished reply. Ask a question, see where the thread goes, glean from it what is useful. Welcome to the internet.

But to keep telling us what a smart person you are as you put down entire classes of people, as well as many good individuals here, and expect other people to get out of your whiney way....

You bring a lot of attitude here, and not much else. Look in a mirror if you aren't getting along with people.

And _you_ are tired of it?????

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You came into this discussion with a burr in your saddle by your own admission. You've made a big show of being bothered but trying gallantly to remain civil. Now you are claiming tpo have insight into my personal experience and "maturity". Sorry if you don't like my opinions or my reference to 'big ag' ( no you are NOT anything even close to 'big ag' so stop ). My post was an open invitation to throw ideas around about how best to profit from a good piece of land, I will not let it descend into an argument about whether or not it is even possible to make any profit from land. There is no argument there, while I'm no millionaire, I have made everything I have from property investments, and I currently do profit from farming/timber. And many others have as well. That is not the issue.

"Open forums are full of people of all experiences and opinions, and may be having a good day or bad day so you don't always get the most polished reply" - take your own advice.

I've gotten some great ideas here in spite of some of the venomous voices and attitudes from you and one other. Luckily MOST people here are good and helpful and those in your camp are the minority. Thanks to most of you who are mature and experienced enough to have something worthwhile to ad. If you don't care for my opinions, rambler, you have a choice...keep whining on my thread about how you have failed at farming....or stop posting here. I hope you will choose the latter..

PS.

I also received a PM from a poster who wanted to add to the discussion but was too afraid due to the venomous and negative comments from you and the other. I have no respect for bullies.

have you considered growing winter greens in large hoop houses?
could rotate with early toms and peppers in summer. put layers in there...every other winter. not a huge start up cost and certainly a need.

cheers

For all the people bothered by the OPs attitude like I am...he only has the experience of farming a parcel of land that isn't big enough to produce his needed 500 bales. Need I say more?



Hello. I am considering the purchase of a piece of land. It all started out because I don't have enough hay and don't like buying it, so I was looking at a little hay field to sustain my animals and maybe a little extra to sell or to allow me to grow my flock.

Some points; Already have haying equipment. Located in the northeast, I average about 100 bales per acre on my land. I only need about 500 bales to get me through a winter ( I don't have a massive amount of animals ).

. Sorry guy - you've got the wrong attitude because you didn't get the support and back patting you wanted.

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Good idea! Hadn't considered that. Thanks!

Yes its called pasture land. If you don't know what that is, and if you don't understand stocking rates in my area, or the expected expansion of my livestock holdings, I suggest you hold off on the sarcasm to avoid looking foolish.


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