Their Like Everyone Else !!!

Okay, so why let the Fetus get so close to becoming a Human?
If you don't want to have a kid, there are soo many things made out of rubber to prevent contraception. That is WHY it is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE for a Pregnant Woman to get a Abortion!

You get pregnant to have a kid, W.H.A.T [edited] do we not understand!

They have a good marketing strategy. They are like any other major corporation that markets their products. They tell people what they want to hear and take advantage of people’s ignorance and inability to investigate. One major corporation that could compare to them would be AOL. AOL provides the worst Internet access for and inflated price yet people continue to use them. You ask why? The answer is that they market their product to death. You see commercials and CDs in your mailbox. They tell you they are number one, even though their service and support is horrible. If they tell enough people enough times, those people for lack of logical investigation begin to believe them. The largest problem for the masses and the biggest advantage for those in power is that people for what ever reason chose not to think! All though Adolf Hitler used his power to commit horrible atrocities he was a very wise man. He once said “What good fortune for those in power that people do not think”. Wake up to the ways of the word people; use your mind, because until you liberate your own thought process the elite few will continue to control you.

Your opinion only on AOL. I've been an AOL user for 10 years, because I've been with them so long I was able to get a monthly cost adjustment down to $14.95. There were problems when I started with them in early 1994, but they've long been resolved. They are very knowledgeable and are very willing to help me with ANY software problem--even if it isn't AOL. I would much rather deal with them than with Dell. I will never, as long as I live, buy another Dell product. Their outsourcing makes it nearly impossible to understand the techs and that's IF you can get hold of them. I've had my system (Dimension 4600C with all in one printer combo) for all of 5 months and the hard drive has already been replaced once and there are problems with the system now. I had to threaten them with a consumer advocate before they would do anything.

So, have you ever been an AOL customer? If so, when? If not, why are you complaining about them?

Stacy in NY

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I love it when my grand babies see me, scream my name, and run to hug me.

Yes I was a past customer of AOL for about 5 years (94’-99’). It’s been a while I remember the 14.4, the 28.8, and the 56K modems; I don’t remember the precise timeline though (it’s been a while). I was never enthusiastic about their service but at the time my options where limited. Some of the things that bugged me about AOL where 1) Being a web developer I liked to work out of multiple browsers (during that time Netscape and IE coding was very different) and would get booted constantly for not actively surfing with the AOL browser. 2) The massive amount of spam that I receive through their email because their list of screen names (which are also email address) are publicly accessible. 3) The massive amounts of advertising encounter during every login (there was less advertising on free Internet services that made their money through ads). 4) When I asked questions of tech support many times I found myself teaching those who where suppose to be resolving my issue. While most of the time I could fix my own problems being that I have a good understanding of PC hardware/software repair, networking, and programming many others (family members, friends) where not able to do so and AOL tech support where not too good at solving their problems either. Guess who ended up fixing those problems free of charge (if you guessed me you are correct). Now that’s ancient history and I have moved on. I have DSL service with another company and am very happy. That’s my two cents on AOL although that was not where I was going with the conversation. It was just a decent comparison. I hope this helps to clarify my negative image of AOL.

Oilpatch,

You asked:
Of course it is arguable if these issues do affect one's spirituality. However, there are some groups who have chosen not to permit automobile ownership/driving, yet permit tractors (with rubber tires) to be used on the road. Some such groups have taken to using the tractor for transportation. They have enclosed trailers in which the family might ride to town to shop, for instance.

Other groups do not permit pneumatic tires on their tractors. They have taken a stand against using tractors for transportation. The thinking is it represents the first step toward acceptance of the automobile, to which they are opposed.

Some of the concerns about automobiles include the separation of the family, including extended family; the possibility of causing someone's death in an accident; the cost of operation; and departure from tradition.

Again, this thinking may not seem correct to some people, but there is some rational behind it.

River

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And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away. (I Cor. 7:31)

I think the most common misconception about Amish/Mennonites is the fact that technology in itself is NOT against their religion. They view most technology as a distraction, not as something evil. The only reason they choose not to embrace certain forms of technology is to maintain their simple lifestyle, which IS the basis of their religion.

They adopt technology only if they think it will help them with their work without becoming a burden, or negatively affecting their lifestyle. With that being said, every Amish group interprets that in a different way, which is why you see such drastic differences. Some groups may think that a phone is a distraction, whereas another group may see a phone as a vital tool in their daily lives. In either case, the decision was heavily weighed and the outcome very deliberate.

The reason they dont have electricity is not because electricity is evil. They dont want electricity because it forces them to be dependant on the electric company. If they can generate their own power (and many do) it is for the most part acceptable. However, many of them dont like electricity, or rather, electric devices, because it speeds up their lives. Amish people like to live life at a very measured pace, which allows them time to pray and thank God throughout the day. Anything that takes away that time is not seen as something positive.

I really don't know what the fuss is about the Amish. After all this is still America and everyone is suppose to have the right to practice their faith the way they want.

There is as many different types of Amish beliefs as there are different Christanity beliefs. No matter what they practice, in the end everyone will have to answer to a higher power.

Count me in as someone who loves AOL. I access it everywhere I go easily (even from cruise ships). I have NEVER had a virus in my over 7 years of using AOL. It is stupid-proof for others in the household. And the deals for travel have occassionally beat the best at other online sites. Once saved a client of mine $400 on a flight. I have used online tech support with instant results, but that was years ago. I haven't had any problems to speak of in the last few years.

Very true, it is a sad thing when you think about it we live here in the FREE USA, the only country in the world where Murder by abortion is promoted and praised yet Suicide is a crime. They will lock you up for trying to take your life, but kill an unborn or just being born child and your a hero! It makes me sick and I am glad I will never have to answer to the Good Lord as to why I killed one of his childern.

Tracy

I also have not had any problems with AOL.. and I have been using them for 10 years.

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It's no different than any other marketing strategy. Maine lobsters are not different from Massachusetts lobsters except that they come from Maine. Cheese and fruitcakes made by monks are comparable to many others, but they're more popular and command a higher price because monks make it. Old Town canoes are as popular as they are because of the "outdoor pipe dream" marketing strategies of Leon Bean. Walmart got its initial foothold because they marketed themselves as Americans selling American products, even though the item selection was no different than KMart's, they just didn't come from China. Everyone capitalizes on whatever makes them different; every business needs a gimmick to set them apart from the rest.