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Old 11/26/12, 11:06 AM
 
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Great job and salary for her, but not so great for the thousands of seniors who can't afford their medications because of overpaid employee's.

I guess its different strokes for different folks though,
some love money while others love life.
With Medicare Part D, state pharmaceutical assistance programs, and manufacturer programs we still are going to hear about people who can't afford their medications?

So this individual does not deserve to be compensated for developing potentially life-saving drugs? Could you develop drugs and if so would you do it for free? Would it be better if there was no pharmaceutical industry at all?
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With Medicare Part D, state pharmaceutical assistance programs, and manufacturer programs we still are going to hear about people who can't afford their medications?

So this individual does not deserve to be compensated for developing potentially life-saving drugs? Could you develop drugs and if so would you do it for free? Would it be better if there was no pharmaceutical industry at all?
Absolutely NOT.

Most of the drugs they make have side effects worse than a persons conditions.
I know raping society when I see it and the pharma industry is amongst the worst.
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Old 11/26/12, 07:31 PM
 
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All drugs have adverse reactions. While we live in a society where there is a pill for everything judicious use of medicine only when needed lowers the risk. The pharma industry (like all business) exists to make money and has made some poor decisions along the way. Overall though they have saved far more lives than they have harmed.

The greatest thing about this country is that you can choose not to take anything produced by pharma! Best to wear some sort of bracelet with this wish in case you are wheeled into an ER on a stretcher.
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Old 11/27/12, 02:45 PM
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And going back to the College idea......

This is a good thread with a LOT of different perspectives. I think the theme I see over and over again is, well it just depends.....

Everyone is so different in what they want, what they value, where they come from and it seems most have done what works for them. I hope I can let go and allow my children to do what they want and not what I want for them, got a few years until then, not gonna rush them getting older any quicker then they already are (side note, my youngest turned 6 yesterday, man the time does fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

PS On the spell check thing, I think that was just a joke. I am the worst speller, but I don't think college would have fixed that
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Old 11/27/12, 03:44 PM
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PS On the spell check thing, I think that was just a joke. I am the worst speller, but I don't think college would have fixed that
From the horse's mouth here: you are correct, college won't change that. On the positive side, any words above 16 letters pertaining to your field of study, you will spell PERFECTLY, every time.

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Mrs. Lois Waymire, my seventh grade English grammar teacher, taught me far more than I learned in college, but still, my degree got me through the door. Mrs. Henry Oberholtzer, my high school "touch" typing teacher, prepared me for the computer age, long before it ever came along. I doubt they're living now, but thanks, anyway if either of them just happen to read this.

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Old 11/28/12, 10:57 AM
 
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Yes, I agree it depends. If you want to be an engineer then it is required. These days everyone thinks everyone should go to college and the colleges are glad to come up with junk class for you to spend your money on. HA!

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Computer Science for me and chemistry for the wife. My job is in software and she is in pharma. Both our situations required degrees, so very much worth it. Those industries are also doing very well in our area, but we had to move to this location so we could both have good jobs.
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Old 11/28/12, 07:22 PM
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And going back to the College idea......

This is a good thread with a LOT of different perspectives. I think the theme I see over and over again is, well it just depends.....

Everyone is so different in what they want, what they value, where they come from and it seems most have done what works for them. I hope I can let go and allow my children to do what they want and not what I want for them, got a few years until then, not gonna rush them getting older any quicker then they already are (side note, my youngest turned 6 yesterday, man the time does fly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Exactly.

I have a very bright daughter who is in her second year of Law School, on full scholarship. She is in the top 10% of her class (this is the #2 ranked Law School in Texas). Needless to say, her prospective earning power is pretty good.

I have an even brighter son who lasted one year at University and is currently working at a grocery store, building and selling forges, and making knives and swords. He has purchased, with his meager salary, a welder, an oxy acetylene cutting torch, and hundreds of dollars or steel plate, angle iron etc.

Two very smart kids, going in drastically different directions. As it should be!

All I can do is try to support them as they find their way to independence and productivity.


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I have a very bright daughter who is in her second year of Law School, on full scholarship. She is in the top 10% of her class (this is the #2 ranked Law School in Texas). Needless to say, her prospective earning power is pretty good.

I have an even brighter son who lasted one year at University and is currently working at a grocery store, building and selling forges, and making knives and swords. He has purchased, with his meager salary, a welder, an oxy acetylene cutting torch, and hundreds of dollars or steel plate, angle iron etc.
If TSHTF your son might have an even brighter future than your daughter!
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A degree is worth more than you think. If you learn to learn something new each day and put it to work for you you will have a happy life. If you don't then you may not be so happy. I have seen a lot of people with a PHD that couldn't do anything for them self but know all about any subject. I also know people with out a degree that could do things that only somebody with a degree can do. Learning how is better than learning why.
Both of my daughters did not know what they wanted to do so they both joined the Military and when their enlistment was up they both knew what they wanted to do and went to school for that.
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Old 11/29/12, 05:31 PM
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College was pretty much a waste of time for me. I am an autodidact. But for someone who needs the classroom environment in order to learn, university has its place.

Of course, the profs at the public university I attended were more concerned with changing my religion, party affiliation or gender preference than they were actually teaching me anything. I believe that is much more prevalent today than it was 20 years ago.

So weigh the risks of sending your kids off to college - why pay money to have their minds ruined by liberal professors? If you're determined to get your kids indoctrinated with liberal tripe, just park them in front of the TV. Same outcome.
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I think my time at Algonquin College's school of business was worth the time and money for me. A good basic business education helps in every aspect of life. When I went back a few years ago for my technical certification it was in an accelerated course geared for adults, and that was both enjoyable and useful.
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My BIL has a Doctorate in history and has written two or three books on the civil war, and about the only jobs he has found is teaching drivers Ed and doing data input at a bank, to pay the bills.

My SIL went to Yale and has a masters an was working for a Doctorate in some type of history , when she stopped going to school, got a job as a Librarian. for the last 25 years.

Collage only helps if you are educated in some thing you can get a job in,
(many people I know would be qualified for the jobs they do with or with out there collage experience),

I do know some who have used there degree and it has helped them in great ways,
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I think my time at Algonquin College's school of business was worth the time and money for me. A good basic business education helps in every aspect of life. When I went back a few years ago for my technical certification it was in an accelerated course geared for adults, and that was both enjoyable and useful.
Me too! Go Algonquin!
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Old 11/29/12, 06:10 PM
 
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College was pretty much a waste of time for me. I am an autodidact. But for someone who needs the classroom environment in order to learn, university has its place.

Of course, the profs at the public university I attended were more concerned with changing my religion, party affiliation or gender preference than they were actually teaching me anything. I believe that is much more prevalent today than it was 20 years ago.

So weigh the risks of sending your kids off to college - why pay money to have their minds ruined by liberal professors? If you're determined to get your kids indoctrinated with liberal tripe, just park them in front of the TV. Same outcome.
LOL! You must have attended some lousy schools - or had too big a chip on your shoulder to see the blackboard clearly.
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Old 11/29/12, 06:54 PM
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Let's just say one of the pre-requisite classes included an option to learn about "Lesbian Techniques."
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Let's just say one of the pre-requisite classes included an option to learn about "Lesbian Techniques."
What were you studying?
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Let's just say one of the pre-requisite classes included an option to learn about "Lesbian Techniques."

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What were you studying?
And which school was it? Did you graduate?
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Old 11/29/12, 08:17 PM
 
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College was pretty much a waste of time for me. I am an autodidact. But for someone who needs the classroom environment in order to learn, university has its place.

Of course, the profs at the public university I attended were more concerned with changing my religion, party affiliation or gender preference than they were actually teaching me anything. I believe that is much more prevalent today than it was 20 years ago.

So weigh the risks of sending your kids off to college - why pay money to have their minds ruined by liberal professors? If you're determined to get your kids indoctrinated with liberal tripe, just park them in front of the TV. Same outcome.
It's become much, much worse. I thought things were bad when I did grad school with the Jesuits. <shudder>

But I was older, had a wider base of knowledge on which to build. The only reason I did it was to jump through the hoops to follow my dream. I believe I wasted my time, and have the useless education debt to prove it.

Our daughter is enrolled in a state university on her GI Bill. She has to put in twice as much work in order to wade through the dreck slung by the liberal profs.

Sadly, she believes the bio prof is reliable simply because she cited what appears to be solid research. It looks pretty on the surface, but it's terribly biased. I challenged her to ask why the prof hasn't cited any research that disagrees with her POV.

DD became a bit defensive. <sigh>

Yeah, the indoctrination centers are flourishing, Chuck.
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