"Wheat Belly" - New Book On How To Control Blood Sugar

countryfied2011 · #**121** 10/18/12, 04:09 PM

I just had a realization when i went to get some bell pepper out of the freezer What am I going to do with all the wheat I have...if you store food, meaning by in bulk or store for emergencies what will you do with any wheat, flour or by-products?

I have a lot of flour, etc in my freezer, also have wheat grain in 25 lb container for emergencies. I am not going to throw all of this away, and I am not going to donate all of it either, some things I might once I know for sure that cutting out the wheat is the right thing to do. There is a lot of money tied up in "my grocery store"

Thats another reason I couldn't go Paleo.

I see a lot of cooking in my future to give to family and friends...

Alice In TX/MO · #**122** 10/18/12, 05:24 PM

Today's article on wheat from Mark's Daily Apple, a Paleo site:

Is Modern Wheat Unhealthy? | Mark's Daily Apple

YuccaFlatsRanch · #**123** 10/18/12, 06:03 PM

"Dang, someone in the office left muffins for everyone, and I just opened a banana nut one" Just killed another half dozen insulin producing cells. :-)

YuccaFlatsRanch · #**124** 10/18/12, 06:06 PM

"I just had a realization when i went to get some bell pepper out of the freezer What am I going to do with all the wheat I have...if you store food, meaning by in bulk or store for emergencies what will you do with any wheat, flour or by-products?"

I to have hundreds of pounds of wheat and grains stored. I just figure that if things get so bad I need to use it, I will make the choice between eating and starving. I think I will choose to eat the wheat in that instance - it's not like going to a FEMA shelter would be improving my diet!!!

CJ · #**125** 10/18/12, 06:14 PM

I have years worth of wheat in storage, as well as other grains, legumes and beans. It's not going anywhere, because if I'm hungry I will eat it.

countryfied2011 · #**126** 10/18/12, 07:20 PM

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as well as other grains, legumes and beans. It's not going anywhere, because if I'm hungry I will eat it.

Ha! it is not going anywhere at my house because it is part of our staples, I am not on a diet-- low carb or Paleo, and I am not a diabetic, as far as I know my insulin etc is working fine....so these carbs stay, just in moderation, especially since it doesnt seem to effect my symptoms. For right now the wheat and by-products will stay I just wont be using them, DH is not fully on board yet, though he will eat whatever I fix. I am very fortunate that the hubby will eat almost anything with exception of kraut and something else I cant remember right now....I guess that comes from being so poor growing up.

I did pick up some of Pamela's Gluten/Wheat free baking and pancake mix. $13.00 for 4 lbs...that will definitely be used sparingly at that price. I also want to research the fermenting/soaking the grains that I read in the article that Alice posted earlier.

Alice In TX/MO · #**127** 10/18/12, 07:24 PM

Whole grain wheat can be planted and used for forage for cattle/goat/other animals.

It can also be plowed in as 'green manure.'

countryfied2011 · #**128** 10/18/12, 07:27 PM

you could always use it to lure in doves during dove season..wouldnt go to waste because we eat doves

unioncreek · #**129** 10/18/12, 07:42 PM

I've been reading up on wheat belly and it looks to me as just a lot of hype like the Adkins diet was. I think you'll see it fade away after a while. That Dr is also including barley and rye with wheat, but they don't have any gliadin in them. They have a protein that is in the same family, but is different.

Bob

ChristieAcres · #**130** 10/18/12, 07:48 PM

Just read some of the posts, including mine. I am much healthier, feel better, and I don't gain weight. DH is OFF his blood pressure meds. The diet and regular exercise did the trick! In addition, his prediabetic condition evaporated... My friend with Crohn's has told me her results are remarkable. She went from pale and sickly looking to full color and sparkling eyes.

ChristieAcres · #**131** 10/18/12, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by unioncreek

I've been reading up on wheat belly and it looks to me as just a lot of hype like the Adkins diet was. I think you'll see it fade away after a while. That Dr is also including barley and rye with wheat, but they don't have any gliadin in them. They have a protein that is in the same family, but is different.

Bob

If You read the book, then go on the diet changes, then I'd be more inclined to consider giving weight to those words.

Just getting off sugar made a tremendous difference in my health and quality of life, and going Paleo made it even better!

unioncreek · #**132** 10/18/12, 08:22 PM

There's many kinds of diets and if this one suits you, more power to you. To me it all has to do with moderation. The only medication I'm on is for cholesterol, but mine is genetic and never changed regardless of what I eat.

Bob

ChristieAcres · #**133** 10/18/12, 09:05 PM

Cholesterol, manufactured by the body, is another topic completely, for sure. Bob, you can believe what you wish, but you haven't read the book or gone months eating Gluten Free or Paleo. There are folks on here who have and do...

I am living proof to others I know with FMS and CFS, ZERO meds, treat myself naturally with my diet, environment, and also exercise. My results are remarkable, however, my triggers are different than some other FMS sufferers have. In addition, there are connected diseases/disorders that make each person different. In other words, we won't achieve the same results no matter what we do, but some of us may get similar results. It is worth that to try!

Since Dr's, Naturapaths, and Health Food Stores, are recommending Gluten Free and also Paleo Lifestyle Diets, I highly doubt they will just fade away. That would only happen if they don't prove effective. So, if you are pre-diabetic, go Paleo, aren't prediabetic...that isn't temporary. If you have Crohn's Disease, that is affected directly by diet, and change that to a modified Paleo (not eating things that cause reactions), that isn't temporary for feeling better than eating a crappy diet. There are folks with medical conditions whose health improves dramatically when they change their diets. Again, it is worth it to try!

countryfied2011 · #**134** 10/18/12, 09:21 PM

Bob, I dont know if cutting out wheat/gluten is going to work for me..but I have nothing to loose in trying it out. Obviously in my case(stomach problems) anything I have tried has not worked at least for very long. As far as my FMS, cutting out wheat makes a lot of sense because of inflammatory responses, I also have IBS which goes along with FMS. I studied inflammatory foods and anti-inflammatory foods and did real good with it for awhile, until I fell off the wagon, so cutting out wheat makes so much sense to me as far as my FMS, and so far I have felt better until I fell off my bike tonight...at 56 you dont land as easy as when you were 5 or 6...especially with FMS, I am dreading tomorrow when I wake...hopefully I wont have any reprecussion.

In the past I have had stomach problems had both colonscopy? and endiscopy? without finding a thing...What I find interesting when I was at a gastronilgist? the number of people in the office was mind boggling....so it does make one wonder since wheat is a staple in so many households, especially with so many processed foods.

It might be a fad, but I agree with Lori, for those who have issues what is it going to hurt to try?

The Paleo might be the next thing on my bucket list...lol I believe in eating whole foods and I believe in moderation although I dont always follow it...it is hard when you live in the south..

Each of us has to work out in our own life what works best, so some will try it and some wont. Good Luck to those that do...I also dont believe that there are those on HT that would post its working if it wasnt.

Edited to add, I also have RLS, so I am hoping I can fix that too.

countryfied2011 · #**135** 10/18/12, 09:29 PM

Have you ever wondered why there are so many syndromes? I do and I whole heartedly believe it has to do with the foods that are being produced commercially.

ChristieAcres · #**136** 10/18/12, 09:36 PM

Some of you may shudder, but I am now feeding my chickens all the dehydrated corn I did! They love it, and when it is gone, no more corn prepped. Wheat? I never considered it a staple before, so didn't bother to prep it! That is good, since I don't like wasting food, either. Sugar? I had bees, so they got it ALL. I simply stopped eating what I shouldn't, only prep healthy foods, and don't buy any unhealthy stuff. If I had a bunch of wheat, I would trade with someone for something else! Either that, or I would sell it.

MARYDVM · #**137** 10/18/12, 10:02 PM

There is quite a lot of variation in "paleo". A number of people eat sweet potatoes. A few use white potatoes now too. "Primal" folks eat dairy products, as do I.

Dr. Davis of "Wheat Belly" thinks that any natural sweetener is toxic (ignoring that our hunter gatherer ancestors used to feast on honey whenever they could find it). Yet he actively promotes using artificial sweeteners to make wheat free desserts.

And if all grains and legumes are toxic, why are there are billions of healthy Asians who consume large quantities of rice every day?

The best thing to do is to research thoroughly and decide for yourself.
But be aware there is quite a lot of bogus science being passed around on the internet as fact.

One of the problems I have with Dr. Davis is his single mindedness in promoting his beliefs, and that includes stretching the truth to support his views and generalizing the problems associated with modern wheat to include all grains.

vicki in NW OH · #**138** 10/18/12, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by unioncreek

I've been reading up on wheat belly and it looks to me as just a lot of hype like the Adkins diet was. I think you'll see it fade away after a while. That Dr is also including barley and rye with wheat, but they don't have any gliadin in them. They have a protein that is in the same family, but is different.

Bob

With celiac disease, barley and rye cause the same damage as wheat to the villi of the small intestine.

ChristieAcres · #**139** 10/19/12, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MARYDVM

There is quite a lot of variation in "paleo". A number of people eat sweet potatoes. A few use white potatoes now too. "Primal" folks eat dairy products, as do I.

Dr. Davis of "Wheat Belly" thinks that any natural sweetener is toxic (ignoring that our hunter gatherer ancestors used to feast on honey whenever they could find it). Yet he actively promotes using artificial sweeteners to make wheat free desserts.

And if all grains and legumes are toxic, why are there are billions of healthy Asians who consume large quantities of rice every day?

The best thing to do is to research thoroughly and decide for yourself.
But be aware there is quite a lot of bogus science being passed around on the internet as fact.

One of the problems I have with Dr. Davis is his single mindedness in promoting his beliefs, and that includes stretching the truth to support his views and generalizing the problems associated with modern wheat to include all grains.

You have made good points, but as soon as you put people with pre-diabetic or diabetic conditions and a multitude of diseases most of the diet restrictions specifically have a huge impact on their health. While white rice is basically an empty carb, brown rice is a complex carb; they aren't the same.

Back when my DS was a young boy, his Pediatrician put him on an elimination diet. We determined quickly what foods he should avoid. Just changing his diet resulted in greater health and also behavior. Sugar is worse than gluten, but both are unhealthy in the current highly processed or modified forms.

Empty carbs cause sugar spikes, bad for diabetes, pre-diabetes, OCD, ADD, ADHD, HD, FMS, CFS, and the list goes on. White rice is an empty carb...

Absolutely, there is a lot of nonsense on the net.

So, for those who haven't tried to go gluten free, but are critical or doubt the value? Nothing to lose to see how you feel after a month.

For those going gluten free and or Paleo, do your research, and put your meals together using knowledge and common sense. Eat local whole foods, skip imported foods, buy in bulk, join a co-op, purchase from local farmers, or farmers markets, and remember to consider bartering.

mahto · #**140** 11/06/12, 11:15 AM

I am not a biologist, a nutritionist or a soothsayer! That being said, I am a 57 year old male, 6'0", 279#, type II diabetic, with all the attendant issues (high blood pressure, chlestoral, etc.)

I researched the paleo diet for about a month, after reading this thread and others like it. On November 1, my DW and I both began a "Whole 30" per Mark Sisson's Primal Fitness. In just 5 days, we have seen the following results: (Me): Morning BP before medication down from 190/105(!) to average of 145/85; better rested, more energy, little to no cravings, and I also quit a 4-5 liter/day diet soda habit @ the same time. I have already cut my daily insulin dosage by 20%! (DW): reports significant reduction in fibromyalgia symptoms, significant reduction in acid reflux, and increase in clarity and general well-being...

These ARE NOT scientific, empirical results by any means...but they do seem to show a striking trend in the direction we need to go. primalfitness.com has a free downloadable cookbook, as well as many other resources regarding Paleo/Primal. I recommend you check it out.

Nerdfitness.com is another great resource for Paleo related subjects. I also particulaly like Robb Wolfe's book, The Paleo Solution. I know its not for everyone, but I already feel like the Paleo blueprint is going to help in ways that I could never before help myself!

Of course, YMMV...Good luck!