"Wheat Belly" - New Book On How To Control Blood Sugar

countryfied2011 · #81 10/16/12, 09:58 AM

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If you are on the Paleo diet you can't have apple butter anyway. It's loaded with sugar, and sugar isn't allowed.

not if it is made with honey and from what I have read of the food list...honey is in moderation/limited

After reading several websites etc, I gather that the Paleo Diet and other similar hunter/gather concepts is basically by perception/interpretation of meat,veggies, fruit and nuts. While some limit items, others completely take it off the food list--this is with vegatables, grains, dairy etc. So it is not strictly like the actual hunter/gathers imho. Same with vegetarian, etc.

Teri · #82 10/16/12, 10:37 AM

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But the main thing I wonder about is the cost of going wheat free! I think that cost /money is the main thing that keeps people eating the wrong things. You can make a lot of foods out of a sack of flour. But can you replace all those foods for someting good for you at the same cost? I am all for eating fruits and veggies but I just can't afford them as a main diet. Does anyone have lowcost/affordable exchanges for wheat and glutten?

I'm wondering about this as well. I cook for 6-10 people at once, with big appetites. Honestly, this kind of diet just doesn't seem very practical for me. I make most everything from scratch including whole wheat bread which we eat a lot of. Everyone is in good health. I'm working with a very tight budget.

snoozy · #83 10/16/12, 10:49 AM

If everyone is healthy, why change? Obviously, you're doing something right! I am a strong believer in "If it ain't broke, why fix it?"

My stepdaughter says being gluten free has helped her fibromyalgia and intestinal troubles massively. Meanwhile, other people I know who have gone off gluten have not seen enough benefit to be able to say it definitely has helped their various problems.

YuccaFlatsRanch · #84 10/16/12, 11:17 AM

"But the main thing I wonder about is the cost of going wheat free! I think that cost /money is the main thing that keeps people eating the wrong things. You can make a lot of foods out of a sack of flour. "

Yup - real food costs more than junk food. Go figure. The author does say that once you get off of the blood sugar ups and downs, you will eat when you are hungry and need food - not to replace crashed blood sugar. I have found when I am eating right that I forget to have regular meals. Eating becomes a "If I have too" vs "ruling" occurance.

"I make most everything from scratch including whole wheat bread which we eat a lot of. Everyone is in good health. I'm working with a very tight budget"

READ THE BOOK - I no longer care to subject either myself or my family to the ravages of wheat. If you think the author is fooling - when you get up first thing in the morning take your blood sugar BEFORE EATING. Then eat 2 slices of whole wheat toast - nothing else - take your blood sugar one hour later - your blood sugar will look like a diabetic. Whole wheat bread has a higher glycemic index than straight white sugar. Eating wheat is like riding a wheat roller coaster and this has nothing else to say about what GLUTEN is doing to your system. Read the section of Celiac disease - You don't have to have the symptoms of celiac disease to be affected - they can test your blood to see if you have the markers for the disease.

countryfied2011 · #85 10/16/12, 12:13 PM

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If you think the author is fooling

I cant speak for everyone on the topic but I don't believe the author is fooling about wheat for the most part. I just don't agree with everything he has stated(personal opinion)I just don't think it effects everyone the same just like not everyone who eats a diet of a lot of carbs etc is going to be diabetic. Both of my parents are diabetics, I have yet to have a high blood sugar count (56)and I eat way more then they both do. Not everyone is going to get cirrhosis of the liver from excessively drinking alcohol

We all process foods differently and while the book has some good food for thought people have to discern for themselves what is best for them and their family.

I have never eaten two slices of wheat toast and had a roller coaster ride, but I can eat bread, pasta, cookies cakes and be miserable by bedtime from stomach problems. But for me I think the benefits of getting off wheat will help my other ailments.

But everyone has to do whats best for themselves and their families and I can totally understand those who feel like wheat is not hurting them and cant afford to financially disregard it as a staple in their household. If a person physically and mentally is having problems(and yes I believe there is food that can affect us mentally)then wheat might be the answer, but to generalize that wheat is"killing" us all is pretty extreme.

Cliff · #86 10/16/12, 06:39 PM

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If a person physically and mentally is having problems(and yes I believe there is food that can affect us mentally)then wheat might be the answer, but to generalize that wheat is"killing" us all is pretty extreme.

Wheat is a major problem for both my sister and I. Besides for the physical problems it causes, it causes both of us to become very depressed if we get exposed. When you eat it all the time you don't connect a lot of the problems you're having to it. But when you have to completely eliminate it like we did all the peripheral issues it causes become really noticeable when you do get exposed.

YuccaFlatsRanch · #87 10/17/12, 03:25 PM

The single greatest scourge on mankind's health. Lets see - we will ruin your health and then sell you drugs to combat what we have done. Winners on both sides. It would be interesting to see how much cross investment has occurred between both factions (wheat food manufacturers and Big Pharma).

Alice In TX/MO · #88 10/17/12, 05:10 PM

I seriously doubt that the hybridizing of wheat was done by pharmaceutical companies. Just me.

unioncreek · #89 10/17/12, 05:14 PM

Conspiracy theory!

ErinP · #90 10/17/12, 05:34 PM

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Does anyone have lowcost/affordable exchanges for wheat and glutten?

Rice, corn, potatoes...Of course none of these are Paleo, though (not to mention the fact that they'll stick jack your blood sugar). But they are gluten-free.

YuccaFlatsRanch · #91 10/17/12, 06:50 PM

"I seriously doubt that the hybridizing of wheat was done by pharmaceutical companies. Just me. "

I guess it's JUST ME, but I surely remember in my statement that I wondered how much CROSS INVESTING one would find if one were to check each industries portfolio. Sometimes I get the feeling that I have been transported into last nights debate - the amount of miss-quoting being charged is about the same.

TheMartianChick · #92 10/17/12, 08:04 PM

I decided to be a guinea pig and try to go wheat free to see if it made me feel any differently. Today was day two...So far I haven't noticed any differences that I can attribute to the change. I am generally achy, though I jog and try to keep moving as much as possible to avoid the stiffness. We'll see what tomorrow brings... I'm not too sure as to how long I will last on this type of diet. The good thing is that it isn't low-carb! I dehydrate far too easily on those because I forget to drink.

YuccaFlatsRanch · #93 10/17/12, 08:24 PM

Wheat Free isn't carb free like Atkins, however the main part of the wheat free lifestyle is to cut your carbs significantly to prevent blood sugar spikes. READ THE BOOK.

newfieannie · #94 10/17/12, 08:56 PM

same as TMC. i have 60 hours or so in now. what i do have is an awful headache. i'm not sure if a person can have withdrawal symptoms same as with coffee or not . i would have had close to 15 slices of bread by this time. i'm sticking with it though and hope the headache will go away. ~Georgia.

Alice In TX/MO · #95 10/17/12, 08:59 PM

I don't eat rice or potatoes. Still eat some corn chips.

It's easier NOT to substitute stuff.

Just eat - Meat, Veggies, Nuts, Fruit.

Nothing processed. (other than corn chips because I have to have something to eat my guacamole on)

ChristieAcres · #96 10/17/12, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMartianChick

I decided to be a guinea pig and try to go wheat free to see if it made me feel any differently. Today was day two...So far I haven't noticed any differences that I can attribute to the change. I am generally achy, though I jog and try to keep moving as much as possible to avoid the stiffness. We'll see what tomorrow brings... I'm not too sure as to how long I will last on this type of diet. The good thing is that it isn't low-carb! I dehydrate far too easily on those because I forget to drink.

I noticed in about a week, huge difference in the way I felt (FMS &CFS). By week two, I started dropping weight. You want to see even more pronounced changes, go Paleo. DH dropped just under 30#s in just one month.

ChristieAcres · #97 10/17/12, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO

I don't eat rice or potatoes. Still eat some corn chips.

It's easier NOT to substitute stuff.

Just eat - Meat, Veggies, Nuts, Fruit.

Nothing processed. (other than corn chips because I have to have something to eat my guacamole on)

Yep, that simple, I'd just add to drink plenty of water. Drop all soda and fruit juices (exception...). DH and I both drink small quantities of my homemade organic cider. We also like cream in our coffee, and use only honey for sweetening (moderately).

Now, one has to cheat a bit, so I'd probably have to have tortilla chips with the rare guacomole, but a must!

countryfied2011 · #98 10/17/12, 10:01 PM

I am on day 5 and I have really noticed a difference in my fibromyalgia, also DH said this morning I dont look pregnant anymore. My bloating got so bad at times that I would have a hard time breathing. Haven't felt that way not once since cutting out the wheat. Rode two miles on my bicycle today and a mile the day before yesterday.

Warwalk · #99 10/17/12, 10:11 PM

I think the whole concept of going wheat free is great (giving up pasta, and bread, and beer, and etc etc... not so much). But wouldn't a person just be giving up one potential toxin for another? Vegetarians have numerous books on the dangers of meat consumption (but I still eat that), fish will drive up your levels of mercury, pesticides, and pcb's (but I eat those too). Still, I've been leaning toward the paleo diet for a long time, but it's really just been about personal preference in my food choices than anything... but if wheat is truly that bad I might buy the book and give it a go. (what could a couple of weeks hurt, right?)

unioncreek · #**100** 10/17/12, 11:22 PM

I don't think that one diet is any better than another. It's people need to eat in moderation. My son and DIL are o the paleo diet, they say they feel good, but don't have any energy. I told them they don't eat enough carbs, they said that wasn't the reasons. I challenged them to eat small amounts of pasta and/or bread for two weeks. They did and said they still feel as good as they were when they were just doing the paleo diet, but now had a lot more energy.

Bob