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10/14/12, 06:43 PM
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Simple, read the book!!! After my DH and I did, we went gluten free. He and I are a lot healthier, also, he dropped almost 30# s in just one month...think wheat belly loss. He weighs now what he did in high school! We also went Paleo, refer to above post.
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10/14/12, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO
Just don't buy flour. Any kind of flour.
Eat meat, veggies, nuts, and fruit. 
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10/14/12, 07:41 PM
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I am happy to say that I have no problem eating wheat, gluten, dairy, meat, soy...
You all talk as if EVERYBODY has problems with these things and as if EVERYBODY must give up these things.
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Snoozy, I used to be able to eat anything and would brag that I had a cast iron stomach. I also suffered with asthma from the time I was six years old. Due to side-effects from the asthma controlling drugs, I sought a way to get off the drugs. I was put on a raw vegan diet to cleanse/detox my body and stayed on this diet for four years. Never felt better in my life. Then I attempted to add things like beef, wheat, dairy back into my diet and boy did my body rebel!! I quickly discovered that your body can tolerate foods that are detrimental for a period of time, but eventually it will catch up to you.
Here's an analogy that may help explain it. If someone is meticulously clean and they drop a cookie on the floor, will it be obvious? YES!
If someone is a hoarder and their home is loaded up with trash and they drop a cookie on the floor, will it be obvious? No.
Well it's the same way with our bodies. If we keep our bodies clean by eating only organic whole foods, then try to eat McDonald's french fries, YOU WILL NOTICE something amiss. It's the same way with pharmaceuticals. Other than taking Advair 2x a week for asthma, I had been pharmaceutical free for 16 years. Last year, I had a rash break out on my arm. I went to a dermatologist and he wanted to give me some drug. I can't remember the name now, but I told the doc that I don't do drugs, and he said not to worry because it was very mild. He said they give it to teens for acne. Well, let me tell you, I reacted to it in a huge way! I was nauseous, had a wicked headache, dizzy - could not get out of bed, huge bruises started appearing all over my body. Why did I react so violently? Because my body is clean and not used to toxins, or in the case of this drug, poison! What scares the crap out of me is that they give this stuff to TEENS!!!
Anyway, everyone's body is different. If you can tolerate eating all these things, you are either very young or you are blessed with a phenomenal immune system. Enjoy it! I would!!
Hope my explanation helps in some small way.
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10/14/12, 10:14 PM
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I am 54, I eat a balanced diet, mostly made from scratch, I drink almost no carbonated beverages, no diet anything, no high fructose anything. And I take no drugs of any kind. I have no respiratory problems, I don't get flu shots...
I am currently 3 lbs overwieght, it is true -- from baklava every night on a trip to Turkey...
I am blessed with rugged genes, but a predilection to moderation, I think, is the real saving grace.
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10/15/12, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by snoozy
I am 54, I eat a balanced diet, mostly made from scratch, I drink almost no carbonated beverages, no diet anything, no high fructose anything. And I take no drugs of any kind. I have no respiratory problems, I don't get flu shots...
I am currently 3 lbs overwieght, it is true -- from baklava every night on a trip to Turkey...
I am blessed with rugged genes, but a predilection to moderation, I think, is the real saving grace.
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Hey Snoozy,
We have a lot in common. I'm almost the same age, drink no carbonated beverages, no diet anything, no HFCS. I no longer take drugs of any kind, and as long as I stay away from wheat and dairy - no respiratory problems.  I have never had a flu shot and never will if I can help it.  I am 3 lbs below the ideal weight for my height, and my DH lived in Turkey when he was in the service. I don't know what to say about my genes, but I do believe in moderation. And homeopathy helps too!!
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10/15/12, 06:02 AM
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Yes, I agree with you about homeopathy, too!
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10/15/12, 08:40 AM
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With all due respect to those who suffer from gluten related illness, celiac disease, here's an article that may provide some balance for this ongoing discussion. Not trying to provoke any argument, simply offering a more reasonable approach for those who may seem to promote what is becoming known as "wheatophobia" in the pop culture. (No, I don't grow wheat, nor am I a member of any wheat councils....just trying to promote some balance....) I do eat wheat and wheat products and suffer no ill effects from gluten issues. I would promote homestead growing of wheat and use of whole wheat products in the homestead diet, if one is immune from celiac disease....For a gluten-free approach to homestead food production, I would highly recommend Carol Deppe's book, The Resilient Gardener: Food Production and Self-Reliance in Uncertain Times.
Wheatophobia: Will Avoiding Wheat Really Improve Your Health? | Wellness Letter
Respectfully,
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10/15/12, 09:29 AM
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DH and I have been having problems for several weeks now with bloating, etc to the point of being miserable, for 3 days now I have cut out wheat products mainly bread, pasta, sweets(cakes, cookies etc). I love pasta any shape or form but I noticed in the past few months every time I ate it I swelled up(I can see why horses swell up eating wheat and die) There were days I thought I was going to have to call the vet on me. I am not saying I am going to quit wheat completely(a little flour in gravy is not going to kill me), but I feel like it has helped limiting my intake of it, at least my stomach thinks so.
A prime example of what we might eat in a day before I cut out the wheat products...
breakfast: meat, egg and toast or biscuit
Lunch: sandwich, chips
Dinner: meat with or without gravy or breading, usually grilled or baked seldom fried, veggies/salad, pasta or potatoes, bread of some type
snack--ice cream, cake or cookies, fruit etc, popcorn
Basically our meals were surrounded by wheat without realizing it.
I told DH if he had a biscuit for breakfast and sandwich for lunch, there would be no type of wheat product for supper...lol He can choose where he wants his bread but he doesnt get it with every meal. Popcorn and fruit has been our snacks. I also made some banana cookies, with no flour, just oats, dates, pecans,applesauce and bananas.. Last night we had baked chicken using instant potato flakes for breading...very tasty, butter beans, potato salad, no bread/no wheat. Yes, we had carbs but we didnt have any bloating and being miserable. Makes ya wonder~
Whether wheat is contributing factor to illness, obesity etc, I don't know but I think wheat and wheat products has been causing problems at this household..lol
edited to add, I have also lost 5lbs
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10/15/12, 06:09 PM
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READ THE BOOK - you will change your diet. I personally believe that wheat is the single greatest health scourge ever perpetrated on man - worse than tobacco or drugs.
And no I am not the author or the publisher.
And even if you don't eat bread, pastries, etc - READ LABELS - wheat is just about in everything.
Read The Book.
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10/15/12, 08:51 PM
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Buy food that does NOT have labels. Beef, chicken, pork, venison, fish, vegetables, nuts, fruit. If you buy real food, you don't have to worry about wheat in ANYTHING.
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10/15/12, 09:11 PM
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i can pretty well eat anything too. i am not overweight and take no drugs. nothing seems to bother me but i thought i would try it for awhile. i did have one slice of toast for breakfast. no more since and i would have had at least 5 by now. not sure what i'll have for breakfast tomorrow. probably an apple. it will take awhile to get use to it because i normally eat so much bread. i eat very little meat but i eat fish everyday. we'll see what happens and if i can stick to it. ~Georgia.
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10/15/12, 09:28 PM
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And even if you don't eat bread, pastries, etc - READ LABELS - wheat is just about in everything.
Read The Book
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I have read quite a bit of the book, some things I agree with and some things I don't. I would say that at least 80% of the food we eat is "real food" that we grow.
I think in any situation there can be extremes, and to me finding a healthy balance that works for both my husband and myself is what I am striving for. My DH loves a Mountain Dew and a Snickers occasionally, since he doesn't have sensitivities to either one I cant see denying him of those, every now and then (Although I think Mt Dew is one of the worse things he could drink..lol). I think it is great that there are those who only eat meat, veggies, fruits and nuts...but I don't believe it is for everyone, just like I dont think being a vegan is for everyone.
I love dairy products and I believe there are health benefits in those too. The key to anything imho is moderation, not over-indulgence, even an occasional big Mac is not going to kill someone..lol, unless you do have allergies etc.
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10/15/12, 10:05 PM
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newfieannie, I love toast with my homemade apple butter....I found a bread that is really good called Udi's White Sandwich Bread | Udi
Now I have only made toast with it so dont know how it would fair with sandwiches untoasted. It is kinda of expensive, it seems to be cheaper on their website but I found it at Publix.
Good Luck, I also order some pasta from Vitacost that comes with good recommendations. Should get it this week
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10/16/12, 07:26 AM
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I cut out wheat about a year ago (though I do have a few beers a week) and I feel a ton better. I have been eating the Paleo method (fruit, nuts, veggies, and lean proteins) and feel way better.
I wasn't fat at all before, but I did loose ten pounds after a month or so, which I am slowly putting back on in the form of muscle. My energy levels are way better and I feel a lot better. It has made a big difference.
Something I didn't expect - since being on the diet I have no longer needed my medication for a little bit of Seborrhoeic dermatitis around my eyebrows and nose. It wasn't bad, but I had to use topical medication every day. Now, as long as I stick to the diet, medication is not needed. Go figure.
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10/16/12, 08:50 AM
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The Wheat Belly book addresses the general inflammation reaction in the human body as a result of eating wheat and wheat products. A lot of folks have MUCH less arthritis, etc, too.
Easy to read article about reasons to give up grains:
http://nourishedkitchen.com/against-...ive-up-grains/
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10/16/12, 09:09 AM
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I really think cutting out the wheat is going to help with my fibromyalgia. I can already tell a difference during the day. Although I quit taking all medications about 2 weeks ago, I can tell just in the 4 days without the wheat actually it is 5 today, i dont have the aches and pains, hopefully when winter sets in(which is the worst time for me)it will make a big difference.
Question for those who are on the Paleo, I noticed in the canning section people have been making apple butter, what do you put the apple butter on if you are not eating bread, starch etc?
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10/16/12, 09:19 AM
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well i have 24 hours under my belt. i'm craving my home made bread but i wont touch it. i have had a can of mandarins and an apple so far. i'll have some carrots for lunch which i eat every day anyway. i have a roast on in the crockpot. i'm not sure how this is supposed to affect me since i am in such good shape as it is. i'll probably be able to fly in a month or so. if you dont hear from me after that i lost so much weight i faded away. ~Georgia.
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10/16/12, 09:22 AM
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But the main thing I wonder about is the cost of going wheat free! I think that cost /money is the main thing that keeps people eating the wrong things. You can make a lot of foods out of a sack of flour. But can you replace all those foods for someting good for you at the same cost? I am all for eating fruits and veggies but I just can't afford them as a main diet. Does anyone have lowcost/affordable exchanges for wheat and glutten?
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10/16/12, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by countryfied2011
I really think cutting out the wheat is going to help with my fibromyalgia. I can already tell a difference during the day. Although I quit taking all medications about 2 weeks ago, I can tell just in the 4 days without the wheat actually it is 5 today, i dont have the aches and pains, hopefully when winter sets in(which is the worst time for me)it will make a big difference.
Question for those who are on the Paleo, I noticed in the canning section people have been making apple butter, what do you put the apple butter on if you are not eating bread, starch etc?
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If you are on the Paleo diet you can't have apple butter anyway. It's loaded with sugar, and sugar isn't allowed.
The Paleo diet definitely takes some getting used to. When we go grocery shopping I look around and 95% of what I see, I can' eat. It is pretty much straight to the produce section for veggies and fruit, followed up by a visit to the meat department, then go and grab a bunch of eggs, cruise down the chip aisle and find the nuts and head to the register.
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10/16/12, 09:32 AM
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I have found the less wheat (carbs) I eat the less food I eat.
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