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My naturopathic doctor took me off wheat in 2004 and my asthma symptoms virtually disappeared. As long as I stay off wheat, I have no breathing issues. When I think of all the years of drugs to control asthma, only to find out it was actually a wheat allergy ...
I will definitely need to add this book to my collection! 
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I quit taking my Advair after 12 years just because I didn't want to be dependant on it. This may just be the push I need to quit the wheat.
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Wow.
I bought einkorn wheat berries and have them dehydrating after being soaked and sprouted right now. I was hoping to transition slowly. I am not surprised to hear wheat is like a drug to your body. I crave the carbs something awful. And homemade nut and seed crackers haven't been cutting it lately.
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10/11/12, 11:38 PM
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I quit taking my Advair after 12 years just because I didn't want to be dependant on it. This may just be the push I need to quit the wheat.
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After five or six years on Advair, the catalyst that motivated me to wean myself from Advair was finding out I had cataracts - which is one of the main side-effects. I did a 31-day juice fast in March of 2010, at the instruction of my ND, and have been pharma-free since.
Another concern I had with regard to being dependent upon Advair was what would I do when the SHTF? If I can't get my prescription filled, then I don't breathe. So becoming independent of any pharmaceuticals became a priority. By avoiding all the foods that trigger breathing issues, I have been doing very well. On occasion I cheat, like yesterday, I had a couple bites of cornbread. There is a supplement that I take that helps when my bronchials constrict. It's called Lung Care by Redd Remedies. Another thing that helps me considerably is drinking water with raw, unfiltered apple cider vinegar in it. I use a quart mason jar and put in 2 TBSP of Braggs Raw Unfiltered ACV, 2 TBSP of raw local honey, and 2 TBSP of organic fresh squeezed lemon juice. I sip on it throughout the day and it clears the mucous from the body, dissolves cellulite  and has a host of other benefits too long to list here.
Okay it's off to bed for me. Nitey nite ya'll.
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A weird phenomenon when going wheat free is that if you drink alcohol or take prescription narcotics (I have a scrip for Vicoden that I take for migraines once a month), it greatly amplifies the effect's of either one. It was the weirdest thing, I had to look it up and most people do experience the amplified effects if going grain free, I couldn't find a reason, just that it happens.
You have to wonder if it is because of the morphine like effects of wheat, like it somehow dulls those receptors or something along those lines? I feel like it certainly ties into the morphine/crack idea of wheat.
I bought wheat belly after seeing Alice's high recommendation a few months ago.
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10/12/12, 11:05 AM
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"Does the book have eating guide so you avoid and get off the addiction of wheat? "
yes there are recipes in the book, there is a cookbook and if you do a search for Wheat Belly there is a Blog where there are more recipes.
I worried about GRAVY - Holidays are coming up and well - gravy is a big part of turkey and stuffing. I am not one for the sweets other than pumpkin pie and I can happily have pumpkin custard. Well DW bought some coconut milk and coconut flour (no gluten) and made a chicken, mixed veggies and the gravy out of the flour and stock - served it over sweet potato. Although a little grainy (gritty), it was the best tasting gravy I have had in a long long time.
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10/12/12, 12:32 PM
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what does it say about home grown heirloom or organic wheat???
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10/12/12, 12:37 PM
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what does it say about home grown heirloom or organic wheat???
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I have read that heirloom wheat, i.e. wheat that has the longer stem and "old" wheat characteristics, is not harmful and is, in fact, healthy.
Organic is not going to make a difference if it is the short-stem.
Will try to make time later today to dig up the articles I was reading about heirloom wheats.
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Raw Vegans have recipes for "crackers" that are made with veggies and nuts and dehydrated that are very good. Here's one site that has a recipe for Sun Dried Tomato crackers that are really good with hummus and guacamole. Just have to have a dehydrator.
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My sister made chips out of dehydrated salsa. I don't know if she put anything else in, but I am going to work on a recipe of my own when I get finished with the garden.
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10/12/12, 01:11 PM
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"Does the book have eating guide so you avoid and get off the addiction of wheat? "
yes there are recipes in the book, there is a cookbook and if you do a search for Wheat Belly there is a Blog where there are more recipes.
I worried about GRAVY - Holidays are coming up and well - gravy is a big part of turkey and stuffing. I am not one for the sweets other than pumpkin pie and I can happily have pumpkin custard. Well DW bought some coconut milk and coconut flour (no gluten) and made a chicken, mixed veggies and the gravy out of the flour and stock - served it over sweet potato. Although a little grainy (gritty), it was the best tasting gravy I have had in a long long time.
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I wonder if rice flour would work well as a thickener - or is rice not considered a good food?
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10/12/12, 01:40 PM
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If they are in your diet, you can thicken gravy with rice flour, corn starch, or dehydrated mashed potato flakes.
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10/12/12, 08:39 PM
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"I have read that heirloom wheat, i.e. wheat that has the longer stem and "old" wheat characteristics, is not harmful and is, in fact, healthy."
Author says wheat is wheat. Pretty hard to tell one from another.
Author says avoid all items with GLUTEN too. You need to read what Gluten does to ravage the human body. Gluten after being digested is being investigated as a reason for things like Lupus and other autoimmune diseases. The book is truly scary. If 1/10th of the book is correct it's still scary. The main scary part of Gluten digestion is Gliadin. Gliadin in the small intestine is one of the only substances that can "unlock" the intercellular spaces between the cell/capillary boundry allowing unwanted molecules to pass from the small intestine directly into the blood stream. These molecules affect the antigen/antibody response of the body and may be what causes the body to make antibodies that cause auto immune diseases.
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Rice is allowed in small amounts. Corn is a grain, not allowed in Paleo. We don't eat potatoes, either.
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I talked to a friend who is a wheat breeder and he said that the protein responsible for the problem was one that was a result of cross breeding. He also said the jury was still out if this is true. He said you have to look at who will benefit from the research. He also said the same thing about milk that through breeding and selection of high producing cows that they lost a grade of milk that lactose intolerant people can drink. I'd have to ask him again For the info.
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We read that book, also started eating Paleo Style, which is Gluten and Sugar Free, Organic, and we both are at our proper weights. I lent a friend, who has Crohn's and Celiac Disease, my Paleo Lifestyle book. She changed her diet, is much healthier, and lost 10#s in one month.
I have seen amazing changes in everyone who goes Paleo!
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Originally Posted by YuccaFlatsRanch
"I have read that heirloom wheat, i.e. wheat that has the longer stem and "old" wheat characteristics, is not harmful and is, in fact, healthy."
Author says wheat is wheat. Pretty hard to tell one from another.
Author says avoid all items with GLUTEN too. You need to read what Gluten does to ravage the human body. Gluten after being digested is being investigated as a reason for things like Lupus and other autoimmune diseases. The book is truly scary. If 1/10th of the book is correct it's still scary. The main scary part of Gluten digestion is Gliadin. Gliadin in the small intestine is one of the only substances that can "unlock" the intercellular spaces between the cell/capillary boundry allowing unwanted molecules to pass from the small intestine directly into the blood stream. These molecules affect the antigen/antibody response of the body and may be what causes the body to make antibodies that cause auto immune diseases.
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From multiple sources, the consensus was that heirloom wheat isn't harmful, but should be consumed in limited amounts.
Although we eat Paleo, we do modify it based on our activity levels, and other research. An example would be drinking Kefir Smoothies, which aren't on the list. Also, we use honey, in limited amounts.
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10/13/12, 06:28 AM
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Because I have dairy goats and thus a source of raw milk, yogurt, and cheese, my Paleo diet includes those. Goats have been domesticated for thousands of years, so I figure that my ancestors had goat milk.
The problem with the Standard American Diet (SAD) is that it's not real food any more.
If you are eating cereal for breakfast, fast food for lunch, and Hamburger Helper for supper, Hostess Ding Dongs for dessert, and washed down with soft drinks..... you haven't had any real food all day.
Real food is what the cavemen could catch or pick. Meat, veggies, fruit, nuts. It's SO easy to make eating food decisions!
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10/13/12, 11:38 AM
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you said a mouthful there alice!! how ironic, the 'standard american diet' is SAD. hehe. it surely is sad indeed. the thread about school lunches, how can they call that a lunch? kids are growing and needing good fuel, not sugar coated grease bombs. its so very sad.
not long ago I just had plant foods for a week or 2. I was soaring with energy, which I am usually lacking majorly. time to do that again. my sweet tooth was near gone, and that is one thing that has been a serious problem for years, all my years!
time to go back on that. I felt SUPER. and it was easy. but it was not cheap.
even with making my own bread, if I ate it, I *always* had the burps, and well, not to be gross, but it was a completely wheaty burp. that alone tells me my body isn't so happy with that. and I only used whole grains, no white.
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10/13/12, 11:43 AM
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From multiple sources, the consensus was that heirloom wheat isn't harmful, but should be consumed in limited amounts.
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I was wondering about that. About 6-7 years ago as I was learning about how tainted our food really is now, I heard people speaking of issues with wheat and just didn't understand since-after reading the bible all those years ago-wheat seemed to be so common. Now I understand that the wheat today is nothing like it was but surely -anciet wheat couldn't have been nearly as toxic as it is now.
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10/13/12, 02:31 PM
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Wheat has one of the only genetics where if you cross one wheat with another it isn't a hybrid of both. What happens is that when you combine one species of wheat (say one with 12 chromosomes) with one that has 14 chromosomes you get a wheat that has 26 chromosomes and is an entirely different plant. You really need to read the book to be completely scared and I am. My degrees are in Microbiology with minors in genetics and this is all new to me. As I said - scary. Read the book.
The sections about wheat gluten are the really scary parts. That and the reading of labels in the store. Tomato soup has wheat in it, so do all cream soups. You can't get away from the stuff. Meat, eggs, veggies and fruit. Almost nothing processed. Makes a mockery of food storage where wheat is a large part of what is stored. However, if I have to use food storage, TS will have hit the fan anyway so it may be moot.
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