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Soupmaker · #41 09/27/12, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wanda

LFG The hay is selling for market price. When the market is flooded with low priced hay I never hear the buyers complaining about the price!

Hay should be sold cheap every year.

bruce2288 · #42 09/27/12, 06:01 PM

A commodity is worth what someone is willing to pay. It changes. I have sold 500lb steers from $2.00/lb to $.50/lb. Fat lambs in a similar spread. Corn from !.85 to $6.50.

It seems strange that if an individual makes a good profit it is wonderful, but if someone else is making a good profit it is gougeing. If one does not wish to dependant on the price of corn or hay, then grow your own or find an alternative.

collegeboundgal · #43 09/27/12, 06:19 PM

ahhhh, and that's the rub. you'd think that hay farmers would be making bookoo bucks, but really, we're not. we have the same bills to pay this yr, and a h3!! of a lot less hay to sale. so we have to make the difference up somewhere.
sorry, but get your own hay equpment, land, and time and make your own hay if you don't like the price...

Soupmaker · #44 09/27/12, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by collegeboundgal

ahhhh, and that's the rub. you'd think that hay farmers would be making bookoo bucks, but really, we're not. we have the same bills to pay this yr, and a h3!! of a lot less hay to sale. so we have to make the difference up somewhere.
sorry, but get your own hay equpment, land, and time and make your own hay if you don't like the price...

+1

BTW LFG Nobody is getting triple for their hay. Even double is a real stretch.

Still trying to see how $30 pigs are gouging.

haypoint · #45 09/27/12, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by collegeboundgal

ahhhh, and that's the rub. you'd think that hay farmers would be making bookoo bucks, but really, we're not. we have the same bills to pay this yr, and a h3!! of a lot less hay to sale. so we have to make the difference up somewhere.
sorry, but get your own hay equpment, land, and time and make your own hay if you don't like the price...

Just human nature. if you are buying hay, it seem like that hay jumped into the barn by itself and the farmer is getting rich.
just like rental property. Renters think the Landloard just sits there and watches the rent money pour in, not understanding the costs that eat up most of the rent.

lonelyfarmgirl · #46 09/27/12, 07:36 PM

I never said anything about 30$ pigs, so dont put words in my mouth, I simply answered a question about price gouging and hay. Our hay supplier for the past two years held his price regardless of the fact that big squares were bringing 300$ a ton at the auction. Even now, he only raised his price 5$ a bale this year, he just doesn't have the quantity to sell he did last year, yet his price remains consistant. He didn't double it simply because he has less.

Next year when no one has pigs but us, we won't double our price simply because supply is low. Look on craigslist. Camalids, goats and poultry of all kinds, pigs, sheep, horses, etc.. Livestock everywhere at rock bottom prices. The only thing that isn't dropping in price is cattle, and no one is buying. Also notice that small squares are suddenly between 7 and 15$ EACH. Thats double and triple priced, sorry.

and FYI collegeboundgal, if you've been on this forum for any length of time at all, you would know the terrible mess my family dealt with over the past two years concerning the frivolous lawsuit we were sucked into in which we lost our hay ground through no fault of our own, which was shortly after losing 11 pregnant cows, a bull and 2 steers to bad hay we bought. We've had no choice but to purchase in hay, and the prices are absurd, and right now, its impossible to find reasonable. It was a terrible injustice and we have and are still suffering greatly as a result. Don't think for one minute I don't understand the cost of farming. Thanks for reminding me.

Soupmaker · #47 09/27/12, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lonelyfarmgirl

I never said anything about 30$ pigs, so dont put words in my mouth, I simply answered a question about price gouging and hay. Our hay supplier for the past two years held his price regardless of the fact that big squares were bringing 300$ a ton at the auction. Even now, he only raised his price 5$ a bale this year, he just doesn't have the quantity to sell he did last year, yet his price remains consistant. He didn't double it simply because he has less.

Nobody said you said anything aboot $30 pigs.

I have a feeling you are not buying the same kind of hay that brings $300 a ton.

Even 300 hay isn't double of what it was last year.

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Next year when no one has pigs but us, we won't double our price simply because supply is low. Look on craigslist. Camalids, goats and poultry of all kinds, pigs, sheep, horses, etc.. Livestock everywhere at rock bottom prices. The only thing that isn't dropping in price is cattle, and no one is buying. Also notice that small squares are suddenly between 7 and 15$ EACH. Thats double and triple priced, sorry.

Asking and getting are two different things.

Comparing one "per bale" price to another don't make much sense either.

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The only thing that isn't dropping in price is cattle, and no one is buying.

That don't make any sense.

Does that mean my neighbor didn't sell his 6.5 weight feeder calves for $1.55 a pound?

bruce2288 · #48 09/28/12, 10:42 AM

Lonely farmgirl, Fat hogs are now selling for 44-50cents/lb, so 250 hog would cost $125. Chargeing $100 for a 10week old feeder pig would be seen by some as price gougeing. Why don't you give your customers a break and sell for $50? Because you feel you can get the $100. yet you expect hay producers to sell under the prevailing price for hay? One set of conduct applies to you and another to everyone else?

Nevada · #49 09/28/12, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

Ya really I will be buying all sorts of grain this winter to fatten up my steer for next spring butchering time. Not much grass in the winter, and with hay double the price from last year so is grain. LOL

Perfect example of the economic impact of climate change.

lonelyfarmgirl · #50 09/28/12, 12:36 PM

100$ is the price I always sell for, regardless of the market. If someone wants to come here with cash in hand and make me an offer, we will talk. I always listen to offers.
I can also claim no corn, no soy, no commercial feed, no GMO. Not many others can say that. Makes them worth more. I don't raise the price when the market skyrockets and I don't lower when the market dumps. At least I'm consistent.

lonelyfarmgirl · #51 09/28/12, 05:14 PM

Good for you. Hand out your list of reasons to anyone who wants to see it. When someone sells hay in june for 3.50 a bale or 35 a bale and suddenly in september, the same hay is 15 a bale and 80-100 a bale, yep thats price doubling or tripling. You can say its not happening, but I see the ads everyday, yes everyday in Wisconsin.

I never criticized you for your price of hay. I just posted pigs for sale. You seem to prefer causing trouble. Feel free to continue, I'm done here.

Paquebot · #52 09/28/12, 06:04 PM

Ever since the hay thread started, I've been following the Craigslist for this part of the state. I saw a lot of price variations but usually the higher ones were priced according to quality. $3 canary grass popup bales vs. $30 600# round bales would be apples to oranges. For those wanting to know the facts, check out madison farm & garden - by owner classifieds - craigslist

Martin

Big Dave · #53 09/28/12, 07:34 PM

How did this post go to hay? Free BACON SAUSAGE AND HAM pm Big Dave you pick it up.

Paquebot · #54 09/28/12, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dave

How did this post go to hay? Free BACON SAUSAGE AND HAM pm Big Dave you pick it up.

Find someone with a reefer headed this way. I could probably match Andy Zimmern for certain taste tolerances!

If you want to find more about feeder pig prices around here, varies by size and breed. May be $25, may be $85.

madison all for sale / wanted classifieds "feeder=pigs" - craigslist

Martin

rockhound · #55 09/28/12, 09:50 PM

Wild hogs are tearing up good topsoil in many states. Shortage of pork? I don't think of it as a shortage. Misplaced maybe.

chester5731 · #56 10/01/12, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Soupmaker

+1

BTW LFG Nobody is getting triple for their hay. Even double is a real stretch.

Still trying to see how $30 pigs are gouging.

The hay that was $3.00 last year is $8.00 this year. Same hay, not any better quality. I would say that is between double and triple. My philosophy is I will sell animals before I pay that.

By the way, the beef everyone else is selling for $2.00-$2.50 per pound hanging weight I am still selling for $1.80.