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09/26/12, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lamoncha lover
downhome.and what discretion would you advise?
the sound may have traveled to her property line..but no bullets crossed out of ours.Hubby took a total of 14 shots. It was not night, bedtime or ssiesta time.what do you think we could do to bebetter neighbors?
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When we do a shoot on our place and have friends over we've gone through 5,000+ rounds in a day. We have a short range for handguns and shotguns plus a long range for rifles.
To be better neighbors? Invite em over to shoot with you.
I wouldn't get too bent out of shape over your neighbor.
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09/26/12, 03:48 PM
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That's what I thought too. So you need to shoot more often, to help the neighbor's goats get used to it.
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Exactly. I shoot all the time and my goats will walk right up to me while I'm shooting.
The only animal I have that has never got used to it was my dog.
My cat will hang out with me while I'm pistol shooting.
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09/26/12, 03:56 PM
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Neighbors shooting in the city; call the police! Neighbors shooting in the country get used to it ! We have many new neighbors in their million dollar homes that never used to be here. I tell them when they complain about shooting during hunting season, or the smell of manure in the spring or the rank smell of a male goat during rutting season or a rooster crowing at dawn; that this is what happens in the country. Some people can't adjust and need to go back to the city!
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09/26/12, 04:09 PM
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You need a much louder firearm. Something that rattles your neighbor's windows.
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09/26/12, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Darren
You need a much louder firearm. Something that rattles your neighbor's windows.
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some body out here has a gun that pretty much does that--scares the carp out of me every time  . my neighbors all shoot as do we sometimes......the only thing that i wonder about is how do they afford to shoot like that  . some days its all day long but i am never worried about it at all, they need to come and get to know you guys. who knows maybe they were waiting for an invite???
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09/26/12, 05:01 PM
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Seems like theres a lot of chest thumping its my right sorta stuff going on here.
First off the Op needs to realize with such a tiny place that they ARE tresspassing. the sound is going over there,if it wasnt they wouldnt know and complain,so all that nonsence about you can do anything you want on your own land is bull . Your "stuff isnt staying on your place.
The Op seems to realize theres a problem building up,is worried about more neighbors being this way. and wants to take steps to be able to Keep their rights.
Id bring the neighbor over and show them how your range is laid out to ensure the bullets land in a safe place...thats their biggest worry. Then Id take steps to reduce the noise signature .Berms plantings and if you leagally can noise supressers.
Nope you dont have to.
BUT by doing this stuff now you might save yourself a LOT of trouble down the line.
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09/26/12, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in Ohio
When we do a shoot on our place and have friends over we've gone through 5,000+ rounds in a day. We have a short range for handguns and shotguns plus a long range for rifles.
To be better neighbors? Invite em over to shoot with you.
I wouldn't get too bent out of shape over your neighbor.
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I would not like you to be my neighbor. I enjoy the quiet. If I bought property next to a train track that had a train going by 20 times a day, I'd see the train tracks and trains and avoid that property. But if I select a place far from neighbors and the neighboring property turns out to be an amateur shooting range I'd be upset.
This really isn't an issue of rights. yup, you have the right. But in most interactions like this, a more important law of nature should be remembered, "Push comes to shove." If you think you can aggravate your neighbor, or increase the aggravation as some suggest, you don't know diddly about human nature.
Exersize your rights to shoot into the woods. But then you may have to start locking every gate and door on the place. You might notice your tires getting slow leaks. Eventually the "Push comes to shove" kicks in, so you and your spouse might need to take turns watching your stuff. Forget about leaving your property unguarded. When pushed far enough, people get back at enemies. Yours may be bold and confront you or cowardly poison your hunting dog.
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09/26/12, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by haypoint
I would not like you to be my neighbor. I enjoy the quiet. If I bought property next to a train track that had a train going by 20 times a day, I'd see the train tracks and trains and avoid that property. But if I select a place far from neighbors and the neighboring property turns out to be an amateur shooting range I'd be upset.
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would you be upset if your neighbors had a wood yard and you hear the buzz of chain saws all day long also
or the neighbors used heavy equipment a lot
or did one of the many very legal activities that would cause noise to be heard on on your land
the op should probably do something to help with the noise if they shoot every day but an afternoon of shooting weekly or every other week is really not much different than mowing your lawn or cutting fire wood
the main thing is set up a backstop be safe show them your safe and do it during reasonable hours
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09/26/12, 06:49 PM
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would you be upset if your neighbors had a wood yard and you hear the buzz of chain saws all day long also
or the neighbors used heavy equipment a lot
or did one of the many very legal activities that would cause noise to be heard on on your land
the op should probably do something to help with the noise if they shoot every day but an afternoon of shooting weekly or every other week is really not much different than mowing your lawn or cutting fire wood
the main thing is set up a backstop be safe show them your safe and do it during reasonable hours
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Regardless whether I liked it or not, it would not be my business. This is one of those urban ideas that is being brought to the country that a person has any right to decide what a neighbor does legally on his land. If one wants to live like this he should move to a covented community. My neighbors have chicken houses approximately 40 acres from me. It can get a lil thick at times and the flies can be a nuisance when the wind is right. BUT, their operation is totally legal and they do it on their land so its just my luck that they built there and I leave them be as they do me. People spread chicken fertilizer on their fields around here. It stinks to high heaven for a couple weeks. A recent transplant here was raising heck about it recently. I basically told them that they moved to the country and the country can be smelly, loud, and difficult at times but it was that way when they moved and they shouldn't try to change it to suit their idea of what the country is. Same person was complaining when some land was bought next to them and then clear cut. I asked if they wanted to be able to not have it cut, they should have bought the land themselves. As I have grown up here the influx of "city dwellers" over the last ten or so years has really irked me. Would not have been so bad if they didnt try to turn the country into some sort of Disneyland and tell people what they "ought" to do on their own land. As of late I have been feeling alot like the old frontiersmen felt when the land they settled filled up with cityfolk from the east....time to cross that next river. Sadly there aint much else place to go that don't have the same problems.
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09/26/12, 06:56 PM
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Be respectful to your neighbor and use a shooting range. Hearing guns going off at odd times is very nerve racking for a lot of people.
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09/26/12, 07:09 PM
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I definitely agree that you should be courteous to your neighbors but some of you are getting carried away. We have great neighbors and we all get along even though we all target shoot, we all hunt, all have tractors and machinery operating at times, and we all have livestock that makes sound and smells.
40 acres is too small to target practice? Good grief, if you like the quiet that much that it would bother you that country folks might target practice now and again move to Antarctica. Luckily where we are, the neighbors will stop by and vice versa if they hear a different sounding weapon just to see what you lucked into.
The same sanctimonious ones complaining about target practicing and 4 wheelers think nothing about the noise running their tractors or other equipment makes or the noise and smells their livestock makes. We have cattle and chickens including a rooster, we have several tractors, we have a couple of 4 wheelers, we target practice and run chain saws, get over it.
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09/26/12, 07:21 PM
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Buy a big boom box and blast some rap music back their way
see if they appreciate that.
Me, I shoot whenever I feel like it, so does everyone else.
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09/26/12, 07:30 PM
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People who are upset by gunfire should not move to the country. Or downtown New Orleans
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09/26/12, 09:03 PM
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Nobody around here would even much notice if you ripped off 30 rounds.
On full auto...
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09/26/12, 09:41 PM
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Neighbors
well , neighbors ought to try and get along if they can .
most times you can , sometimes you can't .
I worked a swing shift for years , had a neighbor that would mow his yard every 2 days at 9:am in the morning . he had a big yard , btw .
When I was on the day shift , or evening shift , the noise didn't bother me .
But when I was working the 'gravyard shift' , it did . about the time I went to bed , he'd start mowing , , it kept me awake . .
so , in an effort to keep the peace , ( and get some sleep ) I gave my neighbor my 'shift schedule' and asked him not to mow so early when I was working nights . . explained in a nice way that I couldn't sleep with his loud mower running , maybe he could wait until the evening hours to mow . .
It made him mad , said he'd mow his yard whenever he wanted to , and it was my problem , not his . . .
Well , I thought about it for a few days , and the next time I worked evenings , ( got off at !2:00 Midnight ) , when I got home , I watched tv for an hour or so , fixed a bite to eat , like I always do , but instead of going to bed , I went out to my shed [U] , took the muffler off my lawn mower [/U], cut my big outdoor lights on , and started mowing my yard , at 2:AM in the morning . . .
It wasn't 5 minutes before he came storming out his door , quite upset , actually ,  seems I had woke him up . . .
Long story made short , we sort of came to an 'understanding' that night .
When I worked nights , he mowed his yard in the evening .
I put the muffler back on, and never mowed my lawn at 2:am again .
We never had a cross word after that , we worked it out , and I'm hoping that you and your neighbors will find common ground as well .
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09/26/12, 10:45 PM
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I love to shoot. I do it many times a year. I am sure it sounds like Gettysburg. I do it without a second thought about what the neighbors or their animals might think. But I do it for a reason.
My neighbors love to shoot. They do it all the time. They do it when I am trying to enjoy an otherwise peaceful evening. Sometimes I hate it. Sometimes it sucks. But I am sure they do it for the same reason. I love my neighbors.
Now if anyone thinks they are going to use my land for joyriding, they are going to find me with a machete whacking away at their tires.
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09/27/12, 01:39 AM
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.... If you want the freedom to keep goats, you have to be willing to put up with the other freedoms that come with it. Otherwise, move to some fancy gated community.
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Whew! It's late at night, and I'm tired and reading these posts too fast, lol! I misread that last lil line as "...otherwise move to some fancy GOATED community."
Lol, imagine that! (giggle) Then again...maybe I wasn't really that far off from the mark?)
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09/27/12, 01:52 AM
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I just read in our paper today that the local vet got shot in the back while he was riding his 4 wheeler on his property by his neighbors while they were target shooting. It was ruled an accident, but that doesn't make him any less shot. Just sayin. A bullet can stray.
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09/27/12, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by oregon woodsmok
A lot depends upon where you are shooting. If you are just firing into the woods without any knowledge of where the bullets will end up, you are seriously in the wrong. Legally, morally, and ethically wrong.
If you've got a good solid backstop to your target where there is no question about where each and every bullet will end up and if it is legal to shoot in your area, then you are OK.
Your neighbor is probably worried as much about her goats being shot as she is about the noise. Explain to her that you are only shooting at targets with a safe backdrop so that no wild bullets are flying (if that is true)...
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That's what I would do. I would also offer to let them know when I would be shooting a few rounds so they can do whatever is needed to help their animals acclimate to their rural lifestyle. Really, the OP's occasional 14 rounds is not excessive. I hear almost that much every day during hunting seasons.
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09/27/12, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Calhoon
well , neighbors ought to try and get along if they can .
most times you can , sometimes you can't .
I worked a swing shift for years , had a neighbor that would mow his yard every 2 days at 9:am in the morning . he had a big yard , btw .
When I was on the day shift , or evening shift , the noise didn't bother me .
But when I was working the 'gravyard shift' , it did . about the time I went to bed , he'd start mowing , , it kept me awake . .
so , in an effort to keep the peace , ( and get some sleep ) I gave my neighbor my 'shift schedule' and asked him not to mow so early when I was working nights . . explained in a nice way that I couldn't sleep with his loud mower running , maybe he could wait until the evening hours to mow . .
It made him mad , said he'd mow his yard whenever he wanted to , and it was my problem , not his . . .
Well , I thought about it for a few days , and the next time I worked evenings , ( got off at !2:00 Midnight ) , when I got home , I watched tv for an hour or so , fixed a bite to eat , like I always do , but instead of going to bed , I went out to my shed [U] , took the muffler off my lawn mower [/U], cut my big outdoor lights on , and started mowing my yard , at 2:AM in the morning . . .
It wasn't 5 minutes before he came storming out his door , quite upset , actually ,  seems I had woke him up . . .
Long story made short , we sort of came to an 'understanding' that night .
When I worked nights , he mowed his yard in the evening .
I put the muffler back on, and never mowed my lawn at 2:am again .
We never had a cross word after that , we worked it out , and I'm hoping that you and your neighbors will find common ground as well .
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Exactly!
In this case you were able to work it out. But everyone should be aware that this could also turn into a "push to shove" situation. Your neighbor could have taken the muffler off his mower and mowed daily when you were trying to sleep and call the cops on your 2am mowing. Most places have rules on night time racket. I'm glad he got the point and didn't take it to the next level.
So, when you get to thinking, "I'll show him...." think about how he'll respond and figure out if you want to go that route.
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