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09/21/12, 08:53 AM
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Re: Definition of Redneck
I was taught and always thought that one should try to see the good in people and keep negative comments to one's self. Many of these so-called rednecks are just people from a different social/economic background than myself. When I remember that these people are just different good, bad, etc mostly disappears.
As far as craigslist, as a anarcho-capitalist I think it is one of the greatest things ever invented. Two people can engage in mutually beneficial commerce without an all-knowing/all-seeing third party being involved.
Just last night I bought a nearly new looking chipper/shredder for $100 from a older gentleman who is looking to clear out some space in his garage.
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09/21/12, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pheasantplucker
without specifying the door's dimensions? Duh!
I also notice lots of folks advertise stuff that appears to be junk...no effort to clean up the item to make it as presentable as possible and then they always say something like "needs a new belt...an easy fix"...Well if it is an easy fix, why didn't they do it so it runs or operates? Are people that unmotivated? 
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1. Some people are uncomfortable posting on Craigslist and inadvertently leave out obvious important information. They may forget and not now how to get back in and edit their post.
2. Common sense is not common anymore. Anyone can post on Craigslist.
The ones that really irk me are the ads that specifically say to call them and then leave no phone number, or email them and the link does not work.
Overall, I really appreciate Craigslist, even with all the general public that posts there. I've sold and bought some great deals on there over the years. ...so call/email and get your measurements.
PS. I'm sorry your thread has been hijacked. It is likely a conspiracy by the one(s) who posted the CL ad for the door w/o measurements.
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09/21/12, 09:08 AM
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Dang. I really derailed this thread. Sorry Laura. I'll give an example of a person I knew. I worked at a gun shop at the time and a regular customer was a union guy. He was either a plumber or welder, dont remember which. Anyway, every time he came in the shop he had some worn boots, overalls and usually a camo t-shirt. He was a big guy, scruffy looking and would probably quickly be labeled a redneck. He loaded his own ammo and had expensive taste in guns. Something I didn't find out til later was he was also a big fan of koi and had tens if thousands of dollars in his koi setup. So while be rough and the edges he still had a degree of class. I think that'd probably be the biggest difference between rednecks amd white/trailer trash. Some class vs no class.
I don't really agree with the dictionary definitions besides those that use the historical ones. Rednecks can be educated, aren't always racist or bigots, etc.
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09/21/12, 09:19 AM
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If you think the folks on craigslist are backwards, try out your local classifieds. The ability to use a computer is in and of its self, a filter, plus comes with the benefit of not being limited to 20 words, pictures, and ability to be taken down after the item is sold. I gave up on the local classifieds after 90% of my calls were answered with "SOLD".
I love craigslist, I have bought and sold tons of farm and household items with about a 90%+ satisfaction rate. Without it, I would probably be forced to buy new, because I don't have the time to tour the county looking for what ever I want sitting in someone's front yard.
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09/21/12, 09:58 AM
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The bigest reason for the OPs complaint is simply
IGNORANCE.
Now thats not a insult...honest.
Grandma got a new door she knows the carpenter went down to the store and got a new one the same as the electrician got a new wall socket.
It just makes scence to her they both come in a standard size.
Even if they dont she would know what the sizes are.
I think its the same for the rest of that grage full of stuff people are gettin rid of.
Will it damage it if I wash it? perhaps its better just to sell it first and let someone that knows take care of it.
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09/21/12, 10:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fantasymaker
The bigest reason for the OPs complaint is simply
IGNORANCE.
Now thats not a insult...honest.
Grandma got a new door she knows the carpenter went down to the store and got a new one the same as the electrician got a new wall socket.
It just makes scence to her they both come in a standard size.
Even if they dont she would know what the sizes are.
I think its the same for the rest of that grage full of stuff people are gettin rid of.
Will it damage it if I wash it? perhaps its better just to sell it first and let someone that knows take care of it.
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True that. The best deals often come from those who do not know what they have...
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09/21/12, 01:30 PM
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The ones that drive me wild are :" I've got a XTZ-3626 in great shape. Must sell right away. $500." with no hint as what it is or "I've got some fence for sale, best offer."with no hint on what kind or how much fence or " I have 300 heavy T posts for sale." with no hint on how tall or how much.
I've learned there is a reason someone is selling " needs a belt, needs a battery, needs a starter, needs a tuneup." Because as soon as you fix that you'll learn there's a lot more wrong with it.
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09/21/12, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mom in oklahoma
adjective
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Also, red-necked . narrow, prejudiced, or reactionary:
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Aha.... Now I know where NPR gets its title!
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09/21/12, 02:32 PM
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Trash is trash, doesn't matter where they are from. Even rich people can be trash.
Laura, I bet if you would have had your hand on a bottle of pepper spray he would have been a lot less appreciative.
As for craigslist ads, yeah for free I can see giving away something that might not be in the best condition like a chainsaw that needs a new blade and tune, trashed mowers that have still usable parts, etc. But the free tree if you cut it down ones crack me up. I was nice and emailed who's tree was laying on the electric lines and let them know that it would be taken down for free by the electric company.
I have seen ads where people want to sell torn up couches, pee stained mattresses, wrecked cars with blown engines for a little under book value, and so on.
The worst are the ones that are trying to sell stuff in the wanted section. IMO those people are plain jerks.
Have you seen the ads where people are selling something 10 years old for a few bucks less than it costs new in the store? For Pete's sake, if I was going to spend that much money I would buy it from the store and get the mfg warranty. Why pay new prices for your old worn out beat up crap?
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09/21/12, 03:41 PM
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Been searching for a horse. The horse ads can be hystirical, very funny!! LOL
Like.......Horse for sale, extremely beautiful, wonderful mover, must sell quickly. Must call xxx-xxxx do not have computer.
No picture, no price, no size, no color, no age. Why bother!!LOL
Alice in Virginia
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09/21/12, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ||Downhome||
Rednecks where coal miners that fought to unionize the mines.
They wore a red bandanna to show which side they where on.
the term can and is applied to their descendents.
Which I am One.
My Grandfather was the last miner though.
I try not to use trailer trash either cause not everyone in trailers is white trash.
I should of used that term instead. but again a stereo typical term.
And it seems all three and the term hillbilly all blur together for most folks that either forgot where they come from or are not familiar with such.
I think a good bit comes from the clannish ways.
which helped to establish the backwoods backward thing.
Many people do not understand.
then you had Artistic license on thing like the Hatfield and Mccoys and various other things.
These things where big storys and embellished on and still are.
My Family came Up from NC into Virgina and slowly spread across into what now is WV, but There is a Town in Virgina called Duty Virginia. Many Duty Cemeteries. they married in to many other large family's. Including the Hatfield's and Mccoy's and many others. I have many distant family members all through those parts. Tennessee,Kentucky,Wv,Virginia. Have few close relation there two.
Now when you get to looking at Family lines I can see how a outsider would be confused. Many of the names are past along that is custom.
Then Family's often intermarried. not blood to blood but multiple marriages between familys.
For instance My dad has a double cousin, my GF married one sister and his Brother married the other.
So I sort of think that is how the inbred stereotype got started.
But people like to poke fun at names two. My father would be know as Jimmy Joe if you where to use his Familiar name. Another cousin would be Billy Bob.
But ya the way those who misuse such a proud title as Redneck do nothing more then show their ignorance.
With out those folks that Inhabited the hills and hollers , we would more then likely still be a British commonwealth.
Laura I wasn't snappin on ya either just a bit frustrated with the Idiots that post around here and then saw the thread.
I know many people misuse the words.
I'm know my heritage and proud of what my Ancestors have accomplished here.
I'm also protective of it.
Again Proud and try to live up to the examples they set.
So sorry if I put ya on point.
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THAT is a fabulous explanation!!
So, a better word for me to use, properly, would have been Jack Wagon instead of "red neck".
I completely appreciate you taking the time to explain this to me!!
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. Laura, I bet if you would have had your hand on a bottle of pepper spray he would have been a lot less appreciative.
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I pulled my purse closer to me, because it contains a little somethin somethin with a bit more 'horse power' than pepper spray! Nudge nudge know what I mean!!
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09/21/12, 04:12 PM
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Much better than pepper spray.
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09/21/12, 05:47 PM
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Hey everyone...I just want folks to know that I just asked a question...I wasn't poking fun at any group, sex, ethnicity, religion, orientation, region, occupation, affiliation, denomination, yadayadayada...
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09/21/12, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pheasantplucker
Hey everyone...I just want folks to know that I just asked a question...I wasn't poking fun at any group, sex, ethnicity, religion, orientation, region, occupation, affiliation, denomination, yadayadayada...
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Heck no, wasn't you it was me!!
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09/21/12, 06:05 PM
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I like to peruse CL and have gotten some really good deals off it but I am more suspicious of the ones where they just rebuilt the motor and it runs great and only has 5 miles on it or the folks who have this great running "whatever" but they dont use it enough so they are letting it go for a screaming deal just to get it out of their yard.
I also see a lot of CL ads around here (and sometimes from used car dealers) where they have a 1978 Ford pickup with only "78K miles" for $1500 and the picture shows a well abused old truck with probably a couple hundred thousand on it.
Or the folks who have a tractor for sale, runs good and everything works on it and they have been using it for several years but cant tell you one thing about it.
Its all party of the enjoyment to me. I bought my stock trailer for half the price I thought I would have to pay and the lady I talked to (the picture was low quality and very tiny) didnt know how long it was, said she thought it was in good shape but didnt know much, and she said it was silver. We drove on a lark about 60 miles to see it and it was exactly what we wanted, it was in pristine condition and instead of plain silver it was custom painted in the exact color of our main farm truck (that kind of champagne silver that GM uses) so it looks like we had it painted to match the truck. She was great and we quickly made a deal and were both satisfied.
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09/21/12, 07:24 PM
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Shoot, it just does my heart good to see folks squabble over me ( pure-blood redneck) ... been awhile
Redneck = the guy that you call after all over avenues have been exhausted. After hearing that it can't be done over and over ... a redneck shows up; Not only with a solution .... but brings pics of the "time a'fore last".
Uneducated perhaps .... but one that never was taught that it could not be done ... and that, perhaps, being his best attribute.
The guy that makes it happen with baling twine, duct tape and tie wire ... while the engineers say that it is a lost cause.
LOL, yup, a lost interpretation between considerations and reality.
We also say Grace and we say Ma'am .... and, truly, if you ain't into that, we don't give a ...
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09/21/12, 11:07 PM
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Laura, sounds like you don't go out much. I'm a Texan boy, born and bred. I also consider myself a redneck but I don't dress the part unless you consider wearing camo a redneck thing. I can't wear boots due to my unique foot size. There are all kinds of rednecks.
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09/21/12, 11:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pheasantplucker
without specifying the door's dimensions? Duh!
I also notice lots of folks advertise stuff that appears to be junk...no effort to clean up the item to make it as presentable as possible and then they always say something like "needs a new belt...an easy fix"...Well if it is an easy fix, why didn't they do it so it runs or operates? Are people that unmotivated? 
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Those are exactly the kinds of ads that I like to see. I get screaming deals from them and even make money. Bought a 96 kia sportage once for $375 because the passenger door had been broken when it rolled into a snow bank. Traded that for 82 dodge 1/2 ton 4x4 and a 3500 watt generator. So I got a free truck.
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09/21/12, 11:22 PM
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This pretty much explains it:
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09/22/12, 10:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TedH71
Laura, sounds like you don't go out much. I'm a Texan boy, born and bred. I also consider myself a redneck but I don't dress the part unless you consider wearing camo a redneck thing. I can't wear boots due to my unique foot size. There are all kinds of rednecks.
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Dont leave us hanging on this statement Ted.....curious minds want to know!
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