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Old 08/19/12, 09:08 AM
 
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That stuff can cause chemical burns and could potentially mess up her tendon sheaths.

Every feed store carries a proud flesh treatment, or you can order online. You don't want to risk crippling that leg.
Thank you for your answer as I can tell that you know what you are talking about. Have had horses and cared for them most of my life (69) now, but still learning. I have a brother that is very good with horses and does about everything for his own except floating of teeth. Been treating and taking care of her well. I will look for some of the meds you mentioned, but small town might be more difficult to find will try today after church. Here is a pic of the mare and everyone can see that she is well taken care of. The swelling in the leg is from the fall and has gone down quiet a lot. She was large in the front like the rear, but stepped in a gopher hole and injured herself in the sholders and lost muscle tone with nerve damage. Vet said she would regain that tone, but she never did from about 10 years ago. Here is a pic of the mare. The tape is loose, to keep the vet wrap in place, not tight or a problem.

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She looks pretty darn good. I love that as a horse person you are open to suggestions and are trying to do your best by the horse. that speaks volumes to me as so many think their way is the only way. hang in there, it may be a long haul but the results will be worth it.
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Old 08/19/12, 11:51 AM
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It looks like you are doing a good job treating her. We have used "pickle lime" on proud flesh before & it has never injured one that I know of. It looks really messy, probably because it pulls puss & fluids out & dissolves the proud flesh, but it after the wound is washed it will look much better.

Hubby is a farrier & (former) horse trainer, & has self treated a lot of wounds. His main thing is washing the wound for several minutes a couple of times a day with the water hose.
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Old 08/19/12, 12:58 PM
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She is a pretty, well cared for girl.
I have only had to treat proud flesh once in the many years I've had horses. I do remember that I had to grit my teeth each time I cleaned it and treated it off because proud flesh bleeds so badly. But I did it daily til the wound healed over and it only left the smallest scar that never cause a problem, so it was worth the effort. His cut was right on the lfront of the knee. Taught me a great deal about how to keep a bandage on.
The reason I mentioned that bandage issue is that when the horse lies down, the knee gets folded and a bandage can cut into the back, even if it is loose enough otherwise.
I hope she heals well for you and fast.
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My first advice would be to have the vet out to look.

My second advice would be to use wonderdust. It is absolutely amazing stuff.
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Old 08/19/12, 03:52 PM
 
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That stuff can cause chemical burns and could potentially mess up her tendon sheaths.

Every feed store carries a proud flesh treatment, or you can order online. You don't want to risk crippling that leg.
Found some Wonderdust, bought the only two they had. I will try it when I take the bandage off this time. I will and do keep it washed. Bought fly spray and will keep around the cut, although she has not been bothered by flys. I am going to keep the vet wrap on to keep the flys away. Thanks everyone and I will keep you updated.
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I see injuries like this all the time. (work for a vet). I completely agree with Mary, I would use wonderdust. We typically put the wonderdust on a Telfa pad (non-stick pad) so that you can get the wonderdust directly on wound. Sometimes it's hard to use because it puffs out. I then use a piece of sheet cotton or something similar to wrap around leg and then vet wrap on top of it. I would be changing the bandage daily and making sure it is nice and clean at each bandage change. We just saw a horse on Friday with a similar injury, I think I heard the rate of closure once the wound is healing is like 1 mm per day? Takes quite a while for it to close completely. If she won't stop chewing on the bandage, you could spray with tobasco sauce or they make something called wrap blast (but don't breathe it in!) Good luck with your pretty girl!
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I see injuries like this all the time. (work for a vet). I completely agree with Mary, I would use wonderdust. We typically put the wonderdust on a Telfa pad (non-stick pad) so that you can get the wonderdust directly on wound. Sometimes it's hard to use because it puffs out. I then use a piece of sheet cotton or something similar to wrap around leg and then vet wrap on top of it. I would be changing the bandage daily and making sure it is nice and clean at each bandage change. We just saw a horse on Friday with a similar injury, I think I heard the rate of closure once the wound is healing is like 1 mm per day? Takes quite a while for it to close completely. If she won't stop chewing on the bandage, you could spray with tobasco sauce or they make something called wrap blast (but don't breathe it in!) Good luck with your pretty girl!
Thank you, tabasco sauce might be a thing to try if the problem continues.
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Pretty horse

I think I have her slightly darker cousin.

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Furacin shouldn't be used on the lower legs, it helps cause proud flesh.
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Furacin shouldn't be used on the lower legs, it helps cause proud flesh.
Did not know that! First time I have heard that, can I read that somewhere? Thank you!
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Google furacin proud flesh. I just looked for a sec and there are a lot of links to sift through.

I didn't know that about furacin either, thanks.
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Old 08/20/12, 04:33 PM
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Is she leaving the dressing alone or chewing it off?

If it is a matter of getting her to leave the dressing alone there is a spray that you can get from any pet store or on line at drsfosterandsmith.com that tastes really bad. I've used it before to discourage cats from eating my plants and it is really nasty stuff thanks to the alum they put in it. Some call it ICK!

I wouldn't put it on open flesh, even though it is recommended for hot spots on dogs to deter licking and chewing as I bet it burns like blue bloody blazes.

Poor baby. It looks nasty especially on a cannon bone. I had a mare catch her leg on a nail while busting down her coral and tear a two inch gash on it. Couldn't stitch it due to the location. Just packed it with iodine paste and antibiotic salve the vet gave us and it healed with a scar.

Hope your baby heals fast. The trick is getting her to leave it alone but she is probably doing what her instincts are telling her to do, keep the wound moist so it heals evenly.
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Is she leaving the dressing alone or chewing it off?

If it is a matter of getting her to leave the dressing alone there is a spray that you can get from any pet store or on line at drsfosterandsmith.com that tastes really bad. I've used it before to discourage cats from eating my plants and it is really nasty stuff thanks to the alum they put in it. Some call it ICK!

I wouldn't put it on open flesh, even though it is recommended for hot spots on dogs to deter licking and chewing as I bet it burns like blue bloody blazes.

Poor baby. It looks nasty especially on a cannon bone. I had a mare catch her leg on a nail while busting down her coral and tear a two inch gash on it. Couldn't stitch it due to the location. Just packed it with iodine paste and antibiotic salve the vet gave us and it healed with a scar.

Hope your baby heals fast. The trick is getting her to leave it alone but she is probably doing what her instincts are telling her to do, keep the wound moist so it heals evenly.
No don't bother when dressing is on it!
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I think I read it in horse and rider or some other horsie magazine and my vet confirmed it.
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Old 08/21/12, 09:18 PM
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I've seen some horrific wounds heal beautifully using honey. My vet says it's the first thing he recommends. I do love Wonderdust too!
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Old 08/22/12, 01:30 PM
 
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Have doctored the horse again, used several suggestions from here and will try them. Did the Wonder Dust, bag balm over it and some Fura Zone on gause pads. Leave it on a couple days and check it. Looks good right now.
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elasticon tape is more flexible than vet wrap, I would be using a maxi pad instead of gauze comes off easier, sticks to itself very well, breathes and is absorbent. Id say the unscented thins would work well.
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Old 08/23/12, 08:05 PM
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I'm suggesting what some others have suggested, Wonder Dust is one of the best at home treatments I have found for cuts and scrapes of almost any kind. I was gifted a mare by a friend of mine and she'd just had a colt. She had an extremely large and deep gash on her back hip... We suspected that she got injured protecting her colt from a cougar of some kind, as that is what the scratches on her suggested. We put wonder dust on it for a few days and the wound dried up and healed nicely. She still has the scar on her hip, but it works well.

It's also kept infection at bay for some of our horses whom got tangled up in barbed wire kicking at the dogs that harass them. I've had no complaints with it at all. And neither have the horses. They pretty well leave it alone if all I treat it with is the Wonder Dust.

Edit: Posted this before you posted information on getting the Wonder Dust. Looks very similar to my first aide kit for my horses!
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Old 09/17/12, 05:49 AM
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braggscowboy...just wondering how the mare's leg is doing?
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