USDA encourages Meatless Mondays

Genetics!

Martin

Hard on the kidneys, heart and gut? Pu-lease. Everyone is different and will thrive on a somewhat different diet and regimen. If you are not robust enough to digest meat then stick to fruits, berries and supplements and you have my sympathy. But a lot of people who eat meat, red meat, as a big chunk of their diet are quite healthy and live a long time. Look at Julia Child, she ate tons of saturated fat and red meat in her lifetime and she perked along right up into her 90s and died in her sleep. We should all be so lucky. So if you have bad genes and/or live a sedentary lifestyle, then maybe yes you should avoid it. But a blanket statement like was made above is absolutely, positively not true.

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Ya they can stop me eating meat on mondays when they "Pry My Knife and Fork From My Dead Cold Hands".

Amen!

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Alice
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Nope.
Diet.

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Wasn't diet that also caused those same people to be lactose intolerant.

Martin

::sigh::

1. I have celiac disease. I'm one of the people who really does have it and hasn't just diagnosed myself via Dr. Google. I haven't depended on wheat as a food source in years.

2. Paleo, Atkins, you name it, btdt years ago. By my count, you're running 10-15 years behind *my* curve. Didn't do me much good except for a whopping case of gout.

This is the kind of information I depend on these days:

Red meat consumption linked to increased mortality

Not nearly as trendy, but sure works!

And yet, again, we have entire civilizations that disprove that.

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During the LAST great depression, before the advent of food stamps and welfare checks, the USDA published meal suggestions to help people get through hard times and boost their morale. Most of those meal suggestions were meatless or had very small amounts of meat included.

I, personally, would like to see more suggestions like these and less food stamps.

Why should my tax dollars be paying to feed meat to people who can get by just as easily with a few meatless days per week (or onely one or two meat days per week)?

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I don't understand what the big deal is. The USDA [suggests] we have meatless Mondays, and people scream that they need to stop "regulating." Blatant truths are spoken, "We eat too much meat;" and people scream that they are raging against farmers.
Beef is hard to produce. It [does] take more resources to produce than crops, with the exception of grass-fed cattle.

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the thing is, is that USDA is suppose to be supporting meat growers. not telling people NOT to eat it and saying "it is to help the planet"

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Who is screaming??? (always interesting to see people call it screaming if views different from their own are expressed)

by whos measure is it a blatant truth "we" eat to much meat??? We are all built different. If you think there is one set diet that fits all humans, you probably havent delved into the topic to deeply.

Why in the world do you think beef is hard to produce?? I assume you mean feedlot cattle? which simply wouldnt exist without subsidies, atleast nothing like the frequency we have today. where I live cattle out number people, and they are all freeranged. In systems Id personally call wise, animals are using what humans cannot often including wastes from other crops. there is a reason why humans were so apt to domestivcate animals right in line with crop production. Done well they fit together like a glove and support eachother. I cant fathom a long term way to grow our food without lots of animals that doesnt itself include some major input displacement. For balanced systems in my opinion you need both. (Id also add that 50% of the worlds beef comes from arid regions, unable to readily grow other things, and most of these areas could multiply biomass grown for their cattle with the right methods, something I think will happen on its own as more people learn said skills)

Im also curious why your talking of beef alone? Lots of other animals out there. Including more efficient at feed conversion animals such as goats and rabbits.

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The USDA's ultimate mission is to serve the American public, not the meat growers. If it truly is bad for people to eat meat every day (not saying I believe that it is) , I would be incensed for the USDA to tell us otherwise just to support the meat industry.

This I definitely believe. I'm an O blood type, cavewoman, Paleo kind of gal myself. But I believe different people evolved to need different diets.

Alice I agree with the theory behind this totally. And it just makes common sense. I think if we ate this way from the beginning we'd be fine, excluding commercially fed animal products of course. My concern, because of my work, is what about people who already have diseased cardiovascular systems (practically all Americans, to varying degrees.) Is this type diet enough to actually heal that. We know that the vegan model works to reverse vascular disease.

I am always ahead of the curve We stopped eating shortening (actually all hydrogenated fats) 20 years ago when the first research started coming out about it. Have eaten almost no sugar in that time either. Stopped gluten 10 years ago. Not many people can claim those things.

Yes they are until a peta person got in their and is now spreading THEIR agenda around.

I don't see it as screaming, I see it as an ongoing effort to correct all the mis-information that has been put out there. There have been studies done that document the health benefits of lean beef in the diet, but, gee, somehow they don't end up on the 5 o'clock news like the "beef will kill you" studies.

I also doubt your assumption that beef consumes more resources than growing crops. The feedlot phase of modern beef production is the shortest period of the animal's life. It has spent most of its life on pasture, which generally is land not suited for growing any kind of crops in the first place. The practices of producing beef are much closer to nature than, say, an air-conditioned building with a state of the art ventilation system for raising modern pork and poulty, or even some of the fish farming practices. The electricity goes out and thousands of chickens or pigs would die. And they still have the gall to put "natural" on the retail package??? Yet it is beef that seems to always come under attack. It just gets old...very old.

And take into account that this is a homesteading board, so the beef that most of the readers are consuming was likely home-raised and not part of the "big ag" production system anyway.

And again, for the USDA to be actively promoting "meatless Monday" seems to be supporting the mis-information and lies put out by the AR groups and others. Not how I want my tax dollars spent.

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it is called U.S. Department of Agriculture.


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I agree

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