Pink Slime

They may be a bit bias since it's from Beef Products Inc.

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If you can smell it, the gas is still in the meat and evaporating. You would smell nothing if it was gone.

The phrasing the reporter used was a succinct way of saying "her actions would not be legal today"


Your claim that sterilizing the meat is optional because one company doesn't use ammonia (while forgetting to mention it uses acids instead) is not sticking to plain facts without sensationalism.

The link to the NY Times 2009 article is on page 1. It contains documented facts and figures.

No one else in the meat processing industry pretends not to know how E.coli and Salmonella get into meat. Why do you?

No,it is a meat byproduct,that was previously unfit for human consumption.

It also is decontaminated by the manufacturer as a precaution before being used.

Yum.

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So decontamination with ammonia is like washing your hands?




Yes,decontamination is to make people feel better about eating a meat byproduct previously reserved for dog food....

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Used to, but now I just fill my kitchen with ammonia gas.... since it does the same thing....



Maybe they should give them an ammonia bath? I hear thats best way to deal with industrial grade poop on your food.

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[QUOTE=Bearfootfarm;5778070]Ok, lets compromise, how about letting the label say "beef with added low grade poop encrusted dog food grade beef made legally safe by being exposed to a puff of ammonia gas or washed in acid"

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Calling ground meat "pink slime" isn't biased?

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Calling intestines and connective tissue meat doesn't seem exactly correct either. Not to mention the ammonia.

I didn't say it was "optional".
I beleive the term used was "precaution"

I "didn't mention" acid since it was in the link I provided.

By the same token, you didn't mention it's CITRIC acid, and not some vile chemical.

If you want "plain facts", then you have to admit "pink slime" contains 200 PPM of Ammonium Hydroxide.

Peanut butter has 400 PPM
Blue Cheese has about 1300 PPM

Here's the analysis for an average Cheeseburger:

A lot of distorted information about "pink slime" - Meat Cutters Club Message Board

Bun: 440 PPM
Bacon: 160 PPM
Condiments: 400 PPM
American Cheese; 813 PPM
Beef: 200 PPM

I'm not pretending anything.
It can get there any number of ways, and it's on the carcass BEFORE it's processed.
Why pretend it's ONLY in "slime"?

If it's evaporating, it's leaving the meat, which is exactly what I said

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Those things are NOT in it at all
More hype with no truth

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"As a precaution" is exactly what I said

You keep saying "unfit for human consumption" and "by product", and yet you've shown no evidence to prove that at all.

All sources given have said it just wasn't economically feasible before they used centrifuges to seperate the fat from the meat

All the arguments against it seem to be sensationalism and outright distortion of the facts

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It was used as dog food,why wasn't it used for human consumption?
As we all know,if they could sell us the cow poop as food they would so there was a reason for this.

It is a by product because it is what is left over from processing the edible parts...hence a by product.

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All it is IS A PRECAUTION, for E Coli that is all not because it IS anything there that MAY have gotten poo, but the chances get Higher as you get closer to the bone that Something May have gotten in there.
It is NOT just because it Does Contain Poo. It MAY. That is ALL.
This is just a recovery method to get more meat to the consumer without wasting as much as they did in the past. That is ALL.
And to keep saying there is poo in that meat sure is NOT Fair at all.
They are just cleaning the meat closer to the bone and that is where more connective tissue MIGHT be. Geesh how people can get this so confused and not get the true facts in what is being unfairly called opine slime.

Well the poop came out of the cow (we hope) so by bearfoot logic that makes it beef! doesnt it??? I mean for a short time it was ONE WITH THE COW.....

All I know is that I probably dont want to be invited over for cow pie.

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Oh for Pete's sake..

How did we go from "Lean Finely Textured Beef" to "intestines and connective tissue"?

I don't see a lot of facts in this thread. Do they really use intestines and ligaments in the LFTB? What percentage is it? According to this paper, the connective tissue of the LFTB might be double that of regular meat chunks. Thats a far cry from 100%. Even if you use the collagen in protein numbers, it still only goes from 94% to 72%.

Do people really think that they sweep up the trimmings off the floor to use?

The human body produces its own ammonia, so its not a foreign substance. The amounts may vary, however. How about the other sanitizing material: citric acid? Don't like grapefruit juice processed food because its unnatural?

Once again it comes down to personal choice. If you don't like it, don't buy it. If you don't think you can find it, buy a chuck roast and have the butcher grind it for you. Its going to cost more, but you'll get a naturally lean hamburger, and you can get whatever grind (fine/course) that you want.

Yes, I do think it should be on the ingredients label. Just like some packages are already labeled: Finely Textured Beef

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So you are saying the seller doesnt know whats in his product. Thats bad! He could put arsenic and ground up sneakers in it since you are saying mystery ingredients are ok.


So you can show there isnt poo in the 20% connective tissue and low grade meat? Ok, prove there is no poo! I say if there is a good chance there is poo, then one has to assume there is poo.


So you want the consumer to hire a psychic to determine if there is connective tissure and poo in his meat???? If the manufacturer doesnt know, how does the consumer know?? Why should the consumer play guessing games?

So whats your objection to truth in labelling that says upfront that the hamburger is potentially upto 20% reprocessed connective tissue and ammonia treated cow poop or whatever you want to call that pink slimy stuff? Dont you believe in individual choice? Or do you know better what should be hidden in people's food? For their own good of course!

Wouldnt it be better for the individual consumer to decide whether to buy mystery slime or not? Let the market place decide if this connective tissure and poo recovery effort is a benefit to society or not. But first consumers have to know its potentially in what they are buying.

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And just how long to you think this has been happening?
YEARS since the Early 90's It was developed in the 80's~!
I bet even YOU on Many occasions ate this kind of treated meat. It started for the Frozen Foods Market.
Well guess what you go to a auction, you do to a outside event ANYTHING like that and those burgers they are serving have been bought for the most part, maybe not 100% of them but not far behind that they have BEEN doing this. LOL

It can only be a personal choice IF its on the label. Its a shame we have to regulate, it should just be common sense that you dont add mystery ingredients to staple food commodities. Ground muscle meat is ground muscle meat, not 20% poo encrusted, ammonia sanitized connective tissue. If you want to sell poo encrusted ammonia sanitized connective tissue, then label it as such, dont palm it off as 100% ground muscle meat. Thats called adulteration of food.

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And it was ONLY in the early 2000's that they started to used this ammonia treatment to make it for sale as fresh ground meat instead of frozen beef patties.
but that sat ill means it has been going on for 10 years or more. LOL