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03/11/12, 10:35 PM
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I think what bothers me the most about all of this is that the USDA not only provides guidelines and subsidizes foods that I don't consider to be a healthy lunch for kids, but schools have rules that allow them to take home-made lunches away from kids and force them to eat the school lunch, as seen in that news article just a couple of weeks back.
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03/12/12, 01:08 PM
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Location: Tn
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Part of the problem is most kids don't see good food at home. A lot of folks eat out or buy that crap from fast food fortheir kids because it is quick and easy. Even if they do cook it's some prefab dinner out of the freezer section. I am in theschool system eveyday too and see these kids throwing most of the fresh stuff they get out. This school sells pizza about 3 days a week and borritos the other 2
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03/12/12, 01:38 PM
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Just keep it coming, giant agri-business. Chicken warehouses, manure soaked feedlots, salmonella, e-coli, pink slime... Just keep expanding my small farm customer base.....
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03/12/12, 03:20 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: middle GA
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Originally Posted by HermitJohn
Part of it is spoiled brat syndrome. Part of it is poor quality of vegetables and fruits. I remember many years ago now, saw kid take a bite out of a big red delicious apple and toss it. Scratching my head thinking, wow, spoiled brat, until I tasted one of them.... I'd toss it too. There was no taste, it was just sweet moist sawdust. Some of the modern varieties are bit better but not much. All are picked well before any flavor develops and then stored forever and "gassed to ripen". Makes them red/soft maybe, but they arent RIPE! I can usually eat boughten Gala apples, not really good, but edible, but have even had those that were inedible. Oranges not tastiest, nothing like the old juice oranges, but usually edible. But I've had those that were rather off flavor and sour, not in a pleasant way. Especially objectionable to kids sensitive taste buds. Or they were frozen in the field, yet still sold, ruins taste and texture. So not going to shout spoiled brat unless I tasted the food. Oh and salad, sorry but ranch dressing on iceberg lettuce with few bits of carrot for color isnt a real salad. I'd toss that too. And I know thats the kind of "institutional salad" that is served in schools and lower end restaurants. All about cost. Quality food costs real money, 'pink slime' type food is what is affordable.... It may sorta resemble real food but it isnt.
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I agree. My DS won't touch most supermarket fruits and veggies but will pick them from our garden, bring it in the house to wash and eat every bite of it.
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03/12/12, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: middle GA
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I didn't watch the video, but did listen to his radio broadcast on it and never heard him take credit for the story. That's what the OP said, but was it actually in the video?
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03/12/12, 10:06 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central Texas
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Sounds like the normal ingredients for bologna and hot dogs to me..
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03/12/12, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Joshie
Pink slime is inflammatory which is why that term was coined. Connective tissues are gelatinous and pink. Heck, I'd be shocked if even the beef we grow ourselves doesn't contain "pink slime."
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Veganazi propaganda..... in most of the articles, including this one http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...ime-free-beef/ call it accurately lean ground beef trimmings... the bits of meat that are too small to get off the bone... basically all the meat carcass that isn't bone, is removed, and ground up.
If you butcher your own, and utilize all of the animal... you indeed have got some 'pink slime' as the veganazi's would call it.
Btw... if you drink milk, to a veganazi, your consuming cow pus...
Call something 'disgusting' and you can convince a lot of people....
Guarantee you, a large part of the population would find multiple levels of 'grossness' in the process of converting a steer into 'store packaged meat'...
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03/13/12, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by texican
If you butcher your own, and utilize all of the animal... you indeed have got some 'pink slime' as the veganazi's would call it.
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If I butcher my own, then its all natural. If GREEDY SCUMBAGS do it for me, they tend to not leave it all natural.
Think of it this way, there is a tiny, tiny bit of all natural arsenic in everything you eat. Somehow I dont need some greedy scumbag concentrating that when he processes something to sell me. Benefits him, kills me. And no I am not saying pink slime products concentrate arsenic, I am saying eating anything (even natural things) in unusually high amounts is BAD.
But you want to eat high concentrations of pink slime more power to you, I (and apparently others) think products sold should be LABELED as to their contents, not have such wonders of modern meat manufacturing world hidden. Then you want to feast on pink slime, even put some on your morning cornflakes, you can buy it knowing thats what you are buying. I want to avoid it, I can.
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Last edited by HermitJohn; 03/13/12 at 04:17 AM.
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03/13/12, 04:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by texican
Veganazi propaganda..... in most of the articles, including this one http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...ime-free-beef/ call it accurately lean ground beef trimmings... the bits of meat that are too small to get off the bone... basically all the meat carcass that isn't bone, is removed, and ground up.
If you butcher your own, and utilize all of the animal... you indeed have got some 'pink slime' as the veganazi's would call it.
Btw... if you drink milk, to a veganazi, your consuming cow pus...
Call something 'disgusting' and you can convince a lot of people....
Guarantee you, a large part of the population would find multiple levels of 'grossness' in the process of converting a steer into 'store packaged meat'... |
I will agree, it is in there no matter how much you tend to think it is not. Just that some reporter got a hold of the words pink slime and it is over used, and is not anything bad, that is not eatable. Even good home made head cheese would be called this if some uneducated rep rotor got to look at what goes into it. LOL
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03/13/12, 04:50 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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More nasty news about meat. It just makes me all the happier we stopped eating the stuff altogether 20+ years ago. It's sickening that the geat FDA would even think of feeding that ----e to kids though. I wouldn't feed it to one of my cats.
There is a solution to all this crap though and it's real easy. Stop Buying this garbage. Those corporations don't give a ---- about you but they care very deeply about the profits they crave. When sales go down drastically  they will change their ways. FWIW there is an online petition circulating to stop this slime from going into school lunches.
The other thing odd here is Beck reporting on this. His usual style is so supportive of big business that he wouldn't say a word if they were feeding you soylent green.
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03/13/12, 04:04 PM
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(shrug). It is mechanically separated meat. Everything on the cow is edible, whether it is a part you normally eat or not.
I don't happen to like mechanically separated meat, so I don't buy it. I don't like the food at the national burger chains, so I don't buy that, either. But lots of people do and they aren't dying from it. Protein is protein.
The rule at this household is "Never ask what is in the sausage. You don't want to know. Just eat it"
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03/13/12, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
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Adding: I am in favor of using every molecule of any animal that is killed. To not do so is wasteful.
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03/13/12, 04:05 PM
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Location: Washington
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Originally Posted by oregon woodsmok
(shrug). It is mechanically separated meat. Everything on the cow is edible, whether it is a part you normally eat or not.
I don't happen to like mechanically separated meat, so I don't buy it. I don't like the food at the national burger chains, so I don't buy that, either. But lots of people do and they aren't dying from it. Protein is protein.
The rule at this household is "Never ask what is in the sausage. You don't want to know. Just eat it"
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You know what's strange? My kids not only want to know what's in the sausage but want to make their own batches. I think the trick starting them early... LOL
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03/14/12, 09:48 AM
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Sure, there's meat trimmings in it, BUT...ammonia???
No, we don't add that when we butcher!!!
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03/14/12, 10:53 AM
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How about soaking fish in Lye? That has been done for years. It is called Lutefisk. LOL
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03/14/12, 11:32 AM
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I have no problem with meat trimming either (although I am not eating them....my dogs get that part) but I am not feeding ammonia to my family or my dogs. Pink slime is way more than just meat trimmings.
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03/15/12, 09:36 PM
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The man responsible for the term "pink slime" was not a reporter, but a microbiologist employed by the USDA -
Gerald Zirnstein, called the processed beef "pink slime" in a 2002 e-mail message to colleagues and said, “I do not consider the stuff to be ground beef, and I consider allowing it in ground beef to be a form of fraudulent labeling.”
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03/16/12, 03:15 AM
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Sure, there's meat trimmings in it, BUT...ammonia???
No, we don't add that when we butcher!!!
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The articles are misleading
The ground meat is exposed to a small amount of Ammonia GAS to kill Salmonella and E. Coli
It's not being sprayed or mixed with liquid Ammonia
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03/16/12, 07:48 AM
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Why is E. coli present in the pink slime?
E. coli is from contamination with fecal matter...or POOP as some of us call it.
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03/16/12, 07:51 AM
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saw on the news last night, that schools will now be able to pick "slime" beef or "non slimmed" beef
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