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03/05/12, 06:32 AM
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How about using stove black on them?
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Use latex gloves. Will smell the first time as it cooks off. Good stuff.
Black stove pipe comes in different grades. I like the heavy stuff.
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03/05/12, 06:48 AM
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I have some from Woodland Direct that has performed well. No fumes while curing and has stayed black.
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03/05/12, 07:18 AM
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Like Harry said, no galvanized for interior wood heaters.
If they didn't paint the stovepipe black at the factory you would be buying rusty stovepipe.
Open the doors and windows when burning it off.
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03/05/12, 08:15 AM
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Your post is for chimney pipe and this thread is in regards to stove pipe.
I'd go with the single-wall stainless stove pipe. Our woodstove uses double-wall stove pipe. The inside wall is stainless and the outside wall is black painted. Never had an odor or rust problem with this type of stove pipe.
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03/05/12, 09:25 AM
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I put a coat of stove-black on ours their first year and second year. After that I dont touch them.
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03/05/12, 01:04 PM
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The first section of pipe connected to stove shouldnt be galvanized, but beyond that the pipe shouldnt get hot enough to be problem using galvanized. Well at least it is, if you are sane about how hot you burn your stove. All bets are off if you burn your stove hot enough to blister the paint on the wall closest to it. Means you probably shouldnt own a wood stove cause if you do you probably wont own a house for long!
I miss that really heavy duty galvanized pipe I used to get from Mills Fleet Farm when I lived up north. It tended to last very long time. The black pipe, thick or thin, especially if exposed to any kind of moisture rusts out quickly. Stainless is just plum crazy priced, but safety wise probably worth it.
All the scrap metal people, its hard to buy anything metal super economical anymore, but frankly old 6 inch cast iron sewer pipe is great for lining a chimney and used to be give away if you were at right place at right time. Pretty hard to rust it out. Unfortunately weighs a ton. And now the crazies think all metal is gold. Such a waste to see reusable metal sold off as scrap. But better than throwing it in ditch or burying it at land fill so six of one, half dozen of another... My notion is all metal should be reused until its no longer possible to reuse it, then it gets melted down.
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03/05/12, 02:57 PM
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I may be wrong,(frequently happens). But didn't stove pipes use to be "Blued", much like guns are "blued", to keep tem from rusting. IIRC, it was done rather than painting them which would burn off. The "bluing would not, or at least not as easily burn off.
I seem to remeber them that way........
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03/05/12, 03:00 PM
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OP, are you using double-walled black pipe? Double-walled from stove to roof and triple-walled stainless steel from roof to top of chimney should serve you very well for a great many years. - and no paint burnoff.
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03/05/12, 03:18 PM
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In days of old when I burned wood instead of natural gas I used galvanized pipe. Never had any trouble with it flaking or deteriorating. It did however lose that shine and turn an even dull grey color the first time I overheated it. Somehow I have never missed the creosote, wood ash mess, bark chip mess and dealing with cutting, hauling, splitting, stacking and that icky wood smoke all over the house since I converted to gas.
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03/05/12, 03:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old John
I may be wrong,(frequently happens). But didn't stove pipes use to be "Blued", much like guns are "blued", to keep tem from rusting. IIRC, it was done rather than painting them which would burn off. The "bluing would not, or at least not as easily burn off.
I seem to remeber them that way........
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I know exactly what you are talking about. I think some else refered to it as "glossed". I love the way the "blued" stuff looks but I have never seen in a local chain store, only piece or two at an old hardware store. As it is I have to deal with the painted stinky stuff from Lowes. The paint fades from a rich black to a duller dark gray as the paint is "seasoned". The "seasoning" starts at the stove and creeps up the pipe with each successivly hotter fire. You can actually see smoke coming off the pipe. I can't handle it, I usually open all the windows, no matter what the temp, until the worst is over. However, I can still get a touch of odor if I run my stove hot after 4 full seasons of heating
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03/05/12, 04:51 PM
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I know exactly what you mean. Just yesterday we threw open all the windows because we added a new section of pipe. And, our paint is not fading, it is actually burning. You can go over and wipe it off on your fingers and see the bare metal underneath.
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03/05/12, 06:59 PM
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The blue pipes I worked with were very light 28 gauge. We always set up interior pipes on a woodburner in the 70's with 24 gauge black or galvanized pipe. If galvanized we either rubbed it down with vinegar to remove the galvanizing from the exterior or emptied the house of people and pets and built a hot fire. It will take a few hours to burn off and it smokes and stinks.
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