Neighbors Dog

I reckon I fall into the irresponsible pet owner section... very few of my dogs have ever been 'chained'... when I did, I came to grief... a livestock protection dog protects nothing, except in the length of it's chain. So, they run free. I've contacted all the nearest 'neighbors'.... part time absentee owners, closest, 3/4 mile away... if they have issues/problems, call me, and I'll 'fix it'... whatever 'it' is.

I live where I do so I don't have to deal with humans. If I could live 50 miles from the nearest soul, I would.

If you don't have a 'place' yet, I'd recommend buying the largest remotest property possible. If you have a neighbor that you can talk to without leaving your front porches, your toooooooooo blankededy blank close.

I've had dog issues before... but never took down a dog, that wasn't already in misery...

again... there's no such thing as a bad dog... there are only bad neighbors...

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Just spent big bucks for some bred registered cattle. they had been here a week or so and were still skitish. the neighbors dog started to cross under the fence to check them out. Made me skitish. Came to find out the dog follows my wife back from getting the mail down all 750 ft of driveway. i gave my wife the choice either she would keep the dog from following her back. or I would.
I threw a few rocks and got it to leave but as I explained to the wife I will not be there every time and although i like dogs. the thought of my herd of cattle running through the fence and going who knows where scare me
I value the life of my wife and grandson age 2 and any others on my property over an univited or for that matter an invited one that is not controled no matter whose it is

But also I hope I am not put to the test
Steve

We don't either and it's your problem usually. Had the neighbor's dogs out here one day and we came over the hill from a shopping trip. There were dead chickens everywhere. SSS took care of it..... Now, when we see a strange dog on our farm, we send off one shot over their head. Usually, they won't come back!

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I totally understand what you are saying. But having neighbors without character means that you can't predict what they will do when they are angered. They aren't rational in the same way as you and I are.
People who s.s.s are often forced to choose between protecting their family and animals immediately AND from possible future retaliation, and the life of an unfortunate animal whose owner is not doing their job.

In other words it's not such a cut and dry choice as you are trying to make it if you have children and animals to protect and you know your neighbor is unreasonable.

Texican, you don't sound irresponsible at all. It's not about a chain or a chain link.

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If it were my problem, I'd first try to catch the mongrels, and then give a heapin dose of trappers lure...you know: fox urine, skunk urine, doe estrus, you name it...head to toe. That might convince her to keep em under control.

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i ask dog owners once to keep there animals up after that it's SSS all the way. And usually get the same in return.

Wars have been started over very small things such as this.... The Regulator-Moderator War of East Texas, was started over killing feral hogs... vengeance can be great, over some things.

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I don't think there are many here among the sss crowd who are suggesting they would shoot a dog on it's first appearance. It is only after several such indications that the animal(s) belong to irresponsible owners that such drastic methods are employed.

If it does become necessary to sss, one does not want an established history of "complaining" to or about said irresponsible owners. Leads to unnecessary complications.

Hope it was not my post that inspired this. I specified in my previous post that if a dog owner lives in an area where the dog would impact a neighbor, sounds like you don't! (lucky dude) Also you have let neighbors know to talk to you first if problems arise and you would responsibly fix the problem, which would probably become your problem anyway. Who needs a livestock protection dog that attacks livestock?

We have a neighbor who lets all her small dogs run around too. Three small dogs and they just wandered all around. They got in the road, in neighbor's garage, barked at everyone and it was just not good. Lucky for me she does not live near my house and so I did not have to deal with it except when we drove past that part of the neighborhood. The dogs would just stay in the road - at times we had to stop and yell at the dogs to get them to run off.

Finally an elderly neighbor called the Sheriff and had them come out and talk to the neighbor and not tell her who called. They had to come talk to her five or six times though.

Our dogs run loose since they are Guard Dogs but we train them to stay on our land. Only one time they ran off to a neighbors and the neighbor dog tore them up! Not kidding - we had to take one of our Dogs to the Vet! Needless to say they have not been back over there since.

Good luck - hope it works out peacefully.

Koolaid will turn a dog what ever color you choose and not hurt the dog.

HERE I HAVE READING YOUR POST FOR YEARS AND WISHING YOU WERE MY NEIGHBOR!

Try to peacefully work this out with some phone calls. Suggest underground fence. If that does not work, then start taking photos of the dogs at your place. Give them some time to figure out a solution and a deadline and after that let them know you will be in touch with the sheriff. Where I live a person may be cited for letting their dog run all over.

I don't mind an occasional loose dog but if it is back time after time causing damage in some way I have the right to have it stopped. Legally and in as civil a manner as possible. A neighbor 3/4 mile away had a big horse of a dog that was in my deer hunting area and potentially impregnating my wife's little shelty (and maybe leading to it's death). So I called a bunch of times. I almost got up to the photo-taking and deadline stage but thankfully the matter was taken care of before I had to get a little firmer about it. Now our shelty is fixed in case that big horse gets loose again so we do not have to worry about that.

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When we lived in the city we lived in townhomes that were set up like an apartment complex and everyone had their own little yards to maintain. The rules were posted that your dog had to be leashed at all times. So, I would always leash up my little Aussie/Cattle dog/German Shepherd mix except when I would take her out to the complex playground after dark to work on her training. If anyone came around I would leash her up quick to not cause any problems, though. I can't tell you the number of off-leash dogs we came into contact with on our walks through the complex, though. Even in our courtyard it became the thing to just let the little dogs run loose and chase the children. I came close to kicking one in the head when it rushed up on my toddler. It ran away just in time and I missed, though.

Then we move to the country in another state. All of our neighbors keep their dogs home, but we found a little church in the middle of the country. I don't think anyone keeps their dogs home over there. In fact, I was actually told by someone that lives over there that dogs are allowed to roam in the country. There's a particular house that we pass on the way to church. The second time going to church a dog ran out from the driveway of this house. It's like it had a death wish! It ran at the front of our truck and front tires. Of course we slowed down and tried to swerve away from it. We told people from church about it and they said they've had the same thing happen to them. They said for us to just keep driving, because it won't move no matter what you do. They said they've even hit it before. lol We are always on the lookout for that dog.

Noting that the original post and responses were in 2012, and that there might be new members or lurkers, A reminder that almost all states have laws that allow farm owners to shoot any loose pet that is worrying livestock, and do so with complete impunity from legal actions. Any person who lets a dog loose in the country must bear the complete responsibility for that action. If a livestock owner SSS that is not being underhanded or sneaky, but protecting an investment and livelihood in accordance with established law. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Our Aussie won't wander more than about 100 ft from the front door. It is a great breed that way - it wants to stay by its owner and humans that it guards. When we go on a trip, however, it will roam. So if we leave we have to keep it locked up with a dog/house sitter.

A beagle, on the other hand . . . Had to pen it up 24/7 unless I took it hunting. And even then it ran a deer and got run over. When it did get loose a few times it would run deer in neighbor's woods - I would not have blamed them for shooting it before I could run it down.

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what is SSS?

Shoot, shovel and shut up.

My father used a shot gun with #9 shot far enough away just to tickle them as he said, that usually kept them away without doing any damage to them. Although the one he found by the chicken coop killing chickens didn't last long.