Ford N Thread got me thinking

FarmboyBill · #41 02/14/12, 12:25 PM

My boys got a WD. If it aint hard to get onto, Than the hand clutch is banging your R knee cap. Its here. Hes keeping it here till he gets a place. Sure wish hed hurry up.

NETTE. U know how much I hate to tell you this, BUT Your cracker will pull a sickle mower, and side rake, and LIGHT bailer for square, or round say 300# bales,

anette · #42 02/14/12, 12:59 PM

You reckon it will, Bill? And yes, I understand what that cost your tractor lovin' pride to say

FarmboyBill · #43 02/14/12, 01:12 PM

LOL lol. YUP know it will. You may have to rig a engine onto itSomebody just showed how to do that on Rural Heritage. U may also want to get front dolly wheels for the tongue, like the real OLD HEAVY bailers had to take the weight off the drawbar, But, it should pull a light weight square bailer with no problems. Like a NH or JD 3pt hitch sickle mowers will cost betweein2 and 4. Rakes will cost around 3. Wagon round 2 if you have to replace the bed.

Silvercreek Farmer · #44 02/22/12, 07:18 PM

Nice pics. Lot of work done with the Ns over the years...

BobbyB · #45 02/22/12, 07:35 PM

I used to have a '52 8N, the newest you can get. It was a fine little tractor and I still kick myself for selling it.

Having grown up on tractors, it didn't take long to learn tricks with using a non live PTO.

Lots of folks say get something newer, but these days, a 25 HP tractor weighs about 2/3 of an 8N or less. If you dont have the weight, HP dont do any good because all you do is spin.

I am in the market for a tractor now. A good 8N would suit me just fine. But Id take a good deal on a Farmall M, H or a C. A 460 or 560 would be jam up.

But Id like to have an Oliver and or a JD too.

There is an H not far from me priced right. I can get the Saginaw 3 pt for it and still be dirt cheap.

ANyway, soprry for the ramble.

MattC, that a nice one you have, makes me miss mine.

Tad · #46 02/22/12, 08:49 PM

I would take an older tractor over anything built in the last 20 years. I always said JD's progress peaked with the 20 series. People on here will get by with what the have and everyone has their own opinion. I once saw two guys almost come to blows in an IH vs JD conversation. Around here you can pick up an old IH like an M or H or 350 for a song. Went to an acution a few years back the guy had all three and got less than a $!000 for each. The H went for $750 and another farmer grumbled he just put tires on an old H he had and it cost more than that. Guy we rent land from has a 9N he loves the thing easy to work on and cheap to run. As far as no live pto I knew a guy that chopped corn with a Super M, rev the chopper way up shove in the clutch jam her in gear and away he went!

FarmboyBill · #47 02/23/12, 07:17 AM

I can understand how, if a guy had land AND a Ford, Hed want to rent the land rather than farm it with the Ford LOL.

I went to the sale I go to, and there were 2 Hs. They were seperated, but that might be cause he had brought one at a time, and other people came and they put stuff past the first one till he got the second there. One was painted up and decaled and looked GOOD. The other wasnt. I started the one that wasnt and it started fine. STILL DOES. Ask Oxankle. Anyway, I got it for $450. Tires are Shot, and have already replaced the front tires. I think it was a seconds tractor for the first, and after he got the first ready, maybe he found he didnt have to take so much off the second, and he put it together and sold both hopeing the second would bring more together and working rather than as a basket case for the first.
I JUST bought a 50 B JD. IT was thought to be stuck in the engine, and definatly stuck in the trans. The body on it is PERFECT. Tires 75%. I got it home 2 weeks ago and started working on the trans. I finally come to the place where I thought I would have to pull the flywheel to get at the selector rods on the B> I pulled the cover of the FW, and just for the heck of it gave it a good tug. It lurched and moved around. I put the hammermill belt on it and belted it to the H and it had enough comp to kill the H on high idle I paid $750 for it
Ive got a 39 A JD I paid $450 for. It was a basket case for a guys dads tractor that they had restored. They planned on fixing this one and his dad died, and for whatever reason that was that. Its been stuck until a couple weeks ago when I finally got it loose. Its somewhat of a rarity as it has a frame dated 1936 on it, and the A first came out in 34. It was the first year for the styled tractors of JD.

BobbyB · #48 02/23/12, 08:03 AM

It seems when I find a really cheap tractor of any make, it is on the opposite side of TX and that means 6-8 hours one way. If I can haul it on my trailer, it would be one thing. If I had to hire it hauled, well, that would add far to much to the cost.

FarmboyBill · #49 02/23/12, 08:12 AM

Heck, I hauled a New Idea Husker Shredder from SD to Okla. with a duelly and a trailer. Its the size of a small thresher.

BobbyB · #50 02/23/12, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FarmBoyBill

Heck, I hauled a New Idea Husker Shredder from SD to Okla. with a duelly and a trailer. Its the size of a small thresher.

If I had a goose neck trailer and a bigger truck, it wouldn t be that big of a deal. What I have is a 16' bumper pull. 8n and that size I can run off with. Much bigger and it starts to be an issue.

A boy I work with has a truck and trailer. I need to talk to him and see if we can work something out.

Stephen in SOKY · #51 02/23/12, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MattC

Lazy J- Only tractor harder to mount in my experience is a Allis wd45.

You've obviously never had a JD "M" model. We had one for plowing/side dressing tobacco and they are a broken ankle just waiting to happen.

FarmboyBill · #52 02/23/12, 01:50 PM

We hauled the HS on a bumper trailer and my boys duelly
There was only one M model ion the country when I was a kid. I guess they wernt too popular.

haypoint · #53 02/23/12, 04:18 PM

http://awesomehenry.com/v8fordconversions/

Seems a flat head V8 would make the 9N more useable, if not more fun.

FarmboyBill · #54 02/23/12, 05:30 PM

They made them. Called them Funk conversions. Used alot more gass. Was alot more reliable, BUT didnt have any more weight without fluid in the tires, so it couldnt really do anything heavy any better than what it came out with. NOW, Hauling wagons of grain to town, of anything that required not to much pull and alot of speed, They could do it.

I think somebody told me that the engines from the first ones came from a 37 Ford truck

Old Vet · #55 02/23/12, 06:29 PM

When the IHC F-12 came out it was the thing to have. No hydraulics but you can lift things by a leaver. Then came the IHC M or lettered models. They had a hydraulics only a single but then you can put a double in it by using after market. They were popular during the 50 and 60. Then the numbered model came along and they were great but had lesser HP than was needed. Then came along the bigger number models. And yes some tend to use the oldest model and for what do with them they are great. But for the modern farmer going back to the F-12 is unthinkable.

FarmboyBill · #56 02/23/12, 08:32 PM

Modern farmers farm 10 000 acres or more. Farmers back then farmed 120 to 320 . Have you ever heard of the Bonanza farm s in the Dakotas from 1890 up to round 1900. They farmed 10s of thousand acres, and did it with a few steam engines and 24 bottom plows, and big A threshers, and Combines with 48ft headers.
They did it then, and I suppose they could do it now. The logestics are there. It would sure be cheaper. Youd have to use mexs for hired help. Could be done.

If one of those farmers could be alive here today, and knopw how to use what they used, They could farm as much acreages as a lazy sassed farmer today.

FarmboyBill · #57 02/23/12, 08:37 PM

An F-12 was the smallest row crop IHC made. I never saw one up hiere till I was in my 20s, and I think I only saw one. Nobody would have used it for even a 120. There were quite a ferw F-20s around here. My uncle next door had one. Neighbor up the road 1/2 mile had one. Kid we went ot HSs dad had one. A couple of druggy bros had one or two. They were around the same size as Hs , and there were lots of them around home in the 50s/6070s. They were used to farm the origional family farms. When the origional buyers of them got old and sold out. The next generation few started buying all the farms and going big on the machinery

**fordson major** · #58 02/24/12, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Vet

But for the modern farmer going back to the F-12 is unthinkable.

i had a W12 at one time, coulda used it to churn butter when you drove on hard ground!

i would have a 2, 9 or 8N around a farm instead of one of those mule/gator things! we started with a ferguson 20/85 and a 9N and kept trading up through the FORD lineup. biggest i drove was a 9482

HermitJohn · #59 02/24/12, 10:51 AM

Had an F12 on rubber when I lived in Michigan that I gave $200 for. No bouncier than any other tractor. It was a handy size little tractor. I never added hydraulics to it though that would have made it handier yet. The little OEM engine was quite thrifty on gasoline. It was already an antique at that time and parts were hard to find and crazy priced. I finally replaced the original engine with a Chevy 4cyl that I gave $40 for. Electric start and lot more power. Hand crank starting any tractor in winter is not fun especially one with low compression and a marginal magneto.

FarmboyBill · #60 02/24/12, 11:07 AM

Dang, handy as I thought u to be, I woulda thought you would have a good mag if u had to crank one. My mags are GOOD I have one on the Case, and maybe one on the H, I dont know bout the Cub in 50. One on the 30 A JD that im working one, and I dont know what I got one the 50 B JD