vehicle advice please

wharton · #21 02/09/12, 05:10 PM

Couple of thoughts. No real way to bang the pan into the oil screen on my last few Chevies, the pan is cast aluminum and would shatter if hit that hard. My 2003 Tahoe oil guage was acting weird with strange readings. The sender was fine, the guage was failing. I ended up with a rebuilt instument cluster from GM, as it needed a few of the lamps inside other guages replaced as well. It wasn't too bad, around $250 for the whole dash unit, IIRC.

Wis Bang 2 · #22 02/09/12, 05:19 PM

Yeah the 2000 - 2006 have problems w/ the 'stepper motor' that operate the needles, my '05 Silverado shows no oil pressure, shut it off and re-start and the gauge works fine....

chewie · #23 02/09/12, 07:36 PM

dealership wont do anything, and no rights either, used vehicle sold as is. there is no 30 day situation.

well, problem 'solved'. changed oil and filter. the oil looks like its glittery, like tiny flakes in it. its black and nasty. the plug had a mushroom top of gunk on it. no way this thing has been serviced in ages.

now tonight hubs and I took it out after the change, pressure was doing ok, hubs stepped on it to go up a hill and I could tell we aint' going near fast enough....poof. engine is now froze. tahoe died. I fully believe they knew this thing was a lemon, and that they screwed me.

so, if anyone is near mitchell sd, stay far far away from iverson motors!!!

elevenpoint · #24 02/09/12, 07:50 PM

What is the mileage on this vehicle? I would say you will have to get a new engine or that one could be professionally overhauled for about 2K.

luvrulz · #25 02/09/12, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chewie

dealership wont do anything, and no rights either, used vehicle sold as is. there is no 30 day situation.

well, problem 'solved'. changed oil and filter. the oil looks like its glittery, like tiny flakes in it. its black and nasty. the plug had a mushroom top of gunk on it. no way this thing has been serviced in ages.

now tonight hubs and I took it out after the change, pressure was doing ok, hubs stepped on it to go up a hill and I could tell we aint' going near fast enough....poof. engine is now froze. tahoe died. I fully believe they knew this thing was a lemon, and that they screwed me.

so, if anyone is near mitchell sd, stay far far away from iverson motors!!!

Google the lemon law. I think in some states, it could or could not apply to used cars purchased in an as is condition...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_law

Jokarva · #26 02/09/12, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chewie

dealership wont do anything, and no rights either, used vehicle sold as is. there is no 30 day situation.

well, problem 'solved'. changed oil and filter. the oil looks like its glittery, like tiny flakes in it. its black and nasty. the plug had a mushroom top of gunk on it. no way this thing has been serviced in ages.

now tonight hubs and I took it out after the change, pressure was doing ok, hubs stepped on it to go up a hill and I could tell we aint' going near fast enough....poof. engine is now froze. tahoe died. I fully believe they knew this thing was a lemon, and that they screwed me.

so, if anyone is near mitchell sd, stay far far away from iverson motors!!!

Man, I would contact every consumer rights/BBB/congressman's office/newspaper/tv station/etc/etc I could think of...what a rip off!

wingnut64 · #27 02/09/12, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chewie

that's the thing, the mechanic used one of those external gauge, where you take out the sending unit and hook it up directly to get a more true reading. still extremely low pressue?? and the sending unit is bone dry, it should be all oily and messy. that's why I am thinking that the sending unit and gauges aren't getting oil at all for some reason, but the engine is. otherwise, i'd walked home.

I called the dealership, and he's reminding me of the 'as is' about used vehicles, but said he's going to see what they can do. I also called our state's comsumer advococy (spelling is all wrong, sorry) and finding out what rights if any, that I have.

I just want all this drama over with! I want to get back to just having the day in day out normal life on the farm again!! I would really like if this vehicle could be fixed, its really nice and would suit me for years, IF....

thanks for the suggestions

Quote:

Originally Posted by chewie

dealership wont do anything, and no rights either, used vehicle sold as is. there is no 30 day situation.

well, problem 'solved'. changed oil and filter. the oil looks like its glittery, like tiny flakes in it. its black and nasty. the plug had a mushroom top of gunk on it. no way this thing has been serviced in ages.

now tonight hubs and I took it out after the change, pressure was doing ok, hubs stepped on it to go up a hill and I could tell we aint' going near fast enough....poof. engine is now froze. tahoe died. I fully believe they knew this thing was a lemon, and that they screwed me.

so, if anyone is near mitchell sd, stay far far away from iverson motors!!!

I feel bad for you. Last night I didn't realize a mechanic had already done a pressure test. At that point I'd have told you not to drive it without changing the oil pump.
The oil change you did confirmed that it was chewing up the engine slowly but surely.
Whenever I buy a used car I make sure I inspect all the fluids for telltale signs. If they changed them all before I got there, then I make sure it gets driven long enough to show any bad signs.
A trip to an independent mechanic you trust before you buy it, is always worth it.

GoldenCityMuse · #28 02/09/12, 08:34 PM

Talk to the owner of the dealership.

If he won't budge, place ads in the local paper.
Give them a ton of negative publicity.

TedH71 · #29 02/09/12, 08:54 PM

You probably fall under the lemon laws. Check it out and see what your state has online.

chewie · #30 02/09/12, 10:12 PM

yeah, this ain't over yet. so happens i need to make a trip that a-way tomorrow, with hubs. (btw, he's been an ace thru all this, couldn't ask for a better man right now!) also gonna bring them a couple nice jars of their glittery oil for show n tell. hopefully they will have several lookers in their showroom!

and you better believe I'll be squealing like a stuck hog if I don't get some sort of fix.

when I checked the dipstick prior to purchase, the oil was the color of good honey, smelled fine. I looked at every fluid. I called the previous owner, which I now wonder if that's who I really got? I did my homework. this should not have happened a week into ownership!!

doesn't seem as if I have any legal rights however, according to the state guy who called me back. as is is as is. too bad and she's all yours. but this glittery oil, dang, these ppl cheated.

a good note however is our insurance is paying WELL for the burnt pickup. plus allowing us to sell it for scrap. not a bit of hassle, just a pleasant visit from a nice mannered young man and its over.

#31 02/09/12, 10:49 PM

Check http://www.lemonjustice.com/lemon-la...n_law_used.php and click on other laws for used cars.

Macybaby · #32 02/10/12, 07:29 AM

I sure hope you get some satisfaction, and since I live 12 miles from Mitchell, I'll make sure to tell everyone I know and work with about what Iverson did to you.

There are very few merchants I'm willing to work with in Mitchell, way too many of them have the attitude - where else you gonna go? Well, Sioux Falls isn't that much farther, and at least there is some competition among sellers there, to help keep them a bit more honest.

chewie · #33 02/10/12, 08:41 AM

nimrod--FANTASTIC link my friend. I can say 'its wrong to do this' all I want, your link gave me some more ligit words and rules that prove it.

yeah macy, stay far away from that place. and I so appreciate your spreading the word. if they come around and fix it, I will share that as well, but I am not hopeful. and, I sure do not wish any other soul to go thru this, such a pain and so stressful!! even if they fix it, this hasn't been worth all this stress.

Common Tator · #34 02/10/12, 10:23 AM

South Dakota
Lemon Law for Used Cars in South Dakota

South Dakota's Lemon Law does not cover used vehicles. However, there are several other types of laws that can be used to help you in the event you discover that you've bought a used car lemon. First, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has what's called the Used Car Rule that requires dealers to provide consumers with a Buyer's Guide with warranty and other types of information. If the dealer has in any way failed to abide by the FTC Used Car Rule, you may have the basis for a legal claim.

Second, each state has what are called Unfair and Deceptive Acts and Practices (UDAP) laws. If the dealer has, for example, made verbal promises or didn't tell you about issues relating to your used car, you may have a cause of action. Third, South Dakota's version of the Uniform Commercial Code may provide you with relief. Finally, the Truth in Lending Act and the Federal Odometer Act might also be valuable in obtaining lemon justice.

http://www.lemonjustice.com/lemon-la...n_law_used.php

I feel so bad for you Chewie! I hope this helps!

chewie · #35 02/11/12, 10:48 AM

I went into iverson's yesterday with a jar of my chunky, glittery oil and raised a bit of ruckus. the manager took us into his office and proceeded to say he'd look at it, bring it in. I said 'ha, good one, its a ROCK'. oh, then we'll come for it, with a trailer. I ask what's it going to cost me? nothing, we'll come for it, and I want our guys to look it over before we go any further. fine I say, sounds good. he asked 'where do you live?' when I tell him, he said "oh crap' this will be a 4 hour trip for someone! but not me! I am taking pix of my new tires on it, on their trailer. I cannot get them off before they come for it today. (dang, this really bugs me, but i can't do anything more about it).

I did tell them they didn't have the buyer guide paper on the window, and he got snooty, "oh, then how is it here? (in the file)" i said "how should I know? I do know it wasn't there, and my friend who was with can testify to that!" he shut up. also started saying things about disclosing law--that is the big one I believe they violated. if they changed the oil as claimed, they KNEW this thing had metal in the pan. if not, they were fraudulant on the service they did. add to it, the salesman refused to let me take to my own mechanic. (yes, he's 90 miles away, but I think it said within 100 miles, so i'm inline there.) he was arging he didn't say that! oh yes he did!!! and wouldnt' let me drive off on my own with it either! so they did violate used car rules, as is or not!!

I don't know what will come of it, but at least this is a start. I have receipt for my tires, so if they keep it, I hope this wont' be an issue on top of everything else. I do have the old ones. I sure hope this resolves positively for me, I can't afford this. and I really liked that thing before it blew! it was going to suit me perfect. well, cept the part when it left us sitting on the road waiting for a pull! argh!!! and I wouldn't of had this much backup (knowing the rules) without you guys! HUGE thanks!

texican · #36 02/11/12, 12:22 PM

I'm thinking, the generally accepted rule is, to get used vehicles checked out, by 'your' mechanic..... before buying.

Had the GF's Toy run over with a fine toothed comb, by my mechanic BIL.... he told me it had numerous boo boos... but still a good buy. Two years later, slowly fixing those boo boos.

chewie · #37 02/13/12, 11:29 AM

Iverson's called, and by golly, I was right, its locked up!

they said they could fix it, but my fix it fella can do it cheaper, so I asked that it be brought back, and dropped off to him. they agreed to pay for a new engine, I pay to put it in. not ideal, but not bad either! it was used, and it is 13yo vehicle. and its much better than anyone thought they'd do!!

and in the whole picture, I'll have a nice vehicle with a new motor, 3y warranty on said motor, and still within my price range and the actual retail price of that vehicle. so in all, this is a good monday! they are bringing it to my fix it fella today yet, another 4 hour trip for them. I got an email with the details, so I think I've covered my hieny on this one, and its about the best I coulda got imo. so yeah!

sharplady · #38 02/13/12, 12:16 PM

I am glad that this is working out for you! Sometimes all you have to have is just a little bit of ammo and be prepared to stick to you guns! Way to go GF!

DamnearaFarm · #39 02/13/12, 03:16 PM

Good job, Chewie.

elevenpoint · #40 02/13/12, 03:39 PM

A new engine properly maintained can go a long time, I would suggest if the budget allows it to do the following...flush and refill rear axle, transmission fluid and filter, transfer case and front axle for 4 wheel drive, radiator flush and fill. When I had the engine and transmission rebuilt in my truck I did everything else at the same time, then you know maintenance wise where you stand...peace of mind too.