Anyone taking Diatomaceous Earth?

=== and I'll be out about $10. No big loss. ===


Hey. Where are you getting 50 pounds of food grade DE for $10? Inquiring minds want to know!!

I'm not buying 50 pounds. I think that was for 10 pounds.

The DE I take is Perma-Guard Fossil Shell Flour. Here's what's in it:




This is my DE magnified 7,000 times:

Surely you're not SERIOUS?

http://manbir-online.com/diseases/arsenic.htm

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Arsenic, element 33, has a long and nefarious history; its very name has become synonymous with poison. In the 15th and 16th centuries, the Italian family of Borgias used arsenic as their favorite poison for political assassinations. Some even have suggested that Napoleon was poisoned by arsenic-tainted wine served to him while in exile.

5500 pounds of it in a wine glass.

There's NO arsenic in my DE as you can see.

You are correct that my calculations were wrong. I thought I read in the MSDS that the toxic level was 145 mg/kg, but either I misunderstood that or they were mistaken. If it's actually 120 mg, then I would have to consume 57 pounds. So still not likely to cause acute arsenic poisoning, but it does make it a much greater risk. I'll definitely have to look at those numbers again when I've had some sleep. I do appreciate you catching that mistake.

That 5500 pound figure was of DE, not arsenic. It was calculated from the link you provided, which said "Acute oral toxicity (LD50): 145 mg/kg" which was either incorrect or I interpreted it incorrectly. The correct figure should be 57 pounds, unless I'm making another error.

That is the brand that I was considering. But I think those other numbers are also of that brand, but from another lab.

You might take a little better look at several things.
Those scientific experiments you keep talking about could sure use another look also.

There's only one. That's one more than the studies that say it does nothing. I don't really care about that study anyway, since it's about lowering cholesterol and my cholesterol is fine. I will be rethinking the risk, though. It would still take well over 250 years to kill me with the dose I arbitrarily chose, but chronic exposure is potentially an issue.

Well my watch is over for tonight. As long as people are in the mood to prove me wrong and do all the work for me, feel free to find the toxicity level, digestive uptake, and excretion rate of nickel, cobalt, and chromium. I only have a few medical books with me and I doubt any of them cover those topics.

=== There is no arsenic in my brand. ===


>>> That is the brand that I was considering. But I think those other numbers are also of that brand, but from another lab.


You had best recheck your information.

Have a good night.
Maybe if you eat enough of that DE you could half that 250 years.
Just take you 125 years if you really try.

There was none in the 3 samples they tested.
That doesn't mean there will be none in the next bag

It also said it was 99.452% Acid Insoluble Matrix, which means material that does NOTHING at all.

It has Barium:
Read more: http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/ele...#ixzz1mFTDrT45

It has Lead:
http://www.epa.gov/lead/

It has Mercury:
http://www.medicinenet.com/mercury_p...ng/article.htm

It has Cadmium:
http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/cadmium/index.html

It has Phosphorus:
http://www.wikihealthy.com/poisoning...poisoning.html

It has Zinc:
It has Lithium:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_toxicity

It has Manganese:
Read more: http://www.lenntech.com/periodic/ele...#ixzz1mFbwy7ji

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So is it poison or does it do nothing? Can't be both. Manganese and zinc are two more essential minerals. Phosphorus and lithium may also be. I really wish people here could understand that the poison is in the dosage. Anyway, I've got a month or so before I get back to a place where DE is even readily available. That should be enough time to either do the research or forget about the topic entirely. Depends on how bored I get.

I used to work night shift, for about 15 years. Nothing to do but stay awake.
Doing research on the computer kept me awake. I had time to research anything I was the least bit curious about. You wouldn't believe somethings I spent weeks researching 8 hours a day. Since I am not the most intelligent person I had to prove to myself if something was true or false. Since I didn't know anything about many of the things I was curious about I had to look with an open mind. I had to try it.

Somethings I found out were good and some were bad. I try to give people some insight on what worked for me and what failed. I can't say what will work for others, just try to give my experiences. I don't expect others to take my word for anything. Just trying to give a heads up.

That's kind of been my approach over the last several days. I've been sailing, so I have to do something to pass the hours of boredom and stay awake late at night. Since there's so much disagreement about the potential of this stuff, and I'm not the type to take someone's word who has no experience with something, I decided maybe I'll try it for myself and see what happens. I don't expect any miracles, but I won't be surprised if there's some benefit either.

Read what it says
Over 99% does nothing, and much of what's left are poisons

Why expose yourself to MORE when you don't know how much you're already getting?

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I do know how much is in my blood, at least of the well-known heavy metals. If the levels go up too much, I can stop taking DE. My heavy metals levels are already so much lower than the average American that they'll probably still be below average after I take DE for a month, or even six months. If I do get around to trying it, I'll post the results down in the alternative health forum, even if I'm wrong. Not as any kind of proof, but just for anyone who is interested. For what it's worth, everything is poison in excess.