Raw Milk Sales Being legalized in Indiana!!

I kept a cow or two when my children were growing up. Noone ever got sick, but I've been in commercial parlors, and my cows were cleaner. I've talked to dairy farmers that wouldn't drink their own milk. That made an impression on me. It seems that any time ANYTHING is produced on a commercial scale, the quality goes down. Isn't that the reason most of us raise our own produce or keep our own livestock?

Some are convinced that pasteurized milk is totally safe.........all you need to do is go to the CDC web site and do a search for "contaminated pasteurized milk."........

Here is the absract from the first article:
Abstract
An outbreak of multidrug-resistant Salmonella enterica serotype Typhimurium infections occurred in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. A case-control study implicated pasteurized milk from a dairy, and an inspection indicated the potential for contamination after pasteurization. Dairy cattle are the likely reservoir, and milk may be an important vehicle of Salmonella transmission to humans.
Pasteurization, or heat treatment, of milk is an important milestone in public health that contributed to dramatic declines in many infectious diseases. Despite the important public health gains achieved, outbreaks associated with pasteurized milk continue to occur (1–3). We describe a recent outbreak associated with pasteurized milk.

the link:
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/10/...84_article.htm

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OOPS!!.....according to the CDC one can also get salmonella poisoning from pasteurized milk also!!

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"When you are having dinner with someone and they are nice to you, but rude to the waiter, then this is not a nice person.".....Dave Barry

1500 cases???......Really????

Even the FDA on their web site claimed 800 people over 10 years!!!! Let me think........your 'source' has found almost 20 times as many cases as the FDA claimed?!?!

Oh!!!.....but when the same data from the FDA was researched (CDC) by an independent researcher.......the independent researcher only found 41 cases over the same 10 years.

So, I e-mailed the FDA and I asked them how I could confirm their claim of 800 cases. I wonder why they never responded to my question..???

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Is raw milk safer in Ohio than other states????

When I reviewed 11 years of data (CDC), there was not one single confirmed case of anyone getting sick from raw milk!!!!

According to the CDC, about 3% of the population drink raw milk. Ohio has about 11 million people. To use round figures.....3% X 10 million = 300,000 people who drink raw milk.

Let me calculate.......if each of those people drank 1 glass of raw milk per day.....that would come out to 109,500,000 glasses of raw milk consumed each year in Ohio. Oh....and that data covered 11 years....so that would indicate that 1,204,501,400 glasses of raw milk were consumed without anyone getting sick.

Is raw milk different in Ohio?????

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Thank you for the update.

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"When you are having dinner with someone and they are nice to you, but rude to the waiter, then this is not a nice person.".....Dave Barry

The last time I checked, there are very few things in this world that do not have some element of risk........

Are the "anti-raw" people sayig that if anyone has died, gotten sick or injured from an activity, then no one sholuld e allowed to participate in that activity???

Do you draw some sort of line somewhere?????

Should sky diving be banned??

Every drug has some kind of side-effects.......sould all drugs be banned??? (Pharmacuetical firms wold love to find drugs with no side-effects.)

People die in car accidents.......shold driving be banned??

The chances are slim, but people have died in plane crashes....shold air travel be banned???

The CDC says that pasteurization is NOT totally safe.......should pasteurized milk be banned???

Of course, I am being facetious.........just wondering where do you draw the line..??????

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"When you are having dinner with someone and they are nice to you, but rude to the waiter, then this is not a nice person.".....Dave Barry

For me personally, it's reasonable risk assessment. It just makes sense to ameliorate risk when the "cost" of doing so is small. Pasteurizing your milk is like wearing a seat belt, IMO. The "cost" is small compared to the potential benefit.

That's not the case with all foods. For instance, say I have a craving for a nice, crunchy green salad. In order to enjoy one, I'm going to have to run the risk of eating contaminated greens. There isn't an effective way to sterilize the produce without indelibly altering its composition. Wilted greens are delicious, too, but they're not a salad!

The same isn't true of milk. Pasteurized milk is virtually indistinguishable from raw. Heating it does result in a small loss of nutrients, but that's an acceptable trade-off, AFAIC, considering the pathogens that might be present in the raw state.

That's my personal opinion. I recognize others may be of a different one, so ... Slap a warning label on raw milk ... let people make an informed decision. Require producers and sellers to carry liability coverage to pick up the tab when people get sick. (Notice I say "when," not "if.") That pretty much covers it!

There is still a chance that innocent folks will be unwittingly hurt in this equation ... I believe a bunch of children were sickened awhile back after a parent served raw milk at a school function (IIRC). I'm not sure how we get around that possibility without a cumbersome law. Perhaps holding the responsible party liable for damages would be a sufficient deterrent. Let a few people get sued out the wazoo, and that should make the rest more cautious.

I hope and pray this raw milk craze won't hurt the dairy industry too badly, as that's how I make part of my living! I think it would be a shame if conventional milk gets a black eye over this. But ...people who forget history are doomed to repeat it, and it seems we're destined to go down this road. Let's hope it's a short trip, and not too many folks are harmed before the public comes to its senses.

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Since the OP has always been concerned about thread drift and hijacking other threads, why don't we just save HT a lot of storage and just recycle some of the previous threads and save a lot of time for more important things?

http://homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=417208
http://homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=413900
http://homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=401075
http://homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=336379

Martin

Interesting is in a LOT of other countries after milk is bought raw it is traditional to boil it before drinking.