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01/16/12, 12:55 PM
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It's highly dependent on someone's point of reference. To some people I'm liberal, to others I'm conservative. It all depends on where they stand. Don't worry.
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01/16/12, 02:34 PM
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I would take it as a compliment.
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Me too! That was the Good Ole Days.LOL
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01/16/12, 02:48 PM
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Definitions of a Hippie
A Hippie is a person who was raised under the ideological system that came out of the tumultuous 1960's in North America and western Europe. They are either of the flower-child/baby boomer generation or that generations' subsequent offspring. They possess a core belief set revolving around the values of peace and love as being essential in an increasingly globalized society, and they are oftentimes associated with non-violent anti-governmental groups. There is a stigma of drug abuse attached to the hippies that is prevalent to this day, specifically the use and abuse of marijuana and hallucinagens. Many rock movements,poets, artists, and writers from the 1960's to today have associated with this movement, most prominently The Grateful Dead, Bob Dylan, Janis Joplin, and Phish. There are others too numerous to name. The movement, then and now, is considered a sub-culture by sociologists that associates itself with the left in all its political opinions. The conservative right often berates and abuses the opinions of people who associate themselves with the hippie movement and/or lifestyle, as the consider it dangerous and degenerative to a society to favor liberalism to such an extent.
a person with a non-conformist state of mind. non-conformist in the sense that they don't conform to the socially accepted, but in return conform to other hippies with the same peace of mind ideaology. not always disillusioned by the use of psychedelics, marajuana, or other drugs. which is a common misconception. their common ambitions are for a utopia. they are anti war, many are vegeterian, and act in non violent protest (if they do use violence they are hypocritical) it is unfair to make steriotypes of these people who just want to live their lives with equality and love, and peace.
"Hippies started the ecology movement. They combated racism. They liberated sexual stereotypes, encouraged change, individual pride, and self-confidence. They questioned robot materialism. In four years they managed to stop the Vietnam War. They got marijuana decriminalized in fourteen states during the Carter Administration."
Originally a term thought to be used by Harlem's black neighborhoods to describe the white "flower children" who could come and go without trouble. From the 50's; stemmed from the bohemian movement started by professors and students in the San Francisco bay region who were experimenting with acid's effects. The idea spread in the mid to late sixties with the help of the Grateful Dead and the Merry Pranksters as they toured the country, and eventually organized the Electric Kool Aid Acid Tests (a book was named after these).
As the Vietnam War continued, those opposed to the war joined together under the leadership of such people as Abbey Hoffman, who helped radicalize the anti-war movement of the seventies. The police, or the "fuzz," eventually tried to stem the prolific drug use by recriminalizing marijuana, and making LSD illegal, thus uniting "hippies" and their activist counterparts, the "yippies," under one common struggle aimed personally against them and their friends' "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness". Also during this time was the sexual revolution, which got women out of the kitchen and into the workforce, and eroded many taboos of the time.
Generally, there was a move toward utopianism, where everyone would have everything they needed to survive - thus, people often only had one set of clothes, which were dyed and redyed, patched, mended, faded, torn, and dirty. As with the rampant homelessness and vagabond life, soap and trimmed hair were considered secondary, and sometimes unnecessary in the great scheme of things.
As time went on, the touring Grateful Dead had a major following which brought new generations into the movement; the Rainbow Family continues the utopian tradition today; and organizations such as NORML and Greenpeace came from 1970's idealism.
TV shows such as Southpark portray hippies as tie-dyed, pot smoking, dumb high school dropouts, who can organize a gathering, but don't actually do anything to stand up for what they believe in or are protesting. This is a typical stereotype across American media.
Often, the "hippie" stereotype includes a teenaged to 50-60 year old adult who believes that peace, love, and happiness is there for anyone who wants it. They tend to be non-conformist, are considered liberal, and left-wing politically, often, if registered to vote, are independents or democrats. They don't regularly cut their hair or buy new things, and tend to wear the same, faded clothes for years, some of them patched and re-dyed many times. Many are environmentalists, pacifists, and nonviolent.
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01/16/12, 04:07 PM
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I know what it is, they have gotten you confused with me LOL I'd just take it as a complement if I were you. After all, some of us old hippies are pretty good folks
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Yep, I can honestly say I have never met a hippie, or a redneck that I didnt like. Pretty good folks all around in spite of a few minor cultural differences. Given my druthers though, I would rather eat with the rednecks. They seem to understand food pretty good. Hippies? not so much.
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01/16/12, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mary,tx
It's true that 18 year olds have to register with Selective Service, but I am one who is thankful we no longer have a draft.
I think legal age for drinking might be different state to state. I'm pretty sure here in Texas an 18 year old is considered an adult.
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No ma'am Miss Mary, you have to be 21 here in Texas for drinking. Voting is 18.
As to the Hippie label. I wear it proudly. My Momma was a Hippie back in the day, and raised me to be proud of who you are. I'll be 47 in June, have hair down to my fanny, and tatoos. Couldn't care less if others like them or not. I actually get the best comments from little old ladies! 
They seem to love the one that covers most of my right arm!
Don't worry about what anyone else thinks of you, be proud of who you are and what you've done. That's all that matters.
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01/16/12, 09:03 PM
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Take it as a complement. All the old hippies I know are hard working,straight talking, honest poeple who are great to know. I love my hippie-witch doctor title. Anyone who knows me knows I have never smoked, done drugs or been to far out witht he politics (even though I abhor what is going on right now).
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01/16/12, 09:17 PM
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People tend to label what they don't understand.
I've never been called a hippie but I have been called...........Mother Earth!
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01/16/12, 09:47 PM
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...I am 59, .........
......... So what am I missing???? Why was I a hippie? Why am I still described as a hippie???? And what is WRONG if I AM ONE??????
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You are a hippie because of when you were born, the lifestyle you led and the ideals that you held to.
What you are not is 'boomer bourgeoisie', 'yuppie', 'generation X' or 'echo boomer' (aka generation Y).
There's nothing wrong with being a hippie or having anyone else identify you as a hippie. Hippie is an honorific and represents ideals to be proud of.
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01/17/12, 05:13 PM
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I grew up as a teen in the 60's and I keep the same values that I did then. Proud to be called a Hippie! I love, we live in a small town of 500, about a 1/4of the population being Hippies and the other 3/4 Rednecks. We all get along most of the time, but it does irratate me when (my house can be hard to find) the neighbor says when someone asks for directions to my house " You mean the Hippies up the road?" Funny he buys fruit, veggies, eggs, ect. from me because I'm organic.
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01/20/13, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mary,tx
It's true that 18 year olds have to register with Selective Service, but I am one who is thankful we no longer have a draft.
I think legal age for drinking might be different state to state. I'm pretty sure here in Texas an 18 year old is considered an adult.
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I think it's foolish to have a "legal drinking age." And I think it's abominable that 18 year old males have to register for the draft -- which is, after all, what the Selective Service is about. So we may not have an active draft in that we're not calling anyone up to be cannon fodder, but we do have the draft.
Re: Drinking, it might be a way better idea to teach responsible drinking from a young age.
And it's a darned good idea to do away with the draft entirely. No need for it at all.
But I'm pretty idealistic.
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01/20/13, 07:16 PM
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I'm younger than a lot of you (born in 82) and hippie doesn't appear to mean the same thing to me as the OP.
To me and most people my age, a hippie is someone that stays away from chemicals, grows food and other items they could buy from the store, and and is generally close to nature. My friends call me a hippie all the time, and it sounds like you are one too
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01/20/13, 07:33 PM
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I wanted to be a hippie but was born to late but suffered through the dreadful 70's and the money hungry 80's and the doleful 90's. I don't think I began enjoying myself until the 2000s.
I was called a hippie though at the farm, I grew veggies, raised food, and lived in a barn house. All my life I have lived divided. Corporate during the day and a back to the lander after 5.
It is no wonder I am so screwed up..lol..
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01/20/13, 08:04 PM
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Well I had Long Grey Hair and Beard,was kind of scrongy,had Kids wanting to buy off me,I never delt but did smoke some.Was in late 30's worked as a Supervisor at a Seed Plant.
Anymore pretty clean.
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01/20/13, 08:07 PM
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Oh forgot durring the '60's I wore Neroos,Love Beads and did the War Protest thing then joined USMC
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01/20/13, 08:16 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that, BamaSuzy. I've called a few people "Hippy Libs", yet there has never been anyone ever do that to me, at least off the internet. I've been told that I scare those who are moderately conservative, and I've made the Chaplian at one of my units very nervous. What happened was that after a few of our junior people were caught DUI, and a few not very junior, the Chaplain sat down with all the E-6's to discuss how we might be able to encourage "Responsible Drinking". I stated that we might not ought to encourage "Responsible Drinking". Perhaps we should encourage sobriety and tolerate "Responsible Drinking"? I suggested that we appoint a "Temperance Petty Officer" to help enforce the no driving while intoxicated? Now, there are a few words in our language that while not profane are extremely direct, and rarely used in moderate company. "Temperance" is one of those words. It was likely dropped from everyday conversation, because it made drunkards uneasy. On another occasion the OIC came to me regarding the temp trailers for berthing. I showed him the layout of the units being delivered and showed him what each space was for. When I pointed out how far apart the male berthing was from the female berthing, I explained that it helped prevent fornication (another one of those words), and his eyes got very large. The offical term was "Inappropriate Relationships". If you refrain from profanity and start using those very old school words that sound all mean, I assure you no one will ever call you a "Hippy" "Liberal" or any other of those names. When those words appear in general discusion, people do start rechecking their P's & Q's.
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01/20/13, 08:36 PM
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Never much cared what anyone called me, so long as it isn't "dead."
Don't worry about it. Like many others have said, it's a compliment -- even if they don't realize that.
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01/20/13, 09:32 PM
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I would consider it an insult. The hippies of today are nothing like the old school ones. Most are a bunch of elitists or wannabes that play dress up. The rest are a bunch of kids looking for the party.
My friends and family call me odd. That is the way to go. It is real.
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01/20/13, 10:24 PM
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I spoze i have earned the label.. Long haired grateful dead following barefooted communeish living communitarian silly hat wearing multi-colored antique VW truck driving scientist, mechanic, back to the lander, woodstove cooking, minimalist and lover of the earth. Because that's what i like to be and do.
My reaction to being labeled a hippie is one of curiousness. I ask "What is a hippie to you?" The answers I get are often accurate and rarely carry much negative connotations. When it does, my reaction is to to ask to hear more about it so i can understand. Maybe I'll learn something about the other or about myself.
I'm pleased with myself all in all, so I'm unapologetic about what i like and what i do and what i look like. I'm genuinely disinterested in changing myself to conform with what somebody else wants me to be, so I'm not defensive about it. I'm just not. Mostly, I'm just curious.
Conversations with people about what a hippie is help me determine who i do and do not want to keep around in my life. There are a lot of people. I choose to keep around the ones i like.
People who like me, like me and I keep them around and
People who don't don't and I don't.
Pretty easy.
Please take it easy on yourself. That means I recommend you do and be what feels right and do good work.
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01/20/13, 10:37 PM
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I am 65 and have farmed since 68 or 9 on my own. I was never called a hippie. Course, it wouldnt have been healthy for somone to have called me that. Were about the same age, We are now farmers, Why would they call yo that, and not me??
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01/20/13, 10:53 PM
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I think legal age for drinking might be different state to state. I'm pretty sure here in Texas an 18 year old is considered an adult.
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Nope, you can vote at 18 in Texas, and be legally bound in a contract at 18, but you have to be 21 to buy and drink a beer. Which means if you are under 21 and you are caught drinking a beer, that will go on your adult record as underage alcohol consumption.
However, the reason isn't because 18 year old are too immature to drink. It is because between the age of 18 and 21, the frontal lobe of the brain (which is about judgement and emotional control) undergoes a BIG growth spurt of connecting synapses, and regular consumption of alcohol, or drugs, inhibit this connective growth.
Which means a person who drank or used drugs heavily between the ages of 18 and 21 has poorer judgement and emotional control than they would have had if they had refrained from mind-altering substances during that time frame.
~grinz~ If, however, you are currently serving in the military, and you are under the age of 21, you can go to an on-base bar for your rank and get as drunk as you like. The military doesn't care if you mess up your future decision making abilities or emotional control.
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