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Old 03/13/13, 02:30 PM
 
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Thanh you, guys. A lot more to think about I guess. Mike
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What's wrong with Florida, Texas, Alabama, Arkansas.....?
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Old 03/18/13, 02:58 PM
 
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Not liking the new "Obama Lifestyle" too much. More of a "Let me Be Able To Protect Myself" Kinda guy. Willing to look to most any country though. Just looked like Belize might be a good start. Mike
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Old 03/18/13, 03:35 PM
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They have no-see-ums down there too. These things are absolutely evil! They lived in the jungles of Veracruz and I got to experience them when I lived there. They seem to prefer Gringa over any other flavor of food. They are so small that they can go through mosquito screen. I am extremely allergic to the little spawn's of satan.

Hope you have a source of income. I'm sure it is the same there as it is in Mexico. Unlike here in the US, other governments want to make sure their citizens have a job and are very vigilant to make sure that non-citizens don't take those jobs away.

I love Mexico and would be living there now if it weren't for the fact that I'm single. Being constantly hit on wears you down after a while. I honestly feel safer there(violent crime wise) than I do in most of the US.

Something else to consider is travel expense. No matter how hard you try, you will be making a few trips to the US every year. Further is more expensive.
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Old 03/18/13, 03:37 PM
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Not liking the new "Obama Lifestyle" too much. More of a "Let me Be Able To Protect Myself" Kinda guy. Willing to look to most any country though. Just looked like Belize might be a good start. Mike
I don't blame you. You need to check out gun policies in any country you are considering moving to. The US is one of the few countries in the world where we have the freedom to own firearms.....at least for a little while longer maybe.
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Not liking the new "Obama Lifestyle" too much. More of a "Let me Be Able To Protect Myself" Kinda guy. Willing to look to most any country though. Just looked like Belize might be a good start. Mike
Fear of the second ammendment is not a part of life in the rural Southwest. I put it on with my pants every morning and wear it everywhere I go except into to liquior stores, banks and federal buildings. No problem. I have run into a few folks, time to time, from New York, Michigan, and especially Canada who were terrified when they found I was not a peace officer but still went armed.

I politely told the canadians that they were on private property and offroading on pasture land, which was considered rude at best locally, all with a smile on my face. They responded by begging me not to shoot them. I responded by begging them not to run over me in their rental car. They said "why would we run over you?" I said "why would I shoot you? We don't shoot people for being ignorant and rude, any more than you run them down for being right."

We never did reach a meeting of the minds.

I will tell you this. While state laws may destroy private gun ownership in New York and other eastern liberal states, the American Southwest, that is the area between the Pecos and Colorado rivers, will not be disarmed. Everyone I know is convinced that the signal that a government is ready to throw out the Constitution is the forcing of gun registration and right afterwords confiscation. This may someday be a war zone, but it will be an active war zone with plenty of ordnace on both sides of the conflict.

You protect yourself by protecting your rights. Right here, you have more rights than anywhere else in the world. Stay here and protect them. Our rights, unlike those anywhere else, are not granted by government. We were born with them, and will have them only as long as we refuse to give them up.

Read the Constitution. Read the federalist papers. Don't let tyranny chase you across the globe from one bananna republic to another. Sooner or later, you have to make a stand. i'd rather stand here than anywhere else. This is the birthplace of liberty. Liberty is the natural condition of all mankind. It won't survive, though, if everyone who embraces it thinks the right thing to do is to find a hiding place and pull his hole in after him. I challenge you to be a real American. You can't do that in Belize......Joe
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Old 03/19/13, 06:46 AM
 
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House Hunters International would not be my first preferred source of information.

HAR!!! Yeah, I think you have a REAL good point there.
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Old 03/19/13, 07:30 AM
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Not liking the new "Obama Lifestyle" too much. More of a "Let me Be Able To Protect Myself" Kinda guy. Willing to look to most any country though. Just looked like Belize might be a good start. Mike
Private citizens are not allowed to keep weapons or ammunition in Belize. A pellet gun is about the max you can own.
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Old 03/19/13, 08:01 AM
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Private citizens are not allowed to keep weapons or ammunition in Belize. A pellet gun is about the max you can own.
Guns laws are tough there, but you can own more than a pellet gun.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/belize
http://ambergriscaye.com/help/article-2.html
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Old 03/19/13, 07:59 PM
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The availability of gun licenses and the ability to get one are two different things. They are very hard to get, especially if you are not a citizen.

Now if you have a good contact in the government or make a large donation to the registration clerk's favorite charity you may improve your chances dramatically.

Its Belize, you have to spend some time there to appreciate how things work (or don't work).

Memories from Belize:

I remember standing on a street corner in Belize City years ago when the new session of the Supreme Court was formally seated. The justices walked out a side door and got into Ford Explorers. They drove around the block and got out at the front steps of the court. A band started to play and the Belizian citizen next to me remarked, "They're liars, each and every one of them."

The family was headed to the airport in Belize City from the Stann Creek District (southern Belize) in a rented conversion van. We came around the corner on a dirt road and saw a snake crossing the road. It stretched all the way across the road and we couldn't see the head or the tail. We ran it over about 45 miles an hour. I immediately slammed on the brakes and backed up. No sign of the snake, it had made its way into the jungle that quick.

Belize City is not a good place to be if you don't know your way around.

It is insanely hot and humid in the summer. When it pours it is like when they dump the big bucket at the indoor water parks. You literally can't see 100 ft away. I stop shaving in the summer because just using a razor is enough to give me a rash that takes prescription medication to make go away.

If you have a place there and leave for any amount of time you will have to have a caretaker onsite to keep you from being ripped off.

The first time I landed at the Belize City airport I was very surprise to see Harrier jets parked outside their hangers on the taxi back to the gate. Turns out the Brits have a defense pact with the BDF (Belize Defense Force) and they train there regularly.
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