pbs special on gmo potatoes from monsanto

arabian knight · #81 12/31/11, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Heritagefarm

You assume that the toxin created to the corn is exactly the same as the one produced by the bacteria. That's a big assumption there, one that you can't support any more than your fake anti-AGW propaganda.
And also, yes, there is something to kill. If you had even minimal knowledge of chemistry, you'd know that some molecules are destroyed by heat and others are more resistant to high temperatures. So is the Bt toxin destroyed by heat or not is a better question.

This kind of thread always just goes back and forth, back and forth, Nobody is going to change their mind. Some are so ingrained into this natural stuff, some can't see any other way period. Even though science has been put there now for years and things are safe.

texican · #82 12/31/11, 12:30 PM

Tell ya'll what...
Try and live off just vitamins and minerals and see how far you get! Ever try living off of just pills?
Bet you a nickel that I could survive longer with nutrients than I could without...
Amazing how far a small bottle of vitamins will get you, if you have several tons of food stored about.

rambler · #83 12/31/11, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by arabian knight

This kind of thread always just goes back and forth, back and forth, Nobody is going to change their mind. Some are so ingrained into this natural stuff, some can't see any other way period. Even though science has been put there now for years and things are safe.

I'll disagree with you in a way.

Nothing is safe.

Natural foods are not safe.

Organic foods are not safe.

Highly processed foods are not safe.

Neither is a bucket of water - not safe.

We hav to pick our degree of safety level.

Lot of food born illnesses come from organic produce that is fertilized with manure.

Lot of risk in raw milk.

But - some people have a graspof those risks, and use those foods anyhow.

No different with GMO feeds and foods. They have some risk, but those who look into it and understand it see the benifits, and use the products, and move on.

Safe? You can wrap yourself in cotton & stay in bed 24/7, and you are not 'safe'. Michael Jackson slept in an oxygen bubble to keep himself 'safe' and see where that led to.

Organic foods, GMO foods, there is nothing 'safe' in this world.

Lot of folks get ill or die from poorly prepared or preserved food, and that tends to be more likely organic foods, but many condiser them 'safer' for some reason. It's human nature - people fear the unknown, and as one person admitted, many just don't want to be bothered with learning and knowing more about the feeds and food we have.

There are levels of risk. Nothing is 'safe.'

--->Paul

Bearfootfarm · #84 12/31/11, 12:44 PM

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You assume that the toxin created to the corn is exactly the same as the one produced by the bacteria. That's a big assumption there, one that you can't support any more than your fake anti-AGW propaganda

Are you saying the microbiologists who developed it don't know what endotoxin it produces?

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If you had even minimal knowledge of chemistry, you'd know that some molecules are destroyed by heat and others are more resistant to high temperatures.

I don't see you supporting anything with any real data, but you keep claiming superior knowledge.

Why not share it and convince us you're correct?