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braggscowboy 12/22/11 10:31 PM

How would you like to meet up with this dude in the dark?
 
My friends and neighbor, hog hunters caught this thing a couple days ago with dogs. Bayed him and the hunters caught him live and now have him in a pen. Will fatten him out and sell him at the auction barn. He was not hurt, nor any dogs or humans. Many times they get dogs cut up or killed sometimes. This hog is kind of unusal to have tusks that big and caught live, at least for here.
http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/a...edownload1.jpg

Rod Torgeson 12/22/11 11:52 PM

Saw a program on TV not long ago about people hunting these dudes. They are not in any way friendly. No thanks, I would not like to meet up with one in the dark or in the light.

mamaof3peas 12/23/11 12:01 AM

Ok thanks!! Now I'm even more afraid to walk in the dark in the timber!! Lol

mamaof3peas 12/23/11 12:02 AM

Eeeeeek!! In Oklahoma!? Now I def am afraid of the dark timber!

ne prairiemama 12/23/11 12:04 AM

I've only been around farm pigs. I've heard the willd guys can be pretty unfriendly though. He looks kinda crabby and toothy yet a teency bit cute.

Old Vet 12/23/11 12:06 AM

I met up with his grand pa at dark one night. He almost filled the boat we were in. I shot him with a 30-06 at 10 feet and it didn't go through. I was hunting beavers but had a 30-06 because of him and his cousins.

Harry Chickpea 12/23/11 12:06 AM

You caught one of my old bosses!

snowshoehair 12/23/11 12:52 AM

I hope he doesn't get out before he gets fattened up and sent to auction.... he may be holding a grudge!

naturelover 12/23/11 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by braggscowboy (Post 5585002)
My friends and neighbor, hog hunters caught this thing a couple days ago with dogs. Bayed him and the hunters caught him live and now have him in a pen. Will fatten him out and sell him at the auction barn. He was not hurt, nor any dogs or humans. Many times they get dogs cut up or killed sometimes. This hog is kind of unusal to have tusks that big and caught live, at least for here.

Do those wild hogs taste raunchy? I ask because of an incident that happened here 10 years ago. Some hunters up in the arid desert interior of my province caught a huge, fat wild boar that looked just like the one in your picture, including having the long tusks and coarse black hair. Wild tuskers or wild hogs of any kind are an extremely rare thing to come across here in BC so it made the news.

Anyway, they caught it alive, showed it on the TV news and then sold it to some Vietnamese farmers that wanted to eat it. They were my neighbours so I saw it while it was still alive and although it was clean and in clean quarters it smelled so bad, the reek of it was unbearable, like to knock me flat on my back. I've never smelled any other intact boar that smelled like that. They kept it for a month until they were satisfied with its condition, said they were "sweetening" it up, (I don't know how they did that but they fed it good food) then they slaughtered it. Apparently the tusks were a great prize to them and those were the first things they took from it when it was dead. I was offered a small portion of the meat to cook and the meat smelled so raunchy and foul there was no way I was going to cook it and try to eat it so I refused their offer.

So I was just wondering if all wild boars smell that bad and if the meat tastes just as bad. If so, why would anyone want to eat it?

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Backfourty,MI. 12/23/11 06:53 AM

There were quite a few that got loose awhile back from a hunting ranch not too far from us. DNR has instructed folks every where in the state to shoot any wild hogs they see.

pheasantplucker 12/23/11 07:18 AM

Would he make a good pet for my grandchildren?

braggscowboy 12/23/11 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by naturelover (Post 5585244)
Do those wild hogs taste raunchy? I ask because of an incident that happened here 10 years ago. Some hunters up in the arid desert interior of my province caught a huge, fat wild boar that looked just like the one in your picture, including having the long tusks and coarse black hair. Wild tuskers or wild hogs of any kind are an extremely rare thing to come across here in BC so it made the news.

Anyway, they caught it alive, showed it on the TV news and then sold it to some Vietnamese farmers that wanted to eat it. They were my neighbours so I saw it while it was still alive and although it was clean and in clean quarters it smelled so bad, the reek of it was unbearable, like to knock me flat on my back. I've never smelled any other intact boar that smelled like that. They kept it for a month until they were satisfied with its condition, said they were "sweetening" it up, (I don't know how they did that but they fed it good food) then they slaughtered it. Apparently the tusks were a great prize to them and those were the first things they took from it when it was dead. I was offered a small portion of the meat to cook and the meat smelled so raunchy and foul there was no way I was going to cook it and try to eat it so I refused their offer.

So I was just wondering if all wild boars smell that bad and if the meat tastes just as bad. If so, why would anyone want to eat it?

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The eat one once in a while, some do smell but not all. The big boars or more likely. Some they will, when small castrate them and they will become more or less like a domestic pig. As wind in her hair stated, they can get mean when cornered or when doing something they don't like. A lot of people don't realize, me included, that they can run for miles and I mean miles when chasing them with hops. They will circle, hit the river and about anything any other wild animal will do to get away. They use kevlar vests on dogs, but still loose one once in a while. All in the name of sport, but it helps their income when they catch alive. If things continue, everyone will have them in their front yard, because of the #'s. We would never see one around here hardly, but now they are run over on the highway. I recall my dad killing one back when I was a teenager, a feral big white hog that someone had lost. This hog was so big, estimated to be around 800 pounds live weight with tusks that circled about 6" circle. He was butchered, did not stink, but as he cooled his meat began to have worms crawl out. No good, did not try to eat. Meat looked good, but we did not try it.

Chief Cook 12/23/11 09:41 AM

An old rancher told us that "Ifn he smells bad, he'll taste the same." The boar that DH took smelled like mountain dirt and when we opened him up, he smelled like fresh meat. I suspect it depends on what they have been eating and the "condition" of the ladies in their area. Good luck with it.

CornerstoneAcre 12/23/11 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind in Her Hair (Post 5585463)
Piney woods rooter

Truth is - if you meet them in the dark - its not such an issue - they bark and run - but grab one of the baby squealers and the race is on -they are after YOU. :run:

Too funny - my mom told me stories of when she used to do this in Florida as a kid.

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Originally Posted by Backfourty,MI. (Post 5585305)
There were quite a few that got loose awhile back from a hunting ranch not too far from us. DNR has instructed folks every where in the state to shoot any wild hogs they see.

Yep, I've seen those public service announces too!!

neurochicken 12/23/11 10:06 AM

Wooooooo pig, sooooieeeeee!!! :D

Growing up (in Arkansas, obviously) I never realized how a "pig" was in any way a formidable mascot. I've since figured it out, and this reinforces it!!! Wow!

Thanks for even more reasons for me to be afraid of the dark...

OkieDavid 12/23/11 10:10 AM

Got a report from the US Fish and Wildlife Service that said with the reproductive capacity of hogs, you would have to remove 75% of the population each year JUST TO MAINTAIN the current population.... These rascals are going to continue to expand their numbers until they reach conditions to tough for their survival.

mary,tx 12/23/11 10:22 AM

Wait. Do you mean to say that they accept these things at the auction barn where you are?:huh:

mamita 12/23/11 10:47 AM

WIHH...my biggest memory of living in TX as a child was watching out for feral hogs. scared the living bejeebers out of me!

two years ago there was a big deal here, as some pigs got loose from a nearby farm. we were advised to shoot, as they become feral quickly. I kept hoping for bacon...lol...but I guess they moved farther north. :)

mamita 12/23/11 10:51 AM

oh...and NO I sure wouldn't want to see that dude any time of day or night!


nor do I want to see what carted my HUGE pumpkins away that I had sitting out back. no signs of eating (like some bears will just tromp thru and leave a mess). taken away. and no...humans were not involved in the pumpkin theft! I had left them down beyond the dog pens near my compost pile (in the woods) thinking they'd begin to smoosh and I'd take seeds. whatever took them....don't want to meet them! :)

KEW_Farms 12/23/11 12:27 PM

Nice hog...we had one just like it, tusks and all, when I was growing up; he was one of our best boars...kept all the sows happy ; ) If you come around with feed everyday he'll warm up to you...pigs are pretty smart and don't forget domestic animals.

luvrulz 12/23/11 12:33 PM

We used to live trap the wild ones, keep them for about 60 days, feed them corn and table scraps and then butcher them.....or hog roast them...yummo! Mighty fine eating if you dug a pit and roasted them. We had several deliver babies and stuff while we had them. Didn't taste any different and they were all over Venice, FL.....caught them everywhere!

Nevada 12/23/11 12:48 PM

When I was a firefighter we had a fundraising BBQ each summer. We always roasted two pigs for the event, and we had to help with the slaughtering & de-hairing of the pigs.

We would kill them with a 22 shot to the forehead, then bleed them out. On one pig, as we pulled back the skin on the forehead it was apparent that the bullet had not penetrated the skull, since the wad of lead was flattened on the skull.

My theory was that the shot only knocked the pig unconscious. I couldn't help but wonder what kind of mood that boar would have been in if he had woken up before he was cut.

Pinky1441 12/23/11 01:04 PM

We are close enough to have these guys (some up to 30 at a time) run around here. I have not personally tasted them but know MANY who keep a freezer full of them at any given time. We have thought about hunting them ourselves, but I often wonder too, if they are strong flavored. I have never had the guts to eat them.

Use Less 12/23/11 01:37 PM

They have found their way into central New York state, possibly escaped from "game preserves" established for rent-a-hunt. DEC put out for deer hunters to shoot 'em on sight.

Oldcountryboy 12/23/11 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by braggscowboy (Post 5585002)
Will fatten him out and sell him at the auction barn.http://i945.photobucket.com/albums/a...edownload1.jpg

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Originally Posted by mary,tx (Post 5585562)
Wait. Do you mean to say that they accept these things at the auction barn where you are?:huh:

Yep, theres a auction barn nearby me that specializes in pigs and quit often you see wild hogs come through. Most of the buying public will not bid on these cause they are wild, hard to keep penned up, and somewhat very dangerous. Therefore the auction barn owner usually buys them up at a very, very, low price. He then turns around and sells them to hunting clubs at a much higher price. The hunting clubs charge hundreds or thousands for some rich dude to come and hunt it and kill it.

Braggscowboy, it would be better if they just sold him directly to hunting club as soon as possible and let them deal with the fattening up cause if they take it to a auction barn they will have a hard time getting their feed money back out of it.

big rockpile 12/23/11 01:39 PM

Killed this one the other day.Very Good Eating,my wife says better than Store Bought.As far as at night we have been out listening for them to come to Bait,when they do,hit them with Light and shoot fast because they will be gone as fast as they came.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...hot/004-27.jpg

big rockpile

braggscowboy 12/23/11 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcountryboy (Post 5585864)
Yep, theres a auction barn nearby me that specializes in pigs and quit often you see wild hogs come through. Most of the buying public will not bid on these cause they are wild, hard to keep penned up, and somewhat very dangerous. Therefore the auction barn owner usually buys them up at a very, very, low price. He then turns around and sells them to hunting clubs at a much higher price. The hunting clubs charge hundreds or thousands for some rich dude to come and hunt it and kill it.

Braggscowboy, it would be better if they just sold him directly to hunting club as soon as possible and let them deal with the fattening up cause if they take it to a auction barn they will have a hard time getting their feed money back out of it.

I think you are talking about Leach auction.They tried that one, and as you said, did not go well. The have sold to the clubs before around OKC, but so many hogs any more it is more difficult to get rid of them. I think he will take some to Wister sale. Someone will buy it to have the head mounted I'm sure. He has a couple of mounts that look like this one and they are nice mounts, but costs a lot to get done.

big rockpile 12/23/11 01:49 PM

Oh forgot to add everyone says Kill Them All but you mention Wild Hogs around here you have all kinds of New Friends wanting to go Hog Hunting.

Conservation Department told me to shoot them leave them lay if I don't want them.The ones around here stay pretty much to the river not causing trouble unless your trying to raise Corn.

Me I'll shoot what I need leave the rest be,their another Food Source for me.

big rockpile

big rockpile 12/23/11 01:56 PM

Here is one of my Mounts

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...00_1660pig.jpg

Here is a Gilt I killed

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...00_1162ht7.jpg

big rockpile

mary,tx 12/23/11 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind in Her Hair (Post 5585576)
a feral hog is just a domestic hog thats gotten loose and gone back to the "wild". Pen it, feed it, worm it and it'll be fit to sell at the auction barn, why not?

To most, the difference would be undiscernable - to the experienced eye -development differences due to lack of optimum nutrition is easily detected - too large a head for the size of body means an older hog than its body/weight would indictate, etc. No ear notches, uncut boar hogs, hogs carrying full undocked tails, an unthrifty hog - all those signs can possibly equal wild hogs.

Feral hogs are not like domestic hogs.

nadja 12/23/11 02:17 PM

Actually, the meat is fantastic. Almost no fat on them like a penned up hog would have. Best gun to shoot them with in the hills is a .44 mag pistola !

Ed Norman 12/23/11 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mary,tx (Post 5585933)
Feral hogs are not like domestic hogs.

Explain, please.

pancho 12/23/11 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mary,tx (Post 5585933)
Feral hogs are not like domestic hogs.

Feral hogs are just that, domestic hogs that have run wild.
Look up feral.

Bluesgal 12/23/11 03:42 PM

Met up with a pack of wild javelinas that decided to hang out on the road (four lane divided highway) instead of crossing it. We had a little "mexican standoff" till they decided to keep on going. For a bit there I think they thought about charging the car. THAT would've left a mark....

Dutchie 12/23/11 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by braggscowboy (Post 5585881)
I think you are talking about Leach auction.They tried that one, and as you said, did not go well. The have sold to the clubs before around OKC, but so many hogs any more it is more difficult to get rid of them. I think he will take some to Wister sale. Someone will buy it to have the head mounted I'm sure. He has a couple of mounts that look like this one and they are nice mounts, but costs a lot to get done.

I hate that Leach auction. It is appalling what they auction off. I have seen more sick animals there than anywhere else combined. Not real impressed with the way they handle the animals either.

Dutchie 12/23/11 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by big rockpile (Post 5585867)
As far as at night we have been out listening for them to come to Bait,when they do,hit them with Light and shoot fast because they will be gone as fast as they came.



How very sportsmanlike :umno:

mamaof3peas 12/23/11 04:37 PM

Well, great! I was told leach was a good place to get a cheap meat goat/sheep!

Dutchie 12/23/11 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mamaof3peas (Post 5586223)
Well, great! I was told leach was a good place to get a cheap meat goat/sheep!

It is. If you don't care about health and humane treatment :grin:

TriWinkle 12/23/11 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mary,tx (Post 5585933)
Feral hogs are not like domestic hogs.

:umno:

Dutchie 12/23/11 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind in Her Hair (Post 5586296)
thats actually pretty "sportsmanlike" considering that we baited them, caught them in permanent traps, and then shot them where they stood. We weren't doing it for sport - we were doing it to eliminate them. Period. These are NOT wildlife, Dutchie. We NEVER gave them a sporting chance. :shrug:

Feral hogs are a nuisance and they are extremely destructive when they have gone feral and cannot be controlled. They threaten domestic swine herds because they cannot be vaccinated against communicable diseases that will dessimate commercial swine herds. And they destroy farmer's fields, wildlife's native habitat, and improved fields, forests, and meadows.

It is a bonus that something that MUST be destroyed has some value to someone -either in the way of a trophy mount or in the way of edible meat.

Not everyone who kills a feral hog is happy about it or enjoys the "sport" of it - sometimes it just has to be done.

I believe I was responding to Rockpile. I am a hunter myself but would never take an animal the way he does. Nuisance or not.


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