How would you like to meet up with this dude in the dark?

You have to understand he wasn't hunting. He was doing population control and damage abatement. Rockpile would never use a feeder and lights to hunt elk or deer or anything else, but hogs are a completely different problem and require intense methods to try and control them.

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So do you now agree that sportsmanship has nothing to do with it?

If they are not eliminated or controlled, there will not be any ground dwelling birds ever hatch, young rabbits or turkeys or any animal that they can catch and this includes fawns that they can slip up on where the fawn tries to stay still. A hog will eat anything he pretty much can get in his mouth. Bad animals. Somethings must be controlled, even wild horses makes no difference if you like it or not, they will destroy themselves and the habitat of everthing that shares the habitat with them. Nothing prettier than wild horses---------------up to a point.

Said by one who has obviously not had a nice hay meadow "visited" by a group of feral hogs. Nothing sporting about protecring your property from an INVASIVE species.

They are a real problem in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. For some reason they had some penned up at a research area in the park and one of the workers was gored and killed a few years back. Those are some bad dudes.

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then you'd really not be happy w/ the USDA guys on MCAS Cherry Point. they go out on the flight line at night & w/ a BIG spotlight & silenced rifles. they blast about 6-12 deer a night until the area around the flight line is cleaned out. they do this a couple times a year for about 3-4 nights & kill about 2X as many deer as all the sport hunters kill on base in 15-16 weeks of regulated hunting. they do the same thing at all the airports in NC from charlotte east (another office is responsible for the rest of NC). they also take out any wildlife (coyotes, waterfowl, raptors etc) that spends too much time around the flightline. they do this because it is better to shoot a few critters than to have a 60 million dollar fighter crash because it hit a deer or have hundreds of people killed because a 747 smashed bambi on landing.
animal damage control is just that controlling the damage they do by controlling the population. sportsmanship has nothing to do with it.

now Big Rock, i take umbrage to your philosophy on the hogs. that mindset is a BIG part of how TX got into the mess they're in now. in 12 years the native deer population has been cut by half AT BEST while feral hog populations have quadrupled. EVERY nonnative invasive should be killed on sight. if you think about it; every starling is one less native songbird, every mute swan is one less trumpeter swan, every feral cat, red fox or eastern coyote is one less grey fox, bobcat, or ocelot, every nutria is one less muskrat & every hog is one less bear or a couple less deer. that is just from direct competition for food sources, not even counting other ways invasives damage the environment or adversely affect the native wildlife like spreading disease. so if a hunter is also a GOOD conservationist, he should kill EVERY nonnative wildlife at EVERY opportunity by WHATEVER means are available (within the limitations of the laws of course).

as for the original question, I'd LOVE to meet that sucker anytime day or night as long as i could bring the dogs & the mule tape.

I have been getting back into hog hunting and here is my dog on his 2nd time in a bay pen on a non-aggressive hog: my dog is a catahoula and it was his 2nd time seeing a hog. He really fired up on that one. The bay pen owner said he would be a good one so next week I will most likely be putting him on a more rank hog then take him out hunting in Oklahoma. My friend makes a living catching hogs live and he makes his income 2 times by being paid (sometimes) by the landowners then selling the hogs at auction. There are wild hogs in Kansas but the wildlife officers have really clamped down on hunting them on public lands but can't do anything about it if you do it on private lands. Lots of ranchers have been trapping them and sending them to auction where my friend sees them daily. Says they're more fun to work with than the cattle :-D

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Like WIHH said, they'd woof (if you ever got close enough) and run away... only ever an issue if you get one in a 'corner' and bayed.

My Grandpa raised ''hogs'' on 20K acres of timber company and private land, since the 20's... some would go half wild, but he usually caught all the pigs, and would cut the males... didn't need too many boars to keep the sows bred. He'd trap the easy ones, and the wilder ones were caught with dogs. This was before the fancy nancy protection suits dogs now wear... I've seen dogs slit from stem to stern... and survive a good sewing job.


Yes, all boars taste gamey as all get out. If you love half cooked kidneys, with the 'juice' still emanating from them, you'd love wild boar!

I will feed a boar to the dogs... but I won't eat one, unless I'm close to starving... few years back, I was trying to keep the hogs out of my meadow, took the 300lb sow, and two pigs, with the .44mag, the rest ran away... one of the pigs was a 60lb small boar... 'tried' cooking it, and the smells were like boiling urine... tasted the meat, since I'd went to the trouble of killing the thing, butchering, and cooking. Meat was tolerable, if you could divorce the smell of the house from the meat itself.

Sows, and shoats (mid size pigs) don't smell... at least the meat doesn't.

One of my uncles traps full time (local strip mining concessions and numerous private ranches). He sells the large hogs to a wild meat processor. Hogs with large tusks bring a premium, for 'hunting' outfitters. Pretty lame....... he sells them the wild hogs... they put them in a pen... wait for 'customers'... put the 'hunters' in a stand... night before they string corn out from the pen, across the area with the hunter... an hour or so after the hunters been in the stand, they open the gate and let a few out... the hogs follow the corn... and you can figure out the rest.

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Domestic and Feral are different in the fact when you turn Domestic Hogs into the Wild they revert back to a Different Animal that is the Smartest Animal in the Woods,Body is set up to Protect all Vital Functions,they work together to protect the whole Group,Breed like Rabbits,excellent Hearing and Smell and can actually see pretty Good.If anything endangers the Group they all move.If a Sow is killed her Babies are taken care of by other Sows.They adapt well and can live in places where no other animal would go much less live.

This is what makes them fun to hunt.

I was talking with one of the State Experts and told him we have Hogs here forever and many will die of Old Age and he agreed.

Here is what is left of a Corn Field after Wild Hogs got into it.



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Yes not only wild but all bore hogs in our opinon are un fit to eat I'v heard they can be castrated and then after a couple months are ok

Thats what I was thinking but not True.Very Good eating.

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I've had boar meat and sow meat. No difference in taste. Main key is to bleed the hog immediately and ice down the meat right away. Also seems what they eat flavors the meat somehow. Sometimes it's downright delicious and other times it's ok but not gamey.

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WOW! You would be a handy hand for that fella looking for help! He needs to find someone trainable, eh! Merry Christmas!

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When I was young I had a Boar that I hadn't got around to cutting.He got up to 200 pounds,knew I had to do something.My Former FIL was at the House,told him I needed to cut this Boar,asked if he would help? He said he would.Me being Young and Strong figured I would hold the Hog down,FIL would cut it.Give him the Knife,I put some Corn down,caught the Hog had him down.FIL looks at me says he couldn't do it So we switch,he held the Hog while I cut it.

Even Tame ones are very Strong.

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Then you really wouldn't like this type of hunting. Hog hunting from a helicopter.


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so i guess you only kill rats in your grain by spot & stalk?

just so you understand you're attitude makes you just about the worst conservationist right behind the don't kill anything ever petaphile.

There's lots of them around here. There are a lot of folks who run after them with dogs and hunt them for sport. Seems like a lot of effort and a carcass full of adrenaline and exhausted, not to mention a carcass miles away from where you started. We trap them so we get a better carcass that is close to home and easy to work on. The smaller ones taste better and what they've been eating does a lot to change the taste. We usually make sausage of the ones we catch during avocado season since they have more fat on them.



They are destructive and invasive but there are also a lot of folks who eat a lot of them which helps on the family food budgets so "management" is the option I prefer to "eradication".

Not here, WIHH. Not anymore, at least.
There has been a growing problem with wild hogs down south for quite some time. Some are relatives of a large, vicious Russian breed. Mary,tx is absolutely right. Our Game & Fish has said, "If you see 'em, kill 'em!"
They are physiologically different than domestic hogs, and their nasty attitudes make them dangerous to people and other animals. They're breeding faster than people can kill them.

Here's the flyer they put out:
http://www.agfc.com/species/Document...hogs_flier.pdf
Note that they want all trapped hogs killed. They are NOT to be given to anyone who may release them.

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