Need coyote help please

There used to be millions of bison,billions of passenger pigeons...

Not that many of the former and none of the latter.

Wolves used to roam this area...

I do believe coyotes migrated to this area,after man changed the environment somewhat.

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As to the OP,I have a 30-30 Marlin,it will do the trick.
Ammo is a little high.

If I could,I would buy a SKS,7.62x39 is a capable enough round and it doesn't look too scary to people like some other rifles.

We hear the coyotes,still need to get a guardian animal of some sort,leaning towards a donkey or llama rather than a dog.

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My favorite "using" rifle that's handy and adequate for about anything is likely to be encounter around the homestead is a Ruger Ranch Rifle in .223, stainless with a composite stock, a good 4 X scope and 20 round magazine.

Yes, man took out all of the other predators and the modern day coyotes took their place. That is the same thing that happens when people get rid of the coyotes they have. Some of the neighbors coyotes move in.

There is a lot of difference in the modern day coyote and those of years ago.

To some extent the elimination of larger predators helped,but then so did man changing the environment.

As to wiping out coyotes, it is possible,it won't happen but man can reduce the population greatly.

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Yes, please. Maybe that is a better way, I just don't want to spend a lot of money paying someone else to do it if I can myself. But it's worth talking to them. Thank you.

the coyote explosion is directly related to the small game explosion that followed the near extermination of raptors from DDT. the coyotes were held in check by the use of bounties & poison baits. once the baits stopped ALL canids experienced tremendous recovery because of overpopulation of small game and rapidly growing ungulate populations. since the end of DDT raptors have recovered to the point of overpopulation.
the single BIGGEST factor in allowing coyotes to explode was the loss of federal funding for the bounty system. people could make a GOOD living taking coyotes for bounties, buying homes, farms and a lot of consumer goods. a lot of very good wolfers lost the incentive to continue. some of them came out of retirement during the 80s fur boom but once the market dropped off they quit again. most of the best are dead now. if they're not they're too frail to get out and do the job. the best wolfers i know take 50 plus a year dogging w/ stags & foxhounds. if they could make a living doing it & didn't have to deal w/ the fuss of contrary bambi worshiping new landowners they could pull 300 easy. there in is the root of why they won't be eradicated like they should in the eastern states. the good wolfers are few & far between, they can't make a living at it, and there is too much opposition to getting it done.

if you have good cover for furbearers, make it a deal that they come every winter to clean house. if no one is working neighboring properties, it'll be productive for the trappers every year. the older smarter ones wil avoid the property but their pups will get caught every year along w/the new crop of other furbearers.

there is some good information but there is also a bit of bambi worshipping BS. i'll hit them one by one
not true. they vary their diet a great deal depending on:
1. personal preference, thats right they have preferences on what they LIKE to eat & will go out of their way to eat that even if their is something easier available
2. prey population densities & the resulting ease of catching
3. seasons and how they affect number 2
not necessarily, you're ASSUMING that by killing them you're killing the whole pack. it is not necessary to kill the whole pack to teach them to avoid your property & stock. further it takes a great deal of concentrated effort using multiple techniques to kill off an entire pack. however even by doing nothing, you DO NOT guarantee your resident pack will remain in control of their territory. a larger stronger pack that has depleted their prey base can & will move in and force them out w/o you killing a single one. in such an instance killing a number of the invaders may allow the original pack to reclaim it's territory.
most definitely they hadn't acquired a taste for goat. again see the above, you're unlikely to kill the entire pack, not harming your resident coyotes still doesn't guarantee they will remain your resident pack, your not shooting them doesn't mean you didn't benefit from a neaighbor pursuing them aggressively AND there is no guarantee an incoming pack will have a taste for goats nor is there any guarantee that you can't dissuade them by shooting one or two of their pack as well.
not unreasonable, and as long as it stays that way i see no reason for you to change

that is just ONE of several social structures coyotes employ. in eastern states, they also employ the large wolf technique of extended packs that are USUALLY but not always entirely extended relations. the value of this style of packing is that they can take MUCH larger prey.
they also use the alternate small/medium wolf technique of allowing pups to remain until their second fall before forcing them to disperse. the value of this technique is that last year's pups help raise this year's pups and the pups are better educated full adults before being on their own.
then the normal coyote/small wolf pack technique of allowing pups to remain until fall or the spring after their birth & then forcing them to disperse. fall dispersals are most common in mild winter environments like southern states, the value of it is that adults only have to support themselves through the winter and it ensures older pups don't kill the next years pups. following spring dispersal is more common in northern environments where the larger packs can cooperatively hunt deer more effectively in the deep long lasting snows.
not true, back when the fed financed bounties, they were heavily trapped, shot & poison baited and their population was wiped out over large areas of the plains states. further i know wolfers that have wiped out coyotes in several square miles. and then they had to wait several years before they could go back & catch more than 1 or 2 per year.
the SNR, technique could ONLY work in a CLOSED environment like Hawaii where the pups from neighboring intact animals couldn't move in to repopulate. additionally the spay neuter & release technique would eliminate the hormones in their urine at territorial markers CAUSING more aggressive intact animals to force the altered coyotes out of their territory & thus making them MORE likely to look to livestock for an easy meal.

Donkeys work for me. They are on guard 24/7. Hate all canines and eat what the rest of the stock eats. I keep a pair and have yet to lose a calf or chicken to a four legged predator. I do however find a stomped to jelly coyote or two every year. I've also had a visit from an angry neighbor about his dogs broken hip. That conversation ended when I told him I didn't recall having to come to his place to get my donkeys back. Yup carrots for the girls that night.

One of the best tools the govt. had when they declared war on the coyote was poison. More coyotes were killed with poison than all other ways added together.
Govt. studies later showed this caused the coyote to change.
Some coyotes are more the scavenger types and some coyotes are more likely to make kills themselves. The use of poison got rid of most of the scavenger type coyotes and left those that killed much of what they ate. These hunting coyotes were the fore fathers of todays coyotes.
Today we see coyotes that were selective bred for a certain trait, killing other animals.

Western coyotes are territorial. Yes if you shoot some another pack will come in but if you continue to harvest coyotes they will stay away. Each pack seems to remember where trouble was found after a few years.
AFA a gun I am another fan of the 223. Cheap ammo is readily available. Get a good scope and test it at twilight. That is when the better scopes allow more light through. A good starter rifle would be a H&R Handi-Rifle [single shot] or a Stevens 200 bolt action. Neither are perfect but both are accurate. Get some 55 gr soft point ammunition and you should be OK.

.223 with night scope and suppressor. That way you can get more than one as they don't know where the shots are coming from. (We sell suppressors locally to lots of varmint hunters.)

Actually I prefer an M16 full auto with a suppressor as you can get the entire pack, even if your vision is sort of limited (like mine is getting with age...) Full auto is great as you're bound to hit something sooner or later!

We hear coyotes occasionally here at night also, but they don't dare come close to our goats or chickens. They're not THAT stupid!

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Need to find some Coyote hunters, and let them run their dogs!!

A Coyote will not fight when there is Two or more dogs on his tale!

You need a good sized posse, five guys with tracking collars, and tracking antennas mounted to vehicles, and those hounds will drive those coyotes out and you can pick them off, wait after Deer hunting season, so the Coyotes are nice and fat. They move slower!

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Wow PP I can't believe all the debate over such a simple question. Just get a .223 rifle of the type you want, learn how to operate and shoot it safely, and protect your place and stock from predators-simple. Other outside hunters/callers would undoubtedly be more skilful but you should learn how to be self reliant with homestead protection. Worrying about more coyotes if you kill one or two or three is bs. I have the coyotes shot down pretty well on my place and haven't lost any of my free range chickens for awhile nor do I hear the yipping groups of coyotes at early dark as I have in the past. I know they are out there and I will have trouble again but I kill any that I can. The worst trouble I have had recently was with an individual female red fox that developed a refined skill and determination at chicken killing. Finally killed it but not before it killed about 8 of my chickens and 10 or so of my neighbors over a 3 month period. And domestic dogs belonging to neighbors will be your biggest challenge and biggest killers because it isn't as straightforward on how to handle them. Be safe and good luck. TTT

This made me laugh, sorry.
Have lots to say about this but wont.

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agree 100%

We are in Western North Carolina just outside Asheville. We have a lot of coyote here and it is scary at times. We lock the cats in the barn at night, have a flood light that shines in the back side of the woods behind barn, we lock the dogs in the barn at night too since we do not want the coyote to kill the dogs.

Good luck finding anyone around this way to come hunt the coyote. I have put posts on hunting sites, called everyone that I was told might hunt them, asked neighbors......I have tried everywhere and no one will come hunt them. There are people who are "wild life damage control officers" and they work for the State but the two I met were no help at all and one asked for VERY HIGH prices to "hunt" but I would not trust him any further than I could spit.

What we do to try and keep them away from the house, barn and animals is that any male on the property is asked to "pee" in any area around the perimeter of the living spaces. We have three boys and they do it as do their friends. Some people say the urine will "mark the territory" and others say it is not. I think it works some since we usually do not find coyote scat near the barns nor the house. We find it almost on the same paths near where the boys "pee" but not in our spaces.

Some neighbors set out poison but I think that is very bad since no one knows whose dog or cats or children might get it.

We also have flood lights that we alternate as needed to flood the wooded areas in the directions where we hear the coyote. We change the lights from time to time.

Good luck -

meanwhile, try this linkhttp://asheville.craigslist.org/grd/2746232970.html

"And domestic dogs belonging to neighbors will be your biggest challenge and biggest killers because it isn't as straightforward on how to handle them. "
As a former Director of Rabies and Animal Control for my Parish I suggest the 3 'S's. Shoot, shovel and Shut up. The Louisiana law allows that anyone can kill any animal, domestic or wild, on public or private property, that harasses livestock.