410 question

http://www.chuckhawks.com/410bore.htm





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.410_bore

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I own a 410 that was my first shotgun. I have hunted quail, dove and duck with it. taken one rabbit. As the link above mentions. I do not recommend it for duck or larger. It is really not fair to rabbits either. But dove and quail it is a fantastic choice. I don't knwo if it is jsut my gun or that all 410's are made that way but it shoots a very tight pattern and has a surprising range. Longer than 12 gauge in my experience. I took a dove at over 100 yards with it. took the shot thinking I would not even reach it, just farting around and trying to do something humorous (had to be there) and the bird dripped like a stone. That experience woke me up to some of the not so obvious advantages of the 410 when it comes to small birds.

I can also get slugs for it that gives it a whole lot more hitting power. Never had to shoot anything but have little question it could take down a deer.

410 or 20 gauge? More shot to the 20 only a touch more recoil. IF all you want is a noise maker though get teh 410 , my wife shoots mine from her hip.

I think the 410 is about the perfect garden gun I've used one for years No kick at all It don't blast as loud as a 12 or 20 I even like to take it hunting now and then I have a pump but would rather have my old H&R single shot back or a nice light double

Remington has some reduced recoil loads for the 12 Gauge. I have a sweet little Mossberg 410 pump. Picked it up at Walmart for $199.

You might be able to score a good deal on a used one from a gun shop.

A box of 410 cost $16 this fall but it doesn't sound like you'll be buying many shells. I agree with the people suggesting that you find some low power 12 ga shells and adding some weight to the gun you already own.

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I say anybody who wants another gun for any perceived reason should buy another gun. I'm certainly glad I don't have to try and find a reason for some of the ones I own.

Amen!

Budget wise I recommend a h&r .410 from Wally World 119$, last I looked. And if you are smaller framed you can git it in the Handi youth persuasion. and 2 1/2" shells are about 6$ a box cheaper and pattern very good..

thanks to all of you for the info. basically I just want something I can shoot comfortably until my shooting side heals up. will be checking on getting some weight added to the old 12 guage as someone suggested, but right now just need something that won't be painful to shoot for the next few months.

A few years ago, I'd recommend the H&R too, but since Remington bought marlin (who owned H&R) the quality is not always what you would hope for.

my lever .410 does not kick much, but the single shot 12g my husband had was one of the hardest kicking guns. He said it was worse than his Mosin with factory ammo. He gave it to the neighbor who was looking for something to scare the owl away with. He planned on shooting a light load as he wanted the noise more than anything.

If it's just to scare off varmints, why not get a 22 and get rat loads for it?
The shells are kind of pricey but you could peel off several rounds real quick if it's a semi-auto and no kick to speak of. If it's just a burn and not a kill I think it would be good for 25 yards or so.

They sell blanks for the 12ga. Sometimes used for training hunting dogs. Lots of noise with no shot (and somewhat less kick).

Probably would scare off varmints

Most shot loads won't cycle the actions on a 22 semi auto BECAUSE there is "no kick to speak of"

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I like my 410 but also have a 16 gauge a 12 gauge and a 20 gauge. All but the 410 are Pump guns.Even when I went duck hunting I only took enough shells to bring my limit. A lot of people take 3 or 4 boxes duck hunting. I wait until I have a good shot to fire others blast away at 1/4 mile. I went hunting with an uncle and he shot 4 boxes of shells and that was when I went hunting he tried to beg some shells from me but I refused. I came home with my limit he had one that he wounded and we chased it down with a boat.

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I was going to buy my girls each a 410 but when I saw the price of shells was three times higher than for a 20 ga. They got 20 gauges and the kick doesn't bother them. They are 13 and 9 years old.

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I just never felt the Need for a .410 shotgun. I got one in trade on a deal once. A JC. Higgins bolt action w/ a tube magazine, IIRC. And I got a good price out of it, later. And I picked one up cheap, with about a 20" barrel, that a guy at work wanted to get out of his house. I've never held onto a .410 very long. Nothing against them, though.

We don't have anything but 12 gauges, in our house. Even DSW's shotguns are 12's.
I had a nice, little 20 ga. Spanish double gun. But my DBrudder just had to have it for dove hunting. He traded me a Colt Combat Commander, in great shape for it. I only had a little over $300 in the 20 ga. double. I ran across a guy at work, looking for a .45 acp.
I got somewhat over $500 cash for that Colt Commander. I really already had all the
1911's I needed. I haven't had anything but a 12 ga. ever since.

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If you just need something until you heal, ask around and see if someone has one they would be willing to loan out for a little while. I have a couple of old beaters I don't mind lending to responsible individuals.

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My two cents. . .

A 410 is an expert's gun. The shot load and pattern are so small you have to be a very good shot to hit something with it.

If you can pick up and aim your current shotgun I'd suggest adding weight and using light loads to reduce recoil rather than buying a different weapon.

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The 20 gauge is an excellent caliber. It is particularly well suited to those of smaller stature and those that dislike the blast and recoil of the 12 gauge. When compared to a 12 gauge, the 20 gauge delivers 75% of the lead with a recoil that is 40-50% less. This is equivalent to the ballistic force of being hit with two .44 Magnum rounds simultaneously. Reduced recoil of the 20 gauge is conducive to accurate, rapid shots.

I am only 5'3" and have bad shoulders, hands and a weak left arm and I really like the 20 guage H&R single shot in the youth size. I bought mine years ago for about $50.00 and it is as good today as the day I got it. Great goose gun and for protection at the house....James

Any shot gun will do the trick as long as you learn to aim before pulling the trigger. I reload shells and use the 410 for everything. I have brought home many ducks,goose,deer, rabbits,dove, quail, and squirrels. The 20 gauge is more forgiving and the shells are reasonable. The 410 is a good gun if you learn to shoot it properly. I only carry enough shells for my limit and rarely miss. I always wait until I have a good shot that way I am not wound any animals.

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