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11/16/11, 06:17 PM
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I work for a firm that does the environmental surveys for pipelines and electrical lines.
Pro:If you negotiate the contract correctly you get paid for the access rights, someone else clears any timber but you can keep the timber (if contract negotiated correctly), you get a clearing in your woodlot - wildlife benefits.
Cons: You will have environmental & cultural resource people crawling over your property before construction, Construction never runs on time - double whatever they tell you, some people believe that the right-or-way for powerlines are public access and you will be fighting trespassing.
If you have any specific questions shoot me an IM. If they want to locate on your property get a lawyer with experience in this type of thing.
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11/17/11, 12:17 AM
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For you it probably will make little difference other than maybe the eyesore of looking at them. To the landowners however it's a whole different story. Most of the cons have been listed: Trespassers, no trees over ten feet, etc.
The keys to the gates get passed out to anybody that they contract with to do tree trimming. I have caught people in marked vehicles cutting firewood under the excuse that they were doing trimming for the utility company. Funny that the utility company requires that everything be chipped or left where it lies and these guys were hauling out only firewood size wood.
Another trouble I have had is that the low security lock that everybody has a key to, keeps showing up on the gate at the beginning of buck season so that their friends, whom they have made key copies for, can go hunting on my land. Luckily I am able to get it traded out each time I see it on there but there is no accountability for where it came from.
Luckily, our utility company will hold the herbicide typically used if requested.
As for the lines electrifying fences. There are fences under them everywhere here and I haven't touched one yet that shocked me.
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11/17/11, 12:46 AM
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But the polar magnetic fields are not as concentrated as your dealing with near power lines, we're exposed to x-ray, gamma ect daily but not as entense as artifical conditions, the body can only absorp so much of a good thing and then there's damage. Eletromagnic devises are used after some surguries and bone fractures, great medical break through, except now there studies of increased cancer issues. And you can walk under main lines and have floresent bulbs light up till you get about 100 ft away from the big tower type units. So is it OK to stick your finger in a light socket when you get home while holding a bulb..
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Originally Posted by Yvonne's hubby
Yeah, those pesky electro magnetic fields... kinda like the ones we all live and work around all day every day and think nothing about. Electric razors, cell phones, fluorescent lighting, tvs, radios, computers.... the list is nearly endless, not counting the earth itself...  As to the cute photos with the flourescent lights glowing.... my daddy made a coil out of an oatmeal box once when I was a kid. He used to plug it in around the corner out of sight, and then pick up a florescent tube.. and it would light up! great parlor trick and impressed quite a few of the neighbors. (scared my granny to death, something about the work of satan) Of course most of the neighbors were just farmers and ranchers, had never heard of Tesla or his work with magnetic fields.
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11/17/11, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToad
"If two cell phones ringing can sizzle four kernels of popcorn between them, that's a problem. After witnessing that, we got rid of the cell phones.
The fluorescent light bulbs in our house now don't light up on their own and I don't hear popcorn sizzling until I put it in a pan and turn on the burner."
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/cell-phone-popcorn.shtml
A ringing cell phone will not introduce any new frequencies of radiowaves that aren't currently surrounding you at all times of day or night already. Besides radiowaves are just a frequency of light.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency#Physics_of_light
Every current carrying conductor, such as power lines will produce a magnetic field. And yes, every power line is essentially a giant capacitor so the ability to light up a florescent light is not surprising. However, I thought magnetic fields where supposed to be good for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_therapy
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Saw the "light" with my very own eyes. Heard the popcorn sizzle with my very own ears. Sorry to blow the hoax theories.
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11/17/11, 04:39 PM
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Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by fantasymaker
But when underground repairs are almost nonexsistant.
Underground is WAY better but more expencive for them.
A plane will never hit a underground wire.
A kid will never climb its poles.
A truck will never hit a sagging wire.
A tractor will never hit a underground tower.
there is less voltage loss underground.
The list goes on forever but a legitimate grip for you at 300 feet away is that it will be less disruptive of the veiw.
MAKE EM PUT IT UNDER GROUND!
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Explain why voltage loss is less in an underground three phase conductor cable, disregarding the the effect of increased capacitance due to the proximity of the conductors as compared to arial conductors? Resistance depends on the temperature of the conductor, the material of the conductor,and the phenomenon of volt amperes reactive in high voltage ac circuits.
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11/17/11, 08:40 PM
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Saw the "light" with my very own eyes. Heard the popcorn sizzle with my very own ears. Sorry to blow the hoax theories.
So if the phones can put out the energy to pop popcorn, what is the means of heat transfer to cause this? Not accounting loss of energy due to distance, the amount of energy to change the state of in internals of a single kernel of popcorn is more than the batteries in the cell phone contain.
Popping popcorn with a cell phone violates every law of physics out there. If a battery did put out that much energy, a phone would literally burn you every time you picked it up, much like putting your hand on the bottom of a skillet when the stove is on.
If your that worried about the small amounts of RF field generated by a cell phone, do you ever wonder how much your computer puts out as that is a much larger electricity load?
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11/18/11, 11:36 AM
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Location: IL, right smack dab in the middle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jross
Explain why voltage loss is less in an underground three phase conductor cable, disregarding the the effect of increased capacitance due to the proximity of the conductors as compared to arial conductors? Resistance depends on the temperature of the conductor, the material of the conductor,and the phenomenon of volt amperes reactive in high voltage ac circuits.
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Im not a expert on this but in a discusstion I listened to between some electrical enginers on a highvoltage line about this very subject they got into an argument about how much power would be saved over a 300 mile run.
It seems that a bit of power is lost at every abrupt corner. Like the ones that ocur at the hang point for the wire on each tower. While it is a Tiny amount one side took the veiw that it was significant over the course of the line.
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11/18/11, 03:00 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Central Indiana, Spencer
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I moved to my current location in 1973. There are cross country power lines going thru our 26 acres. The power company has always been outstanding and extremely helpful. They always keep the field and swamp clean of trees and tall weeds. They always tell us when they will be working on our land and they always clean up after the work. They did some big work last year and needed to get very large equipment down a hill. They built us a nice gravel road and leveled out the hill. They drug up the trees they cut down and my buddy cut it up for fire wood. They also inspect the lines with helicopters which is fun to see. All in all its been pleasant. No Cons at this point.
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11/18/11, 03:59 PM
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Biggest Con to me is that they are just dang UGLY!
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11/19/11, 12:56 PM
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Location: Mountains of Vermont, Zone 3
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It is a waste of 32 acres. We get no value from it. Snowmobilers and ATVers incorrectly believe they can use the power lines - these are not public rights of way. I own the land, the power company is allowed to use it, not the public. Unfortunately the power lines also make that land unsaleable and decrease the value of the surrounding land - nobody wants to look at those huge electric transmission lines.
Lots of cons. No pros.
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11/19/11, 01:12 PM
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Murphy was an optimist ;)
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kentucky
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VaFarmer
So is it OK to stick your finger in a light socket when you get home while holding a bulb..
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Sure... just reach over and flip the switch to the off position first.
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