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Old 11/09/11, 11:33 AM
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No, I'm arguing facts, something that seems to upset you. You say I'm wrong, that all gas cans are designed like the Blitz can, and then go posting pictures showing several various alternatives to the awful Blitz design. Kinda shooting yourself in the foot as it were.

The clumsy, messy, hard to use BLITZ design is their own proprietary design. Popular because it's cheap. That is why you can hardly get away from it. People want cheap, so this is about all they can find, cheap junk Blitz cans.

ALL the EPA mandated was that the can self close, just like Jerry cans of old. That is the *only* requirement. A requirement which the old Jerry can meets. Which is why you can still buy them, if you look and are willing to pay the price, for they aren't cheap.


And you are again factually wrong.
Jerry can is the old rectangular ones commonly strapped onto military jeeps. They didnt self close, the early ones anyway had a metal screw in plug that was attached to the can with a chain so you didnt lose it. There was a rubber gasket on the plug. These were next to useless without a spout or a very large funnel. You could buy a spout that either screwed in or had rubber seal that expanded to clamp in. The spout was not included with the can and is very expensive. There were some with a spring loaded clamp on cap but that didnt hold up well. The old military jerry cans did use standard pipe threads for the plug so like I mentioned earlier I use couple of them for diesel and made a very practical spout out of few pvc fittings. Screws into the opening and works fine, better than the expensive metal flex spout I used to have for them.

If anybody knows of an actual steel can with a metal spout without the self closing mechanism, please post. One that is $50 or under. I mean a currently produced can, not some small lot of old military cans some army surplus place got hold of. I know here locally where I could buy some Chinese knock off military looking jerry cans, but I can guarantee nobody would want one except as a decoration. Dont look like they would close well and very thin metal that I imagine isnt galvanized. Rust out quickly. Also dont have screw in threads, its got a clamp type lid and no spout.

If you notice the first pic I posted was Eagle can with a metal spout for mere $188. If you think this is a practical can and good buy, more power to you. This would get stolen unless you had way chaining it to bed of truck or hired an armed guard.

The second pic was showing that the $50 eagle is NOT all metal. It has a plastic spout design to MEET THE EPA MANDATE. It is not old school design unless you were born this century. Are you an ten year old? I suspect not and you should know that NO CAN is made like the pre-EPA mandate cans were. You claimed these EAGLE cans were and i just showed they are NOT.
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Old 11/09/11, 02:22 PM
 
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Jerry can is the old rectangular ones commonly strapped onto military jeeps. They didnt self close, the early ones anyway...
The jerry can has had the same milspec on it since the 1940's. Try again.

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It has a plastic spout design to MEET THE EPA MANDATE.
There is no EPA mandate on plastic spouts. Try again.

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It is not old school design unless you were born this century.
Funnels are not a new fangled 21st century idea. Try again.

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If anybody knows of an actual steel can with a metal spout without
the self closing mechanism, please post. One that is $50 or under.
Which is what I said from the very begining, they aren't cheap. The junk made by Blitz is. Try again.
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Old 11/09/11, 02:58 PM
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As I've said, I don't see what all the fuss is about. The can I use is similar to this one at TSC for $9.99 by Spectre: http://www.tractorsupply.com/scepter...asedPricingCmd

The fill spout rests on the lip of the fuel tank you are filling. Press down gently (the weight of a full gas can will do this for you) and the flow starts. When the fuel in the tank reaches the spout the air is cut off and the flow stops. When you lift the can the spout automatically closes. This is close to perfect as far as I'm concerned.

Some of you simply don't seem to like plastic. OK, then they also have this one by Eagle for $39.99: http://www.tractorsupply.com/eagle-m...5-gal--3958668

Just be aware that with the eagle can you must hold the spout open while you pour, and you can spill fuel just like with any old gas can. But, if that's what you like, go for it.
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Old 11/09/11, 09:32 PM
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Ken, instead of keeping up with a seperate plug.
Drill a hole in the plastic can and screw in a radiator style drain plug. Open it to let air in while pouring. This is probably a violation of some federal environmental law.
When your done just close till it stops. Don't tighten it closed. This keeps it from coming loose from the plastic.
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