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11/06/11, 07:45 AM
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zone 5 - riverfrontage
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Yes.
All bio-mass burns good.
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11/06/11, 08:00 AM
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In Remembrance
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Movies of the Westward pioneers weren't all that accurate. It showed husband, wife and kids riding in wagons. Not so. Everyone who could walked to reduce the load on the horses, mules or oxen. Women would pick up buffalo chips during the day using their skirt as a basket.
When stopped for a night it was the responsibility of young boys to get the campfire going. Often several wagons shared the same fire. That way usually their only freshly prepared meal for the day. Breakfast was left overs from the previous evenings. Nooners were something like jerky.
They did pick up firewood, but with the number of wagon trains in a single season it was difficult to find. Some wagons had a tarp like deal underneath called a possum in which campfire wood or chips were stored until needed.
In all of the western wagon train movies I've seen I haven't heard anyone yell 'Shoot the horses'. Nor is mention made of collecting any rifles they might of had.
Later trains would normally stop where the previous day's one did. I can't imagine what the campsite would have smelled like after a while. Campsites didn't have outhouses.
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11/06/11, 08:38 AM
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II Corinthians 5:7
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Still, Ken, I would have enjoyed those earlier days.....spoken from the comfort of my home! It sure was hard on the pioneers with the women having as many children as possible so as to help the men do the work!
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11/06/11, 09:06 AM
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Living the dream.
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Probably burns a lot like peat. Lots of youtube videos on peat...
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11/06/11, 10:21 AM
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You could use the plops to run an engine which runs a generator which runs an electric stove and powers a radio.
jim
(i just thought I'd thrown in the radio)
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11/06/11, 10:34 AM
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Guess you could dry them in a dehydrator? I mean the big homebuilt ones with screen.
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11/06/11, 10:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolT
Guess you could dry them in a dehydrator? I mean the big homebuilt ones with screen.
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Or in your oven?
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11/06/11, 02:15 PM
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forfreedom. on the DVD Victorian Farm, they did that.
Dried cow plops dont smell.
They ought to burn well they got alot of passed grass in them, and if there fed on corn thats an oil also if it gets passed them
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11/06/11, 03:27 PM
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My grandpa grew up in Wyoming
I heard him tell stories when I was a kid of being sent out to pick
up DRIED buffalo chips for the stove,key word being DRY.
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11/06/11, 03:38 PM
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In Remembrance
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Your grandpa's memory may be bull chips. Free ranging American Buffalo/Bison were largely extinct in 1900.
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11/06/11, 03:42 PM
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It could have been cow chips,probably was cow pies
instead of buffalo.
It's probably my memory,I was just a kid and grandpa's been dead about
30 years now,he'd be way over 100 if he was still alive.
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11/06/11, 04:23 PM
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May be Ken, bout OM saying her GD picked up buffer chips asa a kid. Yes, the Buff were gone, but the chips would still be out there, sometimes almost petrified in their own fashion.
I get a kick out of the old west movies like Sam Elliots Quick and the dead, where hes wounded and in their wagon and the wife is tending him beside him, like the wagons 6ft wide. #1, it wasnt. #2 they could nEVER show in a movie how miserable it would be lying down no matter how many quilts, tho a full size feather tick folded might make it. How miserable a person would be, rideing in a high wheeled wagon on their back. Also, If one put a wounded person down in a wagon, there would be precious little room for anything else to fit in it.
Ive read that, in the Donner Party, there was a well off man who had one wagon built on top another, and pulled with an extra team. Problem was, the axles failed with regularity, the teams couldnt pull the fully loaded wagon up hills, and he held back the train, makeing them late in the season to get over the mountains.
That pouch under the wagon for collecting branches, chips and twigs was also called a posssum belly.
I would bet that, out way west, that the train got way wide so that there wasnt as much dust, and they could have a wider operateing area to find branches and twigs and buff pies.
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11/06/11, 07:00 PM
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I would cure them for a year to make sure they are nice and dry. Dry poop is very hard. I am not sure if cow poop turns to an almost rock-like quality like dog poop does, but it is worth a shot to try and dry them for a year to see if they burn better and longer.
There was a dirty job episode once where mike went to help out on a dairy farm where the farmer bio digested the cow poop to make electric for his farm, funneled off the liquid for ferilizer, and then pressed the fiber from the dung into peat-like seed starting pots to sell. I think he called them Cow Pots and you can buy them on-line. But anyway, it would be very effective for a farm to follow that dairy farmer's method of making biogas to make electro, saving the liquid to nurish the fields, and instead of making cow pots with the remaining fiber from the poop, make the fiber into blocks of fuel to burn in the wood burner. I think if you pressed that fiber in a mold with a hydrolic press, let it set, then dry the bricks out for a year then they would burn very well in the stove.
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11/06/11, 07:21 PM
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Wow....that was fun!!
Had me laughing histerically!
I checked out the sedorstoves. My house won't have that much heighth, nor will I need that much heat.
I'm also wanting to use newspaper bricks as we have a local newspaper that has LOTS of undelivered/too many papers that just collect dust and mice in their now unused backroom.
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11/06/11, 07:35 PM
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Huh. You learn something new everyday I guess.
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11/06/11, 08:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RonM
I would have to be awfully cold....
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me too and def upwind.....
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11/06/11, 08:29 PM
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Harry, don't think I want those chip cookies in my oven... Besides, would be able to cook whatever you're needing to cook for the same energy without the smell using the electricity to bake food rather than chips LOL
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11/06/11, 08:54 PM
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Still like to know where in Kans u are in. Im assumeing western. I was born raised between Atchison Kans and St Joe Mo.
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