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10/28/11, 05:20 PM
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It was because of the milk train picking up dairy milk. The cows wouldn't milk until dawn, and the train ran on time, no matter what. If the cows weren't milked yet, the milk missed the train.
That was back in the days when the railroads prided themselves on running on schedule.
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10/28/11, 06:58 PM
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"Where's the savings, still gettin the same amount of daylight whether the clocks are set ahead or back. "
Same number of hours - but some "wasted" if the sun is up before people awaken.
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10/28/11, 07:13 PM
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I dont much care as I pretty much just go with whats daylight anyway but it sure would be nice to have the clocks in my vehicles correct more than half the time!
That is one of the bennies of retirement, I dont own a watch or carry a cell phone and am often surprised at how fast the days go because I am not checking the time.
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10/28/11, 07:28 PM
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I don't know who instituted it, or the wisdom behind it, but the older I get the less I like it! Takes me longer every year to get used to the time change.
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10/29/11, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by oregon woodsmok
It was because of the milk train picking up dairy milk. The cows wouldn't milk until dawn, and the train ran on time, no matter what. If the cows weren't milked yet, the milk missed the train.
That was back in the days when the railroads prided themselves on running on schedule.
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Now that is the only answer that actually makes any sense.
Thank you OregonWoosmok
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10/29/11, 07:47 AM
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I be leave that most scholars are saying that in 1912 when it first started was that a year earlier in Germany it was started up to save coal. And during WWI it spread rapidly to other countries as well. And it was mostly to save energy during war time then.
It was proposed back in the late 1800's and even further back then that, when Ben Franklin wrote about it in one of his letters.
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10/29/11, 08:38 AM
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I think we should do away with time zones too... we're bright enough to have it be the same time all over the world. EST is -5 hours. So, school here would be 3am to 10am. business hours would be 4am to noon.
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Obviously we're not bright enough. Doing away with time zones wouldn't be a bad idea. I would also like to see us eliminate the 12 hr. timekeeping method. The 24 hr. clock is the only one that makes sense. For example, why would anyone care if the kids started school at 0300 GMT if that's when the sun comes up in your location? Or the kids could start school at 1900 GMT - makes no difference.
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Where's the savings, still gettin the same amount of daylight whether the clocks are set ahead or back.
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Exactly - daylight savings is just one of the stooooopid things we do.
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Originally Posted by YuccaFlatsRanch
"Where's the savings, still gettin the same amount of daylight whether the clocks are set ahead or back." Same number of hours - but some "wasted" if the sun is up before people awaken.
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Wake up earlier. The sun should be our clock and not that time keeping thing that hangs on the wall.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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10/29/11, 12:35 PM
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I believe in the 70's they tried having DST year round to save energy...basically businesses and government helping people get up earlier. This means more light in the evening when most people are still up so they don't need as many lights on. In some areas it doesn't really matter in the winter since you get up when it is dark and get home from work when it is dark. They stopped having it year round after an increase in accidents involving kids on their way to school in the dark.
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10/29/11, 03:32 PM
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"Wake up earlier. The sun should be our clock and not that time keeping thing that hangs on the wall.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. "
I can stick to that story as well, EXCEPT there are too many things that require an agreed upon clock time. Today for instance, I had a haircut appt at 11 am and a doc appt at 2 pm. Therefore today I am chained to the clock. Tomorrow I give a 1 hour talk at church. The Bishop would be very "inconvenienced" if I showed up at my good time vs his.
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10/30/11, 08:55 AM
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I remember not having it.Went to work just after it got Light and got off just before Dark.
The way it is now in Winter if your wanting to be out at Daylight you have to get up way too early.Starts next weekend have to get up at 3:30 AM
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10/30/11, 11:29 AM
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I thought it was so kids didn't have to walk to/from school in the dark. But what kid walks anymore?
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10/30/11, 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 7thswan
I thought it was so kids didn't have to walk to/from school in the dark. But what kid walks anymore?
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In the country they still stand along side of roads etc. And that was why DST was stopped for being year round.
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10/30/11, 11:47 AM
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they need to change it 1/2 hour and leave me alone .. just saying
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10/30/11, 12:01 PM
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When I moved to Indiana about 15 years ago we didn't change times, and I loved it. Now that we have to I have the hardest time getting adjusted to it in the summer. I wish we could go back to not changing.
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10/30/11, 12:07 PM
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I really LOVE the long days in summer, and I guess that now iIS what its all about.
More time to enjoy things outside etc.
And while living in AZ. you WANTED the sun to go down as quickly as possible, to get the temps started downward.
And that is why AZ. does not change.
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10/30/11, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HOTW
Supposedly to use natural daylight better but now it was chabged because of a bunch of lobbyists for the barbeque industry. An unexpected bonus was they found people turned on thjeir AC's earlier.
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I had no idea that was how the whole idea of daylight savings came to be. The love of money......
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10/30/11, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by oregon woodsmok
It was because of the milk train picking up dairy milk. The cows wouldn't milk until dawn, and the train ran on time, no matter what. If the cows weren't milked yet, the milk missed the train.
That was back in the days when the railroads prided themselves on running on schedule.
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Cute idea, but not how dairies (or cows) worked.
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"Don't bother me Martha. I've got fly problems and this farmer has cold hands and is about to get a swift kick."
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10/30/11, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by YuccaFlatsRanch
I can stick to that story as well, EXCEPT there are too many things that require an agreed upon clock time. Today for instance, I had a haircut appt at 11 am and a doc appt at 2 pm. Therefore today I am chained to the clock. Tomorrow I give a 1 hour talk at church. The Bishop would be very "inconvenienced" if I showed up at my good time vs his.
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Oh sure. I agree. It's just that your haircut appointment may be at 0300 and the doctor's appointment at 0600. It could possibly be the same as 11 AM and 2 pm. These are just words (or numbers, really) to describe where the sun is. If the entire world was on this time and we learned it from grade school on up through adulthood nobody would know the difference.
No matter what we call it, daylight savings or anything else, the sun is still going to shine a certain number of hours each day depending on the time of year - no matter what we call it.
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10/31/11, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pink_Carnation
I believe in the 70's they tried having DST year round to save energy...basically businesses and government helping people get up earlier. This means more light in the evening when most people are still up so they don't need as many lights on. In some areas it doesn't really matter in the winter since you get up when it is dark and get home from work when it is dark. They stopped having it year round after an increase in accidents involving kids on their way to school in the dark.
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Yep...it was in the 70's. I remember going to the bus stop when it was pitch dark...HATED it!
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10/31/11, 06:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oregon woodsmok
It was because of the milk train picking up dairy milk. The cows wouldn't milk until dawn, and the train ran on time, no matter what. If the cows weren't milked yet, the milk missed the train.
That was back in the days when the railroads prided themselves on running on schedule.
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Is there a train stop at every farm? LOL, here in the dairy state, milk is hauled by truck to local cheese factories. The milk is picked up every day (or even every other day for smaller dairies ) and its picked up in the afternoon, several hours after the cows are milked. I doubt that DST made any differenceto either the farmer or the hauler.
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