PETA lawsuit seeks to expand animal rights

Yikes are you comparing granting rights to illegal immigrants to granting rights to orcas? I follow your reasoning that orcas should be protected but granting human rights to animals is not the same or even in the same ballpark as granting rights to actual humans ie illegals.

I can't believe you would insult a wolf like that!

As far as I am concerned , any supporter of P.E.T.A. is ALSO a Supporter of the Animal Liberation Front , and the Earth Liberation Front , both classified as Domestic Terrorist Group's by the FBI , that P.E.T.A. has Openly supported in the past with financial and service donations .
http://activistcash.com/organization...ent-of-animals
There are a lot more web sites quoting Ingrid Newkirk
Newkirk wrote a book called Free the Animals! The Untold Story of the U.S. Animal Liberation Front and Its Founder, ‘Valerie.’ In it she writes: “The ALF has, over the years, trusted People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) to receive copies of the evidence of wrongdoing … I have also become somewhat used to jumping on a plane with copies of freshly purloined documents and hurriedly calling news conferences to discuss the ALF’s findings.” Indeed, PETA has held such press conferences just hours after ALF arsons and other break-ins.

I am starting to doubt that any would come forward considering the way that those with alternative views are treated on this site. It's too bad that so many have to stay in the closet because of a bunch of bullies.

This is pure poppycock. Most people here are about freedom.

The problem arises when someone shows up and tells everyone else what they should or should not eat. Eat organic tree bark, eat whalemeat sandwiches with condor eggs, I don't care, just don't tell everyone else what to eat.

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sorry I don't get the "bully" thing. most here are for raising your own food humanly . some are vegetarians and some are not.
I do think that all are for the animal human bond. which PeTA and ARAs are trying to take way. they want total animal liberation as in no pets no feeding the wild birds and no interfering with them but just letting them go extent (big cats, pet cats .... ).
I have yet to find anyone here that is not for animal welfare. but it is a big difference between animal welfare and animal rights.

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I think you are insulting the wolf.

OMG I can't beleev u wud eat animals like that dont u have respect man?

Oh...Yes, I'd love to come over for dinner. I work for PETA and have an insatiable meat craving.

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I am starting to doubt that any would come forward considering the way that those with alternative views are treated on this site. It's too bad that so many have to stay in the closet because of a bunch of bullies.




Seems like we've had folks here talk about being a vegetarian...fine...trying to get everyone to be one...not fine. Who's the 'bully'?

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Not sure who is holding you down and forcing you to eat only veggies. Sounds like more mass hysteria coming from the majority. My wild guess is that the majority has only obtained it's knowledge of American History & Current Events solely from Fox News.

I'm always amazed by the people that go to a forum, express views counter to that forum, and then complain when most of the responses they receive are against them, and then complain that they are being bullied. Its similar to going to a survivalist forum, try to get people to support gun control, and then wonder why they get a bad response.

Why would anyone on this forum be afraid to reveal that they are vegetarian? I haven't seen it, but then again I don't have a chip on my shoulder expecting to be put down, and therefore misreading what people have posted. At worst I'd guess that most people on this forum rub their tongue over their canine/meat eating teeth, shrug, and think its a silly idea.

I'll add my voice to the crowd that says PETA doesn't care about animals.
Any group that thinks better dead than a cherished pet isn't working for the betterment of the animals.

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Really? Doing what we humans have been doing for the last 10,000 years is mass hysteria? Wow. Next thing you know, we'll learn that forcefully bonding hydrogen to oxygen is actually molecular molesting.

"PETA is going to take my cat away!"

Well, you won't have to worry about my kind eating it.

PeTA is trying.
total animal liberation is their goal and they don't try and hide it so it isn't something made up. that means all animals freed. no farm animals. they want everyone to be vegan (as in NO animal products, even honey, wool milk or eggs) and no hunting soooo that leaves veggies.

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Actually, if PETA had their way, we WOULD all be forced to be vegans, not just vegetarians.

Next step: PETA will also outlaw the use of werewolf and all animal Halloween costumes.

They all ready want us to stop calling people animals like "you pig!" " don't be such an a*ss" so I wouldn't put it pass them.

Do you like penn and teller?

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How sweet you are.

This about says it all.

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Everyone has their own beliefs and outlooks in life. The world would be a boring place if it didn't. A back and forth thread with the difference of opinions make for an interesting read. What isn't enjoyable and interesting is snarky remarks made to both sides of this topic.

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I'm a meat eater. I am not a PETA supporter. I do support animal rights, not just animal wellfare, as has been suggested here. I understand where Raven12 is coming from. As I said earlier, I've been astounded by the negativity displayed in this thread as well as the mocking that seems to be aimed at vegans and vegetarians. Why would I think that someone saying they are vegetarian is a silly idea? Just because I'm not a vegetarian makes the choice to be so less valid or more silly than my choices. Being told that revealing you are a vegetarian would cause someone to think its a silly idea does not seem like having a chip on ones's shoulder.

I've come to realize that I'm probably going to have to stick to the more specific forums on HT. I'm hoping that by avoiding the more general forums and the more political or controversial topics I can avoid this negativity. There is so much useful information here that I do not want to miss out on it just because of some members attitudes towards the choices that others make (including the choice to support PETA). I only hope that other are not put off by the negativity to the point that they leave HT or never even register. I'm sure those people could get useful information here and likely could share information that would help the rest of us. Lets hope they don't get scared off.

If you are animal rights and yet eat animals do you consider yourself a murder and cannibal?

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