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[[[[.....at least PETA is doing something about it.....]]]]]
What PETA is doing is working very hard to end all interaction between humans and animals. About animals they clearly state that they think the animals are better off dead.
If what you want is an organization that promotes animal welfare and good decent care, there are plenty of organizations that do that, but PETA is not one of them.
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10/27/11, 05:28 PM
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Actually, the constitution was written to protect property holding white males.
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It was amended.
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10/27/11, 05:35 PM
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FYI - Playing with the prey is not limited to Orcas. The practice builds bonds, creates order of leadership, hone's hunting skills, and teaches the young how to hunt.
The psychology of group dynamics also pertains to humans. An good example would be the gang mentality on HT.
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Golly gee, I didn't know that the idea that when many people disagree with a person they're displaying gang mentality.
Common sense says that if animals have rights then the same rules that apply to us apply to them. People and animals are not equal. Should we treat animals humanely? Yes. Do I have the same responsibilities towards animals as I do for my children or mankind in general? No. It is moral to own an animal but it's not moral to own another human being. PETA disagrees.
If my beloved pets develop cancer I would have to put them down rather than treat them. Would I be sad, yes. Would I feel bad or even guilty? Yes. Feeding my family and keeping a roof over our heads is more important than them.
We are not equal.
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10/27/11, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by oregon woodsmok
[[[[.....at least PETA is doing something about it.....]]]]]
What PETA is doing is working very hard to end all interaction between humans and animals. About animals they clearly state that they think the animals are better off dead.
If what you want is an organization that promotes animal welfare and good decent care, there are plenty of organizations that do that, but PETA is not one of them.
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Maybe some know the story-well it was found in some PETA files, so I'm assuming it was true-about the PETA activists who 'rescued' some cats from a veternarian.
Of course, it was a horrible scene-the vet had them in temporary cages, after some medical treatments, and they were being held until adoptive owners could be located.
This is so unacceptable to PETA that they took the animals, went out to the parking lot, and euthanized them. Yup.
I can not tell the story, makes me cry, & its hard to type it w/o tears.
I want to confess, I actually GAVE $$ to PETA when I got some prpaganda from them about 15 yrs ago. 1st I'd heard from them & I truly thought they were helping. I didn't know they were scum.
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10/27/11, 06:16 PM
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The rest of it just seems like your own personal marketing tool.
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Only if linking to other's business and showing you reality is "my own personal marketing tool."
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10/27/11, 06:25 PM
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I had a moonbat friend who had her Peta brochures stuck on her refrigerator................ which was full of meat!
Some people just do not get it.
Believe me, if I could choose to only save either Ingrid Newkirk (or any other peta member) or any random whale, I would save the whale any time.
It just absolutely astounds me that any sane person can in this day and age be suckered in by peta. To me it colors them as totally unreliable in any other capacity.
In most respects I do not feel superior to any other person, but I regard all peta members or supporters as absolute filth.
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10/27/11, 06:27 PM
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Crapola, I was just getting used to the notion that if I hired a 'goat herder' then I'd have to provide him/her with sleeping quarters and a cell phone!
So now my goats themselves are possibly going to be given rights?! I can just see them now, on their little cell phones calling 911 when I'm late feeding in the morning!
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10/27/11, 06:41 PM
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Crapola, I was just getting used to the notion that if I hired a 'goat herder' then I'd have to provide him/her with sleeping quarters and a cell phone!
So now my goats themselves are possibly going to be given rights?! I can just see them now, on their little cell phones calling 911 when I'm late feeding in the morning! 
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Don't worry! PETA will provide their cell phones. And you will be fined for failing to take care of your animals in a prompt and expensive manner.
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10/27/11, 06:55 PM
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Don't worry! PETA will provide their cell phones. And you will be fined for failing to take care of your animals in a prompt and expensive manner.
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Sorry Charlie, I'll shoot them between the eyes and eat them first!
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The problem I have with peta is that it tries to represent itself as a kind,caring organization. However it operates as a militant organization if its goals aren't immediately embraced. All of the supporters I have run across act pretty much the same.
Peta does many things simply for shock value, like this. Trying to give constitutional rights to animals. I realize they are trying to raise awareness, and thats okay, but to go about it like this, does more damage than good.
Also if you look into some of the things they have done, they are the epitamy of the people and actions they claim they are trying to stop and prevent.
That makes it impossible for me to take them,and the supporter's that act like them, seriously.
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10/27/11, 08:14 PM
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I was raised Lacto-ovo-vegetarian. when I gave birth to my first son I was so anemic that I had to have a blood transfusion. I could easily go back and live on soy taste wise, but as for health I am very distrustful of GMOs that they use now days.
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A "What Are You" thread seems like it would be a pretty interesting topic. I bet there are more of us out there than we suspect.
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10/27/11, 08:31 PM
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I see no way that will ever pass. The constitution applies to citizens.....humans....not animals. PETA can ASK all they want....that does not mean it will happen.
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I'd not bet the farm on it.
Read years ago where the Supremes almost did grant those 'rights' to trees... a case came before the Supremes, and the Chief Supreme said in his memoirs that if the case had been worded right, his vote would have swung the decision.
Current court... doubtful.
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10/27/11, 09:04 PM
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My take is - at least PETA is doing something about it. There are tons of special interest groups that decide the course of our lives every day on the federal, state, and local level and yet, people get upset about PETA trying to save some animals. The hate comes off as blind brainwashed fear.
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"save some animals"........was that a joke? They kill 90% of their "rescues" in their "shelters".
They blatantly support terrorists and want "total animal liberation", they could care less that my cows and goats are well cared for, they want them to have "liberation" from the cruel humans who steal their milk. They aren't looking out for animal welfare, you have been misinformed.
Oggie is right, they have already gotten everything they wanted, 4 pages on this forum alone talking about their latest stunt.
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10/27/11, 09:17 PM
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Sorry Charlie, I'll shoot them between the eyes and eat them first! 
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10/27/11, 09:17 PM
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Oggie is right, they have already gotten everything they wanted, 4 pages on this forum alone talking about their latest stunt.
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What are we supposed to do, just shut up and let the monster walk free?
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10/27/11, 09:31 PM
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A "What Are You" thread seems like it would be a pretty interesting topic. I bet there are more of us out there than we suspect.
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For some reason I hear X-files music in my head lol
oh I am no long a vegetarian but I do limit my meat to mainy what I raise.
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10/27/11, 09:44 PM
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Murderer!

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Yep, I've been known to murder my chickens too!
But then I'm a WELL FED murderer!
Wanna come over for dinner? 
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10/27/11, 10:05 PM
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What are we supposed to do, just shut up and let the monster walk free?
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No, I just mean that it really wasn't the legislation they were after but the shock of the stunt.
I think we should expose PETA for what they really are, they pray on ignorance, they are the epitome of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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10/27/11, 10:09 PM
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No, I just mean that it really wasn't the legislation they were after but the shock of the stunt.
I think we should expose PETA for what they really are, they pray on ignorance, they are the epitome of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Great post.
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