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Old 10/01/11, 08:18 PM
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Umm I dont see a phone number?
The end of the first paragraph says gilberte can message me if he'd like DH's number.
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Old 10/01/11, 11:46 PM
 
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Are you talking 'clear cut' or 'selective cut'? If it is selective cut, you need to be there for the entire process, otherwise you will be left with a forest full of inferior trees.

By the mere fact that you are asking the question here, I would strongly suggest getting a reputable, professional forester to evaluate the trees before you make any commitment.

A bad haircut will grow back in a week or two...a bad forestry job takes substantially longer.
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Old 10/02/11, 06:35 AM
 
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Thank you all for your input, it has been most valuable to us. We will be talking to a local forester next week.
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Old 10/02/11, 05:13 PM
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You can get a copy of the slip from the scale house showing what was purchased. Mills here keep a paper trail back to the woodlot.


Tops and other undesirable parts are chipped on site as hog fuel.


That isn't my personal experience on my land or on any of the land around us. I'm surrounded by thousands of acres of harvested land. As I said above, tops are chipped. Not using them is lost income. It gets in the way of natural regeneration. They aren't left strewn on the ground. If for some reason they aren't chipped, weather for example, they're left in a pile in the wood yard. A wood yard is an area at the side of the road where logs are brought to be delimbed, stacked, loaded and/or chipped. Replanting is uncommon here. Instead, mature, healthy trees called seed trees are left standing to replant naturally. Natural regeneration is only a year or two slower in Maine and much less expensive.
I wonder what percent of landowners even know where there logs are going? And going to get slips from the mill? Obviously there must be some trust issues. Around here, we have a handful of mills. Let's say they're hauling pulpwood loads... they can go to three different mills. If they take a load of hardwood sawlogs, they can go anywhere, even a couple hundred miles up to Arkansas. So, yes, you 'can' check with the mill for load tickets... IF your logger has access to only 1 mill.

Not much chipping hereabouts... for hog fuel (is that the boiler at mill?) Chipping logs are carried to the mill, and they do the chipping.

They blade stumps out of the path of the giant 'plow' that pulls like a 5 foot wide slice of ground into a mound, with a deep middlebuster blade. They leave the waste on the ground, then burn it all to little chunks. Wasteful? Yes, but thats the way it's done, on large commercial tracks. Non commercial? Wise landowners leave some seed trees and hope the new pines can survive the growth of underbrush that's going to race up next year.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I've not been personally burned... because I've seen others burned. I don't trust any of them... Mutual Assured Destruction worked great for the US and the USSR... kept both sides honest.
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For what it's worth, the man that purchased the property next to mine had a "business" of splitting firewood into uniform pieces to be sold to restaurants. I was quite surprised to see him take delivery of his raw material. A loaded piggy-back logging truck pulled down our little private lane to make his delivery - at 5:00 am on a Sunday morning! Wonder if the timber owner had any idea...
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Old 10/06/11, 07:55 PM
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The end of the first paragraph says gilberte can message me if he'd like DH's number.
The idea here is its a public forum.

Sorta like when you brought one candy bar to the party and your mom asked you if you had enough for everybody.
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Old 10/06/11, 10:12 PM
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The end of the first paragraph says gilberte can message me if he'd like DH's number.
MFM prefers not to post her DH's number publically. I think it was very kind of her to offer to provide it by PM.
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Old 10/07/11, 07:39 AM
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The idea here is its a public forum.
Great! You understand! It IS a public forum.

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Sorta like when you brought one candy bar to the party and your mom asked you if you had enough for everybody.
Sorry you're feeling left out. Maybe someone in your state has a forestry candy bar for you.
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MFM prefers not to post her DH's number publically. I think it was very kind of her to offer to provide it by PM.
Thanks!
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Old 10/14/11, 10:41 AM
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So what happens to the "public" if all answers to questions become a PM?
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It wasn't offered to the "public". It was offered as a "PM".
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Old 10/14/11, 03:01 PM
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Timber value varies. Level ground allows rapid transport over hilly. Quality of each log, I've seen pine that had lots of branches and wouldn't make good lumber, yet others that are 30 inches across for 30 feet without a branch.

A sawmill near me sells pine lumber for $1.00 a board foot. Another mill, 20 miles south sells pine lumber for 36 cents a board foot. I'd guess what those mills pay for logs would be different, too.
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Old 10/15/11, 04:57 PM
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So what happens to the "public" if all answers to questions become a PM?
The sky falls and we all have to admit that Chicken Little was right.
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As stated before in the above posts...Consult the Maine Forest Service and speak with a State Forester for advice. They are FREE and UNBIASED. Make sure you get a reputable woodcutter, with references, and CERTAINLY A CONTRACT !!! They can guide you through the process. It is usually a red flag when someone knocks on your door or calls to ask if they can harvest your wood. And dont fall for the "your trees are dying and need to be cut" approach by some loggers. Do your research and homework. Where in Maine are you?
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The logger does all the work, and risks death or serious injury. I would expect him to make some money in the deal. Why should his kids go barefoot? Profit is not a bad thing, people.

I had a neighbor with horses cut a bit of our woods, and paid him by the board foot. My other neighbor did some logging at the same time. We had 5 companies give us bids, and went with the highest.
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Old 10/16/11, 06:48 PM
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Profit is a great thing. So are open bids and ensuring that the winning bidder actually sticks to his part of the deal- that way everyone profits. You don't know a good logger from a bad one until it's all over, so you've got to be on it.
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