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Old 09/28/11, 04:05 PM
 
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I'd love one as a project/weekend rig. No way as a daily driver though. Horrible gas mileage for it's size and there is absolutely nothing practical about it unless the road ends a few miles from your porch.

I really really really tried to justify one when my wife's car gave up the ghost but the negatives far outweighed the positives in our situation.


I remember one jeep fanatic tellng me, "round eyes good, square eyes bad".
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Old 09/28/11, 04:11 PM
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Seems like Daimler doesn't realize: It's a Jeep thing, and they don't understand.
Daimler long ago cut loses and sold Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep to group private investors at big loss. They fell flat on their face during bank crash just like Government Motors did. Fiat agreed to pony up some serious money and take over during bankruptcy and has. Your new Jeep is a Fiat. Fix It Again Tony!
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Old 09/28/11, 04:23 PM
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(the new car market wants the Hummer clones)
Is it that only rich folk are buying new cars? Is that why all the luxo-barge carp on the used market? Makes finding a "newer" used car impossible, at least one like I would want. Its all power everything and automatic everything and electronic doodads up the wazoo. Pickups especially have just gotten bigger and heavier when there is no logical reason for them to be bigger and heavier with gas prices where they are.
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Old 09/28/11, 09:40 PM
 
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I'd love one as a project/weekend rig. No way as a daily driver though. Horrible gas mileage for its size and there is absolutely nothing practical about it unless the road ends a few miles from your porch.

I really really really tried to justify one when my wife's car gave up the ghost but the negatives far outweighed the positives in our situation.


I remember one jeep fanatic tellng me, "round eyes good, square eyes bad".
Oh, well, the YJs aren't all that bad... Except for the vacuum system, which really stinks.

Round eyes are good on CJs. I guess that the early TJs are alright...
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Fiat agreed to pony up some serious money and take over during bankruptcy and has. Your new Jeep is a Fiat. Fix It Again Tony!
ROTFL! We were reading an article about the new Fiat the other day, and recalled the old "Fix It Again, Tony" joke.

Well, then, we'd best hang on to the old CJs and get them fixed up. We'd been putting off the projects, but they're just lying there in the pasture getting sadder and sadder looking.

The plan is to drop a diesel from a 1980 Scout into the Scrambler. The CJ7 has the Scrambler's old engine, but I want to hang on to my T176. Man, that tranny is the bomb!
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Thanks for all the input, it gives me some things to look for during my search.
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Old 09/29/11, 02:24 PM
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Thanks for all the input, it gives me some things to look for during my search.
Please at least test drive the Liberty. We love ours, and the gas mileage is better.
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Old 09/29/11, 02:46 PM
 
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Don't know if this helps you or not. But the SEAL Teams drive Jeeps by preference. My son who lives in Chesapeake, VA gave me his older Jeep Grand Cherokee(drove it out to OR from Virginia and delivered it to me) and then bought new Wranglers for him and his wife.

My kid is on the road a lot driving back and forth from Norfolk to DC plus quite a lot of of other places where the driving is sometimes rough. While the Jeep is NOT a car and does not perform like one, it suits his purposes well and for his wife and little boy also as the wife uses her Jeep for back and forth to work, and transporting the lil boy here and there with all of his "stuff". All of our Jeeps have some kind of factory installed undercarriage sealants(?) and also skid plates...whatever that is! LOL

He told me to have the undercarriage washed often through the winter and that most people ignore this to their dismay later on. So do keep the underside of your vehicle clean, no matter what kind it is. Its the smart thing to do during the winter or rough driving.

I was visiting back in Virginia from Oregon a few years ago during a Nor' Easter and my kid took me "touring" to the docks there in Norfolk where the Amphibious Ships are. I remember it raining like a son of a gun and that whole area is as flat as a pancake so water was 4" deep on the streets with deeper places. He was driving that Wrangler just like it wasn't even wet!

Water splashing up right over the hood and onto the roof and didn't bother the Jeep he was driving or him at all! Sheesh!

I have no complaints about my Jeep as it has plenty of room for my 3 cattle dogs, groceries and 2 bags of dog food plus maybe some potting soil, when I go to town. I remember when I was back in VA later the next year noticing that the Wranglers had room for baby stuff like strollers etc plus the baby, three adults and groceries too.

They really like them for family autos and I love mine for my dogs.

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