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Old 09/21/11, 12:10 AM
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Hubby told me to try to take it back anyways (even though sign was posted that they would not accept returns on cut wire). I did and the guy that helped me last night came up when the returns gal called to ask policy. He remembered me and asked if I was going to buy the full length if I returned it. I said yes. He said it was against policy, but he would do it this time for me. So got 5 extra feet and have it run. Now just waiting on a freind to cme hook it to the new fuse and put the fuse in box. I need to have one of the smaller fuses moved to fit the double in. That's more than I am willing to do myself
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Well done Ma'am!
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Old 09/22/11, 12:06 AM
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Thank you Got a new (to me) stove today and by tonight I was baking corn bread!
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Old 09/22/11, 12:44 AM
 
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Say willow, I am a little curious; why did you decide to replace the gas stove with electric?
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Old 09/22/11, 02:28 AM
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Have not been able to afford propane for over 3 yrs now- tried to work put a plan with the propane company to pay off what we owed from when DH lost his job several years ago, but they refused to let us do a payment plan for a partial fill after we had the cash to pay off the $900 bill. So we have been heating with kerosene and a borrowed pellet stove and electric heaters and just using the stove for cooking...but ran out of propane about 8 months ago. We were going to go all wood, but with the amount of time I have available, I could not see me having time to get a wood cook stove going each time I wanted to cook (I cook at least a couple times a day). So, even though I hate electric cooktops, I decided it was better than what we have been doing (electric skillet, microwave, crock pot and rotisserie and charcol grill when we had time) as I really miss being able to bake and do my canning...so we went with an electric range and we are installing a wood stove for heat (should be finished next week).
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Old 09/22/11, 09:37 AM
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Sorry you've had such a hard time Willow. Nice job on arranging your cooking/heating better than you had it. (Also, glad you were able to return the short length for a longer one. I suspect they will find a way to make money off that short length as someone will probably need it one day.)
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Old 09/22/11, 08:18 PM
 
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Those are good pennies, Bentley. I can tell you didn't put 'em in the fuse box.
Thanks Harry. Generally speaking, I'm one of those guys that usually knows just enough to get in trouble on most things. Electrical and handling high pressure natural gas being the only noteworthy exceptions.

I've spent the last two years studying the Elect building code, then wired my own home during construction.

Spent the last 35 years working with high pressure (500-1000 psig) natural gas in big inch pipes. >16"
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Old 09/22/11, 10:15 PM
 
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WOW! Huge flow there. I wouldn't even DARE go into working something like that. Does that stuff "sing" (have sonic effects in the pipes)?
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Old 09/23/11, 12:46 AM
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motdaugrnds, thanks...but I am not sorry. Many people have had it even worse during these hard times than we have- many have lost thier homes, have had to resort to food banks and other forms of help and have even suffered the break up of thier family because of the economy being so horrible. I am happy and feel blessed...we have managed to hold on to our house, have always had what we needed without outside assistance and have learned to work together and gotten even more resourceful at making things go further and pinching pennies till they scream. I am glad to have the wood stove going in- that will save us lots this winter. My son has moved back in and he is so helpful and mechanically inclined and is quite handy. My mother will be moving in by Nov (she cannot afford to live on her own any longer) and we have to get the bathroom remodeled before that can happen (tub leaks and the claw foot I planned on putting in 5 years ago is too large for the bathroom)....already things are falling into place to make that happen and I already had stockpiled most of the supplies needed to do the remodel that I got free or cheap as I knew this was coming sooner or later after my father passed away with no life insurance (pedestal sink, tub, tile, moldings).
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Old 09/23/11, 05:58 PM
 
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WOW! Huge flow there. I wouldn't even DARE go into working something like that. Does that stuff "sing" (have sonic effects in the pipes)?
Actually Harry, there is not always a correlation between pressure and flow. A pipeline might have zero flow, and still have high pressure. Obviously, in an open pipe scenario, the higher pressure will provide for higher flow.

What I think you meant was a referral to a big inch pipe having a high capacity for flow.

I spent a great deal of time managing projects (tie-ins, hot-taps, and pipe replacements) on 30" and 36" pipelines. Many folks would be surprised to find out that we actually replaced (welded in) short sections of 36" pipe with gas still in the pipe. (although at zero flow). We did this hundreds of times over the years. Interesting yes?

It's all about the process, and understanding certain things really well.

These same pipes move (on average) anywhere from 1.5 to 3 billion cu feet of natural gas daily. At 1000 psig, a few miles of these pipes could power a large city for a very long time.

To answer your question, normally it does not "sing" while moving through the pipeline. In some situations, it will make noise when going through a flow control device such as an orifice plate, or even a pinched valve. When going From a 36", through an 8" to atmosphere,........I cannot begin to describe how loud it is. But I would use foam ear plugs along with ear muffs, and the noise from that blowdown would vibrate your teeth. You actually had to hold your mouth open to prevent pain in your ears. I will never forget my first time. When it got loud, I was looking around to see if any of the "old" guys were hauling helnee. A few short years later, "I" was the old guy, and I took great pleasure (when the newbies would look at me)......I would just yawn.....lol

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