Benefits of Raw Milk

Macybaby · #41 09/29/11, 09:56 AM

Harbinger, you bring up a lot of fascinating topics, worth their own thread for discussion. Though most of the time people get emotional about such discussions and the threads go south fast.

But this all goes way back, read about the start of industrialization and the role sugar played in making it possible.

FarmerRob · #42 09/29/11, 10:07 AM

[QUOTE=texican;5416009Anyone have any idea what the shelf life of raw milk is? About three days here, kept cold, and it starts getting into 'alternative lifestyles'... sorry, I'm genetically and culturally disposed to not drinking soured milk. Seriously, does anyone not milking daily, have problems with the stuff going bad before you can use it up?[/QUOTE]

I get two gallons at a time (cows milk that is milked that morning,) and it takes about ten days to use it. No problems with going bad. I do keep the fridge cold.

texican · #43 09/29/11, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Maura

Raw milk doesn't go sour. It separates and turns to cheese. We were getting two gallons of raw milk a week and not drinking enough of it. We'd sometimes open the second gallon when it was over a week old. Still edible, not sour. Made cheese 'cause we had another two gallons of fresh. Now we get one gallon per week.

I guess we got the wrong kind of milk... no matter how clean, how immediately chilled, or how stored in the fridge, three or four days, and it's going off... and not into 'cheese', but more into some swilly keefir madness.

We're 'not in milk' right now (just one tiny nigerian, first freshen), but when we are, 'going bad' isn't a problem, as there's a new couple of gallons every day, so 'fresh' isn't a problem.

Those with a gallon stuck in the back of the fridge for a month? Question? If your milking every day, why/how does a gallon get stuck? Now if your buying your milk from someone else, I can see that... but, if your buying from someone else, how can you be sure it's raw, or without all the other "bad stuff" in it? We're only doing goat milk. When I do get raw cow milk, after two days, it separates into cream on top, and 'milk' below.

Some of my betters here can maybe educate me... are any of your cattle breeds giving milk that does not separate, if not shaken every day, when sitting in the fridge? In my experience, only homogenized cow milk doesn't separate............ which leads me to believe that some of the 'raw milk' that ya'll have been buying, ain't really really raw.

Eternal disclaimer... we only drink our goat milk raw... the thought of having to boil a gallon a day, chill it, and fridge it, just scares me something awful.

ErinP · #44 09/29/11, 04:33 PM

Most people I know who "share" their raw milk do so after they've separated it...

mnn2501 · #45 09/29/11, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by VERN in IL

When you think about it mammals (like humans) only produce milk when they have a newborn so it's unnatural to produce milk all the time. .

Females will continue producing milk as long as they are feeding their young whether thats a year or 2 or 18 years. My wife used to work for a women that breastfeed her kids until they started school.

BTW both my cats and dog will drink milk whenever they can get it, you really need to loose your prejudices against good food - have a big steak and a cold glass of milk. Humans are omnivores, not herbivores.

ErinP · #46 09/29/11, 06:50 PM

Oh, I missed that part...

Speaking from personal experience, I lactated for six years straight.

And no, I do not have six children. lol

Bat Farm · #47 09/29/11, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by texican

Those with a gallon stuck in the back of the fridge for a month? Question? If your milking every day, why/how does a gallon get stuck? Now if your buying your milk from someone else, I can see that... but, if your buying from someone else, how can you be sure it's raw, or without all the other "bad stuff" in it? We're only doing goat milk. When I do get raw cow milk, after two days, it separates into cream on top, and 'milk' below.

Some of my betters here can maybe educate me... are any of your cattle breeds giving milk that does not separate, if not shaken every day, when sitting in the fridge? In my experience, only homogenized cow milk doesn't separate............ which leads me to believe that some of the 'raw milk' that ya'll have been buying, ain't really really raw.

I'm most certainly not your 'better' since the reason I know is sometimes I get busy and we don't go through as much milk as when I have time to make other things with it (i.e. cheese, butter, etc.) so sometimes it sits in the fridge for a while. I drink the oldest first so when I do have older milk, I drink it. It is still good. Of course it separates all you have to do is shake it back together. It doesn't have to be shaken every day, we just shake before using it. *Note* we have frozen our milk when really behind and shaking doesn't do any good then. I can still make cheese with it though as most of my recipes call for some heating and that helps the cream mix back in. I don't know if I said before but this milk is from 100% pastured jerseys.

billooo2 · #48 09/29/11, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by haypoint

You are right, raw milk tastes good. Get the butterfat of store bought milk up around 10-12% and it would taste better, IMHO.

Every study I've seen supports the fact that the enzimes and vitimins are the same after pasturization. Steroids? Are you talking about bovine growth hormone? News Flash: Bovine Growth Hormone is in your raw milk. It is in all cows milk.

I don't know of any cows that produce 10-12% butterfat.......

I did see one of those studies that said that the enzymes and vitamins are the same in both raw and pasteurized. IMO, it was a joke!!! They only tested for a few things........and did not test for any of the enzymes and immunoglogins (right term?) that do get destroyed by pasteurization.

Some of the worst "junk science" I have ever seen was suppposed "science" trying to denigrate the benefits of raw milk. At one conference I confronted a speaker from the Dairy Division of the Ohio Dept. of Ag.......he, with red face, had to admit that some of the things he was stating was based on "junk science," and not real, validated research.

billooo2 · #49 09/29/11, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rita

Sixteen people have died from contaminated cantaloupes. Can you imagine the hullabaloo if one person died from raw milk?!?!?

Can you imagine the FDA doing raids on farms that raise canteloupes????