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Old 08/26/11, 12:34 AM
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My electric fence fries the weeds....
and the grasshoppers lol!!
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Old 08/26/11, 09:10 AM
 
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Salt will do the job that you are looking to do cheaper than anything else. If you put down enough of then NOTHING will grow for several years. Of course it can corrode you wires if it gets on it but then I think that anything that you use for this purpose will.
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Old 08/26/11, 10:08 AM
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This may sound stupid, but how do you apply

the salt? My son used some ice melt salt on our rock beds, didn't do a thing.
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Old 08/26/11, 11:01 AM
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The salt, i.e. sodium chloride, needs to be in solution but I don't know the ratio of salt:water. This method was recommended to me years ago by a weed specialist at work, but I never tried it. Chester's dead now so won't be much help. I do remember he suggested using livestock mixing salt since he knew we had it already.

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Old 08/26/11, 11:27 AM
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I am not going the salt route, but calcium chloride may be more effective than sodium choride for those who want to try it. Just ask anyone who has had a calcium cloride filled tire leak down in a field!
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I do a combination of mowing and chemical treatment. I like to periodically mow a strip along the fence, especially along the inside, with the tractor's belly mower, and I can get under the lowest wire. I do this mowing in addition to chemical treatment.

I used Pramitol 25E, a sterilizer. It is supposed to be permanent but within several months the grass/weeds were back. Maybe it you kept applying it for a few years it might work, but its very expensive. It works thru the root system and needs a little bit of rain to be taken up by the plants.

Lately I have been using generic roundup. I apply 2-3 times a year. It works on contact with the leaves.

I have to agree with rambler above. A strip of dead yellow along the fence line looks terrible. But I do it anyway to help keep the grass off the electric. I have goats.

Would a broadleaf be sufficient to keep growth off the wires? Maybe if your animals like to graze under the fence wire (some horses/cows), but my goats don't do that.
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Plowjockey: The Round-up I'm referring to does indeed have a pre-emergent in it, and costs more than the standard product. Worked for me for 2 years running.
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Plowjockey: The Round-up I'm referring to does indeed have a pre-emergent in it, and costs more than the standard product. Worked for me for 2 years running.
Then it isn't "RoundUp".

The gound up has NO residual effectiveness once it touches the ground. The chemical is quickly deactivated as it chelates with metals in the ground.

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Old 08/28/11, 01:54 PM
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I use Grazon P & D mixed with roundup and Dicamba. works good and last all year..
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Then it isn't "RoundUp".

The gound up has NO residual effectiveness once it touches the ground. The chemical is quickly deactivated as it chelates with metals in the ground.

Jim
this kind of post just irks me. knowledge is good. showing a lack of knowledge is not.

round up is a brand name.
what you are speaking of is Glyphosate, a chemical name.

what ozarks tom was speaking of is a product sold under the round up brand name called "roundup extended control". since it is a roundup product it is roundup.
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this kind of post just irks me. knowledge is good. showing a lack of knowledge is not.

round up is a brand name.
what you are speaking of is Glyphosate, a chemical name.

what ozarks tom was speaking of is a product sold under the round up brand name called "roundup extended control". since it is a roundup product it is roundup.
Well Mr. Know It All did yo notice the QUOTES around the phrase round up?

I am quite aware of the facts around Glyphosate (sold as Round Up, Buccaneer Plus, Cornerstone Plus, etc.)

The fact still remains that Glyphosate has NO residual effectivenss itself regardless of the name of the product.

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Well Mr. Know It All did yo notice the QUOTES around the phrase round up?

I am quite aware of the facts around Glyphosate (sold as Round Up, Buccaneer Plus, Cornerstone Plus, etc.)

The fact still remains that Glyphosate has NO residual effectivenss itself regardless of the name of the product.
true phosphate does not. but the post was on roundup. sorry you feel I'm now it all( far from it .one of the reasons i'm here) simply because I like like for facts to be out there.

instead of silly come backs tell me were I as wrong. as i feel I have done
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Old 08/28/11, 07:34 PM
 
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true phosphate does not. but the post was on roundup. sorry you feel I'm now it all( far from it .one of the reasons i'm here) simply because I like like for facts to be out there.

instead of silly come backs tell me were I as wrong. as i feel I have done
Phosphate? What are you talking about?

Glyphosate does not residual activity. The "Long Acting" forms of Roundup/Glyphosate sold to consumers contains a second chemicl to provide the residual week control.

The confusion foisted on the public with the various RoundUp formulations is confusing.

We in commercial agriculture use various combinations of herbicides to deal with plant pests in our operations. Typically Glyphosate is one of those tools.

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Old 08/28/11, 08:30 PM
 
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Phosphate? What are you talking about?

Glyphosate does not residual activity. The "Long Acting" forms of Roundup/Glyphosate sold to consumers contains a second chemicl to provide the residual week control.

The confusion foisted on the public with the various RoundUp formulations is confusing.

We in commercial agriculture use various combinations of herbicides to deal with plant pests in our operations. Typically Glyphosate is one of those tools.

Jim
sorry for my misspelling please for give me.
I am not opposed to round up use. but round up extended control is is still round up. with that said I will leave this thread
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Old 08/28/11, 08:38 PM
 
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sorry for my misspelling please for give me.
I am not opposed to round up use. but round up extended control is is still round up. with that said I will leave this thread
We are bickering about symantics.

You are correct the product you and I are discussing is a RounUp branded product. It is not only glyphosate though.

The confusion for consumers is the naming and use. Since the product we are discussing has residual weed control the consumer now thinks that "RoundUp" (glyphosate) has residual activity when glyphosate does not have such activity.

Now I need to determine which product we will use on our farm this next crop year for residual grass control in our soybean fields.

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