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Old 08/17/11, 08:34 PM
 
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I've had to shoot more than one dog, including a chicken killer of my own. A .22 with hollow point works well, just place your shots. I stopped shoveling, just throw them in the woods, worms have to eat to.
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Old 08/17/11, 09:43 PM
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I appreciate all of the replies...I really do.

A year ago, they used to let their dogs run at any time day or night. They were informed last year that the dogs would be shot if they threatened anyone while they we on someone else's property.

Here is the problem: Since then, they, for the most part, only let the dogs run while they are outside jacking around. (These people do not work at anything, except to 'play' with their horses (nine horses on one single acre); they have only mowed twice this year.) I think the owners do go in for short periods of time, and they are adamantly defiant that their dogs could not run off their property in those times.

Getting a video is going to be difficult, and getting several deadly shots without the owners knowing is going to be even harder.
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Old 08/17/11, 09:44 PM
 
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German shepard was acting agressive towards a distant relative every time she walked to her mail box in her yard. Neighbor wouldn't do anything about the dog. She called the county sheriff after a couple a days of this, her health is bad and she can't physically fight off a dog. He told her if the dog came towards her again, she was within her rights to defend herself. I live in one state up the coast. I've had to protect my livestock a few times, hated to have to, even begged my neighbors to keep their dogs shut up. I have good stout fences that will hold hogs, but the dogs managed to get in.....they didn't walk out. I moved here in 98,didn't have any problems with wild predators till 2001. I talked with the game warden. He told me that if something was killing my livestock, that I was within my rights to protect them. I had to kill 14 foxes that year. They were even toting off the housecats and my sweet corn much less my poultry.
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Old 08/17/11, 10:14 PM
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As an ultra liberal, environmentalist, treehugging, left-wing, softie. SSS!!!!

My brother and dd were both bitten by this kind of dog. Get rid of them!!
lol, we need a "like" button on here!!
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Old 08/17/11, 11:03 PM
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Dead aggressive dogs don't hurt anyone. I'd definitely avoid going outside WITHOUT a weapon to effectively handle the situation at your earliest opportunity. Bury the carcass out of site, out of mind. You don't have to explain yourself to anyone.
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Old 08/17/11, 11:27 PM
 
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Well one those real good pump up air rifles don't make much noise
A person could build a silencer for a 22 . Know a fellow did that once he shot 22 shorts in it in town .

And yes those air rifles do got the punch
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Old 08/18/11, 12:15 AM
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I appreciate all of the replies...I really do.

A year ago, they used to let their dogs run at any time day or night. They were informed last year that the dogs would be shot if they threatened anyone while they we on someone else's property.

Here is the problem: Since then, they, for the most part, only let the dogs run while they are outside jacking around. (These people do not work at anything, except to 'play' with their horses (nine horses on one single acre); they have only mowed twice this year.) I think the owners do go in for short periods of time, and they are adamantly defiant that their dogs could not run off their property in those times.

Getting a video is going to be difficult, and getting several deadly shots without the owners knowing is going to be even harder.
While I would hate to do it to any animal and haven't, in this case, maybe a heavily poisoned steak is in order.Let it crawl home and die. Let them deal with the problem they have created.
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Old 08/18/11, 01:05 AM
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For those who have advised on which shotgun load to use, thank you.

My old Mossburg shoots a pretty tight pattern.

As for the shooting range, I keep reading "for longer distances, like 50 feet or more consider using"...LOL...if and when it ever happens, it won't be much more than a few paces. The dog is that aggressive, and I am not joking about that.
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Oh, I forgot to add:

I am a little leery of shooting slugs through that barrel. It has a modified choke, which is adjustable.

I've never tried shooting slugs in this gun, and while it might be okay, I am just a little afraid to try it.
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Old 08/18/11, 01:30 AM
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A person could build a silencer for a 22
A person could go to jail for 10 years for that too
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Old 08/18/11, 01:33 AM
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if and when it ever happens, it won't be much more than a few paces
If you prefer the shotgun, use buckshot and aim for the chest area.

Don't use a slug.
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Old 08/18/11, 03:01 AM
 
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For those who have advised on which shotgun load to use, thank you.

My old Mossburg shoots a pretty tight pattern.

As for the shooting range, I keep reading "for longer distances, like 50 feet or more consider using"...LOL...if and when it ever happens, it won't be much more than a few paces. The dog is that aggressive, and I am not joking about that.
you can get by w/ large birdshot then
i have personally witnessed a 80# doe killed w/ #4 birdshot at 40 yards from a modified choke 12 guage.
i met a guy in Amarillo TX that accidentally killed his own dog trying to pepper it while chasing the neighbors horse. the shot 80 YDS #6 birdshot from a 1 guage not sure of the choke.
i also know that yanke coyote doggers shoot running coyote in front of their dogs using #4 buckshot usinf extra full & extra extra full chokes at ranges up to 80 yds
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Old 08/18/11, 10:35 AM
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Oh, I forgot to add:

I am a little leery of shooting slugs through that barrel. It has a modified choke, which is adjustable.

I've never tried shooting slugs in this gun, and while it might be okay, I am just a little afraid to try it.
If it is modern a slug won't hurt a modified. I have fired dozens of them though mine. But a slug is a bit much for a dog.

I keep my shotgun loaded like this, one #4 buckshot, two 00 buckshot and a slug. On the shelf next to it is another #4 buckshot. When something happens I rack the #4 out of the magazine and replace it with the round off the shelf giving me two #4s.

That way if I need more range or power I have the 00 and a slug. When the dogs start raising a ruckus you never know if the problem is going to be a possom, a dog or an armed criminal.
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Old 08/18/11, 11:55 AM
 
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If you don't feel confident, shoot through or just behind the shoulder IF you are to one side of the dog so as to enter both lungs.

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If the dog is facing you shoot between the eyes or in the center of the chest.
If possible though, try to shoot from one side rather than facing
If you look at the picture, shooting behind the shoulder puts you high in the lungs or into the back. This can lead to the dog living to see another day. Happens all of the time with deer hit there. Its best to aim above the elbow. You're going to the lungs and possibly the heart.

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Shoot it, bury it, and say nothing to anyone. Don't even admit to seeing it around.
Ah. The 3 S's. Shoot, Shovel, Shh. Personally I would have talked to the owners at the beginning of the problem. By now the dog would have become fertilizer if the owners didn't take action to secure there dog from becoming aggressive towards others on their own property.
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Old 08/18/11, 02:25 PM
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Ah. The 3 S's. Shoot, Shovel, Shh. Personally I would have talked to the owners at the beginning of the problem..

Obviously you missed post #61
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Old 08/18/11, 02:46 PM
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Clovis,

Please post when the issue is resolved for good. That's what I'm interested in hearing.

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Old 08/18/11, 03:09 PM
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Clovis,

Please post when the issue is resolved for good. That's what I'm interested in hearing.

Chris
My true wish is that all of this ends peacefully, and without problems.

I do NOT want to have to kill a dog. In all honesty, I hate to kill anything.

This is one reason I quit hunting. I realized that I enjoyed being in the woods more than anything, and hunting was just an extension of that. While I am a strong advocate for hunting and hunter's rights, I figure it is best to leave the wild game for others.

I'll be second-guessing myself and judging every moment, second-by-second, if I am ever forced to raise a gun against that dog, but I am sick and tired of be harassed by vicious, lunging dogs that are a danger to our lives and safety while on our property.

Talk about prisoners in your own home. No one can walk to the mailbox, or to the clothesline, or pick up a weedeater on our own homestead without the constant worry about those dogs.

We can never allow our kids to play on the swing hanging from the tree, or allow them to play as children around the stunningly created swing set and gym that my dad built, but only because the neighbors allow their rabid-acting, vicious attack dogs to roam freely, without notice, onto other people's property.

Furthermore, my daughter was within seconds of being mauled. God only knows how close she was, and if my father hadn't been there, she could have been killed.

I simply don't have the money to pay for extensive surgery if she was ever mauled. It would ruin us financially, and she would bear the scares forever. It isn't like the dog owners do either...they refuse to pay the bills for trash collection, or any vet bill, or even their utilities...why on earth would I think that they've paid their homeowner's insurance? Or even pay 1% of a doctor bill that was created by their dogs?

I am praying that this ordeal ends peacefully and without incident.
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Old 08/18/11, 03:49 PM
 
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It's wild game.
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Old 08/18/11, 05:23 PM
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FWIW, our county's animal control division has been notified. Either they or the sheriff will pay them a visit.

They will be inspecting and reviewing the county's animal laws with the dog owners.

I'm certain that the dog owners will deny, deny and deny that their dogs have ever crossed the property line. I fully expect them to even make up some stories that are not even true. Even as all three dogs were 20 feet across the property line, the dog owner stood in her yard and screamed "My dogs have NEVER been on your property!!!!!"

Thank you for all of the replies!!!! Your replies have helped me think through this vicious dog problem, and I am much calmer now.
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Old 08/18/11, 06:17 PM
 
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Get a hot shot...you know one of those electric cattle prods. Works wonders. Or you could get a paintball gun and shoot the dog while it's on your property.
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