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08/17/11, 03:15 PM
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I seriously doubt the neighbors don't know their dogs are a threat.
it's a matter of time before the dog mauls someone, maybe kills a child.
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The dog owners do know that their dogs are a threat, but chose to openly be defiant towards everyone in that neighborhood.
The dog owners stood and screamed at me, while all 3 dogs were on our property, "My dogs haven't been on your yard, and they don't ever come over there."
My father has been cornered by those dogs on our property, especially one of them, while the owners stand and watch. "He isn't doing anything except barking" they yell.
These people literally have fed animals, while their own children went hungry...and no, I am not making this up.
A wise old man told me once "You are going to meet people in this world that are so odd and queer turned that you will never figure them out." I think I finally met those folks.
FWIW, these incidents were addressed last year, and they were informed that their dogs would be shot if it happened again. They kept their dogs fenced for quite some time, but this summer, they feel that it is alright to allow their dogs to run free, anywhere, at any time, and then deny it in an outspoken and angry manner.
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08/17/11, 03:41 PM
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Yes. I love animals but it's people before pets.
They can get another dog... you can't buy another child.
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08/17/11, 03:44 PM
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My dogs haven't been on your yard, and they don't ever come over there."
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That's GOOD, because when you kill the dog, it can't possibly be theirs, and they can't complain
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08/17/11, 04:16 PM
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I agree about keeping your mouth shut. I like the idea of shooting your gun before hand and after to help keep the peace. It seems like their going to try to cause trouble if and when the dog is dead. I'd be innocent as pie. But I would never let it even look at my little girl again. Good luck.
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08/17/11, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by clovis
If I believe that I have NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE and no other recourse to a dog that is seriously threatening the life of a human being, where do I shoot?
Head? Heart? Chest area between the front two legs?
Will a .22 do the trick for this overly aggressive and crazed Labrador?
For those wanting to pounce and attack me, come on over. I'll let you walk the yard unarmed for a few hours, and then we'll see what your opinion is.
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Disposing of the dog would be an appropriate action in my opinion. But keep your mouth shut about it. You didn't see the dog, you don't know what happened to the dog, you didn't do anything to the dog. Triple S as they say.
If you don't have any dogs yourself, you might consider an evening trap for it, that it never escapes from. But, as I said, SSS. Don't tell your child either. Kids have a hard time keeping quiet.
And I wouldn't say another word to them before you take care of the situation. They had a warning, that is all that needs to be done. Prepare a place now to dispose of the beast, keep it hidden and ready. Then first chance, I would dispose of it.
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08/17/11, 04:21 PM
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I don't understand the "take a picture" or "make a video of it being naughty" line of thinking. Why would I waste my time or risk a further incident. Do I have to make sure the lil puppy has his actors card before I film? Do the owners get royalties for any stills?
It's a dog. It's a bad dog. You shoot it and throw it into the holler. Same goes for feral cats. I'm not wasting time on getting a shovel, checking my light meter, or breaking a sweat to dig (that's why I don't harass the buzzards that live around here).
As for what to use, I'm a 12 ga. #6 proponent. Same for the animals I've had to put down.
I'm asking anybody that has dogs that are mean to keep them contained, I don't like the taste I have the rest of the day after putting one down, mine or strangers. I'm at least lucky to have Seamus, the BIG dog daddy on my place. Him and those big bassett hound ears are good for gettin your head right after disagreeable tasks.
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08/17/11, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Micheal
Shoot it, bury it, and say nothing to anyone. Don't even admit to seeing it around.
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This is the right answer.
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08/17/11, 05:09 PM
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Shoot it.
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08/17/11, 05:29 PM
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Dh killed a dog right outside our front door once. He used a .22 with hollow points.
Shoot the dog, shoot it as many times as you can. With a shotgun you might not get a second shot, might not hit it with very many pellets either.
If the neighbors are out there yelling at you when you are shooting it then you'll have a problem.
In some states you cannot be charged with animal cruelty if you injure the dog and it runs off. In most states (in fact every one that I know of) you will be charged if you go hunting for the dog and shoot it after it is safely at home.
Asking cops what the law is will get you whatever answer they feel like giving you. Had one a few weeks ago tell me it wasn't legal for me to fire a gun here. Asked him where he got his mis-info. He didn't know.
As for where to aim on the dog, front part of chest.
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08/17/11, 06:29 PM
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Shoot it, bury it, and say nothing to anyone. Don't even admit to seeing it around.
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Yep .
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08/17/11, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by clovis
I've got one of those too.
Which would be better? A 20 gauge or a .22?
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20 ga, #4 buckshot (not to be confused with #4 game/bird shot.)
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08/17/11, 06:35 PM
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i'd call 911
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08/17/11, 06:39 PM
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As an ultra liberal, environmentalist, treehugging, left-wing, softie. SSS!!!!
My brother and dd were both bitten by this kind of dog. Get rid of them!!
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08/17/11, 06:55 PM
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Well , I see at least 3 people objected to my suggestion . This actually happened in an area I once lived in . Everyone in the area had problems with a certain dog . The owners had about the same attitude as the owners in this thread . I wasn't the one that gut shot the dog but I knew who did & the owner didn't . The dog ran home , the owner had two choices , kill the dog himself or take it to the vet . He took it to the vet & according to neighborhood scuttlebut $1,200 later the dog was fine , however it was never seen running loose again . A lesson well learned I'd say . SSS & these type of people will just get another one . An empty wallet hurts .
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08/17/11, 07:00 PM
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WV Hillbilly, I ain't sayin' nuthin'. If that's the only place you can hit, that's the only place you can hit. I wouldn't recommend doing it on purpose but if the dog is after your child (how many bleeding hearts on here care more about the dog?) you hit what you hit and who gives a whoop.
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08/17/11, 07:40 PM
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The photos and the videotape of the dog trying to kill your child is not for the owner of the dogs..
It is for the cops and the courts if the neighbors turn this into a issue.
I would also make a record of the sheriff refusing to do anything about this.
It never hurts to CYA if you need to.
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08/17/11, 07:58 PM
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i'd call 911
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Yep that is the city thing to do  Where i'm at that dog would have you ate and the rest buried before those nitwits got here
Neighbors dog was coming at me once and as i was reaching for my 44 mag. around the corner comes their kids yelling don't shoot him i think they got the picture .
Go to town get you a fruit tree,srub what ever bush you want dig a nice big hole set bush to the side then refer to Chewie's post
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08/17/11, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mekasmom
Disposing of the dog would be an appropriate action in my opinion. But keep your mouth shut about it. You didn't see the dog, you don't know what happened to the dog, you didn't do anything to the dog. Triple S as they say.
If you don't have any dogs yourself, you might consider an evening trap for it, that it never escapes from. But, as I said, SSS. Don't tell your child either. Kids have a hard time keeping quiet.
And I wouldn't say another word to them before you take care of the situation. They had a warning, that is all that needs to be done. Prepare a place now to dispose of the beast, keep it hidden and ready. Then first chance, I would dispose of it.
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I think that's pretty good advice. The owners of the dog sound like jerks. But you can't fix stupid. They will probably continue to be jerks the rest of their lives. What you can do is eliminate the threat to yourself and yours. And then shut up about it. You don't need to say anything to any of the neighbors, the owners, or the cops. Enough has been said already. If you shoot it, tho, you may need to bury it, or haul it out in the boondocks for the scavengers to feast on.
If gunshot noise worries you, a .22 rifle shot broadside into the ribs will kill the dog. It won't be quick or particularly humane tho. For a quick, humane kill, I would use a 20 or 12 guage shotgun with at least BB size shot, and shoot the dog broadside right behind the shoulder, or in the face if he's threatening you headon, within 20 yards or so.
The advantage of the shotgun over any kind of rifle or pistol is that you won't be firing a long range bullet down thru your neighborhood, possibly hitting something (or someone) you don't want to harm. The shotgun is much safer in a neighborhood environment, and is very deadly at short range, but it makes a lot of noise.
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08/17/11, 08:00 PM
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Oh, the other place you need to think about when aiming at said dog, property line. If the dog is on your property it's fair game. Off your property and it's a crap-shoot.
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08/17/11, 08:28 PM
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I would also make a record of the sheriff refusing to do anything about this.
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They already said they can't do anything unless they see it happening or someone gets bitten.
That's not "refusing " to do anything. it's just the law
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