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08/13/11, 08:30 PM
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Young Cottonmouth that has not been eating well.
For what its worth, I spend a year right out of college doing Herpetological research in the Everglades and saw more of those things than I care to think about.
As someone stated earlier, there are 3 sub-species of cottonmouth, some of which are darker in color phase than others.
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08/13/11, 08:30 PM
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Murphy was an optimist ;)
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Yep, I know exactly what kind of snake that is... hes my very favorite kind!!! a dead one! 
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08/13/11, 08:31 PM
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Now , contrast that with the headless snake , notice how the decreasing diameter of the body is spreadout over a much longer section of the snake
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One is male and one is female.
Females taper off more quickly than males
http://exoticpets.about.com/od/snake...xingsnakes.htm
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Visual Clues
Since the sex organs are held internally, sexing visually is difficult, but there are visible clues. Because of the presence of the hemipenes, these visual clues relate to the shape and lenght of the tail:
•Male: tail thicker and longer than in females, and also tapers less evenly to the tip (thicker for a bit then suddenly thinning).
•Females: tail thinner and shorter than in males, and tapers smoothly, evenly and more quickly.
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Last edited by Bearfootfarm; 08/13/11 at 08:36 PM.
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08/13/11, 08:51 PM
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id agree young cotton mouth that probably hasnt had a good meal in a while. and likley female.
the yellow on the tail tip is the biggest give-away.
like with all living things, while the general pattern and color can be assumed there is alot of variation in shade between sub species and even individual members, juvies also have lighter and slightly different patterns too!
personally i LOVE snakes, natures rodent control, and not even a cat will do a better job...
i respect them, ill kill them only if i have to, venemous snakes that come too close to me or my pets get the chop, otherwise ill let them be or if there big enough to menace the chickens they get bagged and reloacted.
they are amazing and highly beneficial creatures!
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08/13/11, 11:08 PM
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Like others said...young cottonmouth(water moccassin ). I personally like snakes, but me and cottonmouths don't get along. Too aggressive to share an area with kids. I have seen one literally chase a child around a pond bank until it was stopped.
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08/13/11, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Catalytic
When we bought this house a year ago (this month!) I made hubby buy me a revolver (because nothing peeves me off more than a semi-auto jamming) and "snake shot" shells for it. Last night, we finally got to use it, so his head is ummm, obliterated :blush: (This isn't our first snake, but the others were in spots it wasn't safe to shoot them, like the well house, or the chicken coop, but the chickens took care of him lol)
Yes, it has single scales below the vent. The underside of the tip of the tail is yellow, I think I read that as part of a cottonmouth description, too, but his pattern didn't really seem to quite match anything I saw pics of.
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I use a 38 cal revolver with rat shot as a snake gun too! We live by a lake and I use it all the time!
http://www.midwesthuntersoutlet.com/...%2BJDyOLrQE%3D
(You're in SE Alabama? I grew up in Dothan back in the stone age.)
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08/13/11, 11:41 PM
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It doesn't look like the copperheads I grew up with
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There are 2 subspecies, Northern and Southern, and they are differently colored.
There is also a lot of color variations among individuals
The one I posted above is a Northern Copperhead
Here's a Southern Copperhead:
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08/13/11, 11:45 PM
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I live near Dothan :-) and yep, that's the snake shot I was referring to! Works great, obviously lol. I just have a cheapie revolver, hubby wouldn't buy me the pretty pink one, but it does the job, and we have other guns for shooting. I have real bullets for the revolver should I need them. The revolver is the only gun with quick access, it takes at least 10 minutes to dig out the others and unlock them.
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08/13/11, 11:47 PM
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Whatever kind of snake it is, you should have let it grow up big enough to make a good hat band out of it. I never kill the small ones.
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08/13/11, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Prepper
Like others said...young cottonmouth(water moccassin ). I personally like snakes, but me and cottonmouths don't get along. Too aggressive to share an area with kids. I have seen one literally chase a child around a pond bank until it was stopped.
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When I was a kid a cottonmouth chased me and my brother up a hill. Guess it didn't like us playing in the creek where we found it. It was a big one too.
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08/14/11, 01:24 PM
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Had to do a lot of research to find out what the black snake pictured with the copperhead was LOL Luckily the picture taker did explain it was a black rat snake in the same enclosure at the zoo :-)
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08/14/11, 02:05 PM
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They *chase* people?!?!? Makes me happy to live in CA with our "mild" rattlesnakes!
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08/14/11, 07:03 PM
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Cotton mouth for sure. They as most stated will and can look different. If where it can hurt you, hurt it first. Ones that are good, let them go on their merry way, that is unless they scare you and you want to get even. I don't like any of them eating my birds. I will dispatch them if I have a chance if they do. Saw a big timber rattler or velvet tail today that had been run over on the highway close to Braggs. Lot of them in the area, not as many as there were. I turned around and went back to check for rattles, since tail half was off the road. Had rattles, but had lost all but one and button. Left them on him. They do make nice hat bands and rattles for the fiddle.
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