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Kirk, last time I looked yahoo would do the job.

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Hey, not ALL MLM's are bad. Ever heard of Flint River Ranch pet food? They have been around a long time, and they only way they sell their products are through distributors such as my self, in a MLM. The difference is that it is a product people want and you don't have to pay to start up or store the product or anything. There are some people who make a decent amount of money doing it. FRR has a real good name with breeders vets ect.
I have only been selling it for about a month, so I haven't got a real customer base yet. Sold some though. Hardest thing was building a website!

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MLM is tough. You'll spend a lot of money. The only way to really have a stable income or network of salespeople is to forget about recruiting. Know your product, know your market, market your product. Help your customers to be motivated to bring you new customers, with incentives on their purchases, perhaps. Eventually, when you're customers have a few customers in your care, help them to service those customers and earn some extra income themselves. It will build slow this way, but trying to talk someone else into a business opportunity that you are making no profit on yourself is annoying.

That said... I buy over $100 worth of product from a person with a network marketing business, and have been buying and using these products for over 8 years. They are just better than anything else I've found, may seem pricey to some... but not really because the quality is excellent.

I've also been on the business building side, and the company made a lot of money off of me in the way of sales aids that were frequently "updated", required business building materials... which they said should never come out of your pocket, but out of your profits... I spent ALL my profits right back at the company purchasing their tools that "if you don't have this, you aren't ready for success". Sad, too... as i had a nice retail business but was constantly bombarded with the recruiting, conventions, new literature, business building crap. The average person in network marketing recruits 2 people... and I don't know ANYONE who has had success with the first two people they recruited. Retail a great product and it will lead customers to you... don't retail a business opportunity unless you have your own retail success to talk from.

man this post really got some attention. lots of really good ideas. keep'em coming please maybe it'll help others too

Last spring I bought an incubator for my own use, and decided to recoup some of my $ on it and was able to sell day old RIRs for $1.00 a piece, straight run all summer long. Advertising was free on a call in radio station. Do any of you market gardeners have a produce auction near you to use? I keep hearing of one in Versailes (sp?) Missouri that is doing well and some folks are making pretty good money there.

I agree with Amy Jo--MLM can be great if you focus on product and only product. Where people go wrong with it is by constantly hounding their family and friends to where the ONLY family and friends they have are other network marketers. I never minded someone handing me a catalogue for Amway (they had some good products), to let me look at and purchase from at my lesiure, but that is NOT how they want you to sell it. They want you to drag people out to demos, parties, and try to get you into the pyramid. No Thanks. Also, if you live next to someone who does really well at it (any MLM), there are several delivery truck visits daily, and also parties that mean severely curtailed parking for everyone else. No fun for immediate neighbors.

Kirk, another problem with heavy equipment is that just because you live in a rural area doesn't necessarily mean there is no code enforcement, or neighbors that won't like the sound of diesels warming up at 0500 to get to a job by 0800, or that they won't be able to sell their property because of the big rig next door in plain sight (because they won't pay to put in a driveway to park it in back where it wouldn't be seen). Sometimes you have to schmooze with the neighbors depending upon what you want to do, if what you want to do will affect them in some way (noise, visual blight, smell, extra traffic of the foot or vehicle variety, etc.). Not to mention these days people are more concerned about pollution (like leaking fluids and exhaust).

And Chris, make sure you are adequately insured for what you plan to do--you hope problems don't arise, but you don't want have your home insurance cancelled because you didn't tell them about your business.

RAC,
Guess I'm lucky in that my neighbors to the rear (about 900') have never complained about anything since they moved in. If they start talking at I'm out of here, as its a cemetary. To the south of me is township park and the driveway for the cemetary. The park is all thats between me and a pretty decent river, State land on the other side of the river. North of me ( my house sits on the south east corner of my property) is the village limits, currently an 80 acre parcel entirely within the village is planted to christmas trees and abuts my north line. I have about 200' of thirty foot tall pines between me and my north line should they ever develope that 80. Across the street to the east are two houses between the river and the village, They are owned by a father and his son. The son is directly accross from me and has a tree trimming service so he might go out and fire up his truck if I were to fire up mine. In short noise complaints from my neighbors won't be a problem.
Lots of great ideas on this post, thank you Chris for starting it.
Kirk

Leva, in Arizona you are allowed to sell up to 25 cases of 30 dozen eggs a year without doing all the quarterly paperwork and paying no inspection fees. The url is www.ulisse.cas.psu.edu/egglaw.htm.

sorry, try this link--ulisse.cas.psu.edu/egglaw.htm.